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Wll this fiefdom aka Somali+land ever get a DEAD LAND

Postby DamallaXagare » Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:42 am

It suprised me when this emotionally challenged tribe screams for a fiefdom that exists in their own eyes.


To qualify for the necessary conditons of a state recognition, It is imperative that a state applicant furnish legitimate claims or a mission statement for its great mission.



Do Isaaqs occupy enough land? Currently, we have five regions that correspond to this former protectorate.


1-Sanaag, predominantly settled by Warsangeli, a majority with no separatist motive.

2-Awdal, predominantly settled by Gudabirsi and Issa. Their people have split into two main groups, one for pro-secessionist or pro-separatist and the other group for anti-seperatist.


3-Sool--100% anti-secessionist.


4-Togdheer---25% of its populace from Dhulbahante are anti-seperatist, 20% of Isaaq are also anti-separatist, the remaning 50% is still uncertain if they entirely support this seemingly dead dream.


Waqooyi Galbeed--100% secessionist.

Suppose that the United Nation send a fact finding commission to this part. Wouldn't their findings concur with my state beliefs? For Example, UNISOM , in 1994, responded to a number of resolutions which were the outcome of various meetings. They concluded, ""The request, which was ignored by UNOSOM, was clearly aimed at the United Somali Party (USP) that UNOSOM has appointed to be the legitimate representative of the people of the Sool and Sanag regions." (SOMALILAND: INTERPRETING DOCUMENTS FROM CONFERENCES )



Above all, Something very important fails to define what is there?

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Re: Wll this fiefdom aka Somali+land ever get a DEAD LAND

Postby Ceelgabo » Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:54 pm

[quote="DamallaXagare"]It suprised me when this emotionally challenged tribe screams for a fiefdom that exists in their own eyes.


To qualify for the necessary conditons of a state recognition, It is imperative that a state applicant furnish legitimate claims or a mission statement for its great mission.



Do Isaaqs occupy enough land? Currently, we have five regions that correspond to this former protectorate.


1-Sanaag, predominantly settled by Warsangeli, a majority with no separatist motive.

2-Awdal, predominantly settled by Gudabirsi and Issa. Their people have split into two main groups, one for pro-secessionist or pro-separatist and the other group for anti-seperatist.


3-Sool--100% anti-secessionist.


4-Togdheer---25% of its populace from Dhulbahante are anti-seperatist, 20% of Isaaq are also anti-separatist, the remaning 50% is still uncertain if they entirely support this seemingly dead dream.


Waqooyi Galbeed--100% secessionist.

Suppose that the United Nation send a fact finding commission to this part. Wouldn't their findings concur with my state beliefs? For Example, UNISOM , in 1994, responded to a number of resolutions which were the outcome of various meetings. They concluded, ""The request, which was ignored by UNOSOM, was clearly aimed at the United Somali Party (USP) that UNOSOM has appointed to be the legitimate representative of the people of the Sool and Sanag regions." (SOMALILAND: INTERPRETING DOCUMENTS FROM CONFERENCES )



Above all, Something very important fails to define what is there?[/quote]



1-Sanaag, predominantly settled by Warsangeli, a majority with no separatist motive


Wrong, Sanaag is predominantly Habar Yonis and majority of the people with maybe the exception of Dhulbahant support the separate and independent Somaliland. The Warsengali overwhelmingly support Somaliland intention to become independent.

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Postby SoMaLiSiZz » Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:05 pm

May Allah give hadaya to our somalis they think more about lands, qaad ect then the state of our People ==== > so many Somalis dies every day and other Muslims around the globe === > yet their main picture is all about Money, land, Qaad === > and other selfish issues ==========> Allah will not ask us about our Qaabil and we will not get any benefits from it in the here after ==== > please make duca for all the Muslims around the world === > pay much in sadaqah and pray salatul lail ==== > wallahi if you knew only the miracles that comes with these things you all would be up All might Praying for Allah and making supplications Arrow fe Aman Allah

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Postby Mataan_Ciideed » Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:09 pm

Somalisiz

Fadlan, what's your qabiil?.

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Postby SoMaLiSiZz » Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:31 pm

You know only ppl in S’net ask me that question, “what is your Qabil” I don’t know why? momken they wish to put me in some sort of a category ===== > Allahu yaclam === does it really matter if I have a Qabil or not as a Muslim sister? Confused Yalla xasal kheyr Very Happy Arrow

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Postby Mataan_Ciideed » Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:33 pm

Yes!. It matters!. To me!.

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Postby optimist_1 » Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:35 pm

Somalisizz Qabiil??

I can say shes a Unity Supporter,

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Postby SoMaLiSiZz » Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:41 pm

You know I feel my qabil is islam, as it’s the only thing that makes me feel close to home => Arrow

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Postby couldublvd » Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:18 pm

Waryaa dhaan dhaan;

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You know what you remind of??? this chic me and my hawiye boy were tag teamin' one time, me smashing the ceeb, shawty taggin' the ass!!!! sandwitch and all!!!! she was screaming like a lil B-itch just like you!!!! and we were str8t chillin' just pounding Smile kinda like North and South.... and you my dear is straight caught in the middle of it all Confused

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Postby DamallaXagare » Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:31 pm

Ceelgabo, how old are you?



This is what a European man who visited Sanaag (Makhir) said about 150 years ago.



"The Habr Gerhajis, here scattered and cut up, have little power. Their royal family resides near Berberah, but no one as yet wears the turban; and even when investiture takes place, a ruler’s authority will not extend to Makhar. "

None of you has answered my questions. I am being very honest and interest constructive responses.

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Postby Ceelgabo » Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:44 pm

[quote="DamallaXagare"]Ceelgabo, how old are you?



This is what a European man who visited Sanaag (Makhir) said about 150 years ago.



"The Habr Gerhajis, here scattered and cut up, have little power. Their royal family resides near Berberah, but no one as yet wears the turban; and even when investiture takes place, a ruler’s authority will not extend to Makhar. "

None of you has answered my questions. I am being very honest and interest constructive responses.[/quote]




Why do you need to ask me my age when your master, the European who quated could tell you everything you need including my age and the history of Somaliland...

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Postby Pink-Panther » Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:51 pm

I don't get it, why is the issue of somaliland so important? There are more pressing issues to deal with like all those poor orphaned somali children! Please don't give me that "I'm a somali nationalist" bull, being a nationalist means wanting the best for your people and if that means supporting somaliland THEN THATS WHAT YOU SHOULD DO. Being a nationalist doesn't meaning waiting around for some fairytale union regardless of the consequences. Being a nationalist doesn't mean waiting around and watching as our country and people decay..We are adults here and as an adult you should know that everything isn't pink and rosey, there isn't a happy ending to every story.If somaliland is building hospitals,taking care of the widowed+orphaned, and educating the young minds of tomorrow..I don't see why you won't support them,atleast in concept. I am afraid that qabiil is clouding your judgment, I could careless if somaliland was made for and by isaaqs, they are lightyears ahead of most somalis. If it were up to me I would divide somalia into as many states as possible if it meant that it would end the wars and poverty back in the motherland.

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Postby DamallaXagare » Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:52 pm

That was just a quote to give you a hint of where Makhir aka Sanaag locates and who settles there. Since I am from there, a third person should be included to clear any delusional info that may be passed on to you by house members.

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Postby DamallaXagare » Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:16 pm

[quote="Pink-Panther"]I don't get it, why is the issue of somaliland so important? There are more pressing issues to deal with .[/quote]


This post is a mere picture of the reality like the importance of exposing the evils of countless fiefdoms in Mogadisho and their respective runners. But in the North West, the picture of how this ongoing election appears as though it is intended to suffocate the political position of the majority of people and their decisional roles in expressing their views. Several press media, mainly from SA and an associated press have given an interest in covering what is going up there from the comforts of their media center.

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Postby QansaGabeyle » Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:14 pm

Jesus will be resurrected before somaliland gets recognition.


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