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letscookbreakfast, do you consider me an atheist?

Yes or no?

Don't hide.

Brother Abuukar, have you seen this guy? May Allah (swt) protect us from the trolls and the atheists on this site, especially during this blessed month. Amiin.

I can't believe I missed this.

Don't hide behind semantics, you coward.

Are you implying that I'm an atheist?

I have told you what I think of you. You are promoting nifaq and shirk. Out of jahiliyyah at best (excusable) and with an ulterior motive at worst (inexcusable). I will NOT retract this and I have proven it by quoting you.

Despite this I have not called you, as an individual, a non-Muslim, because I cannot tell which of the two it is online.

Despite this, you call me an atheist? Based on what?

First of all, I said trolls AND atheists. Two completely different things. As you can see, the word "and" separates the two groups.

Secondly, how am I promoting those things?

Third, why would you call me a non-Muslim?

and lastly, why are you trolling? Even during Ramadan, you don't respect the deen, you don't treat others with kindness. If you had anything against me, you would behave like a proper Muslim, and tell them to me nicely. But no, you are trolling and I leave your judgement to Allah (swt). Like you, I don't scrutinize others, for that is not the way of a Muslim.

Despite this I have not called you, as an individual, a non-Muslim, because I cannot tell which of the two it is online.

Third, why would you call me a non-Muslim?

O liar, I think who is the troll, and who is upon the 'haqq' (so to speak) is clear to all.

You are playing a dangerous game.

And you won't answer the question. Just as I thought.

^ One who states himself to be upon Haqq or taqwa surely has ego, which is a great disease in the heart.

You made this thread to try to embarrass a servant of Allah and it backfired spectacularly.

That alone says a lot.

Despite this I have not called you, as an individual, a non-Muslim, because I cannot tell which of the two it is online.

Third, why would you call me a non-Muslim?

O liar, I think who is the troll, and who is upon the 'haqq' (so to speak) is clear to all.

You are playing a dangerous game.

And you won't answer the question. Just as I thought.

I wasn't accusing me of calling me non-Muslim. I was asking, "why would you even think of calling me non-Muslim." As you said, I still had some sense of Islam still.

What's wrong with you man?

Abuukarsubeer I would appreciate it if you stopped trying to interject.

I am not responding to you purposely. You know the reason for this.

I wasn't accusing me of calling me non-Muslim. I was asking, "why would you even think of calling me non-Muslim." As you said, I still had some sense of Islam still.

What's wrong with you man?

This conversation has reached a natural end and I do not wish to continue it. You are drawing me into fitna.

Readers can draw whatever conclusion they choose.

Peace be unto you, and walahi, despite your wrongdoing I mean that.

Abuukarsubeer I would appreciate it if you stopped trying to interject.

I am not responding to you purposely. You know the reason for this.

I am just stating that to have alot of arrogance and ego is not healthy for one's Iman.

I wasn't accusing me of calling me non-Muslim. I was asking, "why would you even think of calling me non-Muslim." As you said, I still had some sense of Islam still.

What's wrong with you man?

This conversation has reached a natural end and I do not wish to continue it. You are drawing me into fitna.

Readers can draw whatever conclusion they choose.

Peace be unto you, and walahi, despite your wrongdoing I mean that.

You already drew fitna upon yourself. I engage in a debate like a logical, Muslim man. You decided to attack me and troll in both threads. If you want to leave the tread, you can, bye. It wasn't meant solely for you anyways, just people of your type.

Why are you so confrontational and patronizing? Behave the way the sunnah tells us to behave.

So why did you put my name in it?

And you dare talk about confrontational and patronizing?

This is like the other thread where you insulted my (supposed lack of) 'ilm while blatantly claiming statements to be Hadith that weren't...

Question for you: Are you trying to master nifaq or is all of this accidental? Are you actually unaware of what you do/say?

lol the Shaytaan is very strong indeed.

Insha'allah this will be my last post. If not, may Allah forgive me for anything wrong I say.

I made a mistake, mistakes happen brother. Why are you confrontational? I'm being kind to you and responding respectfully. I guess I'm just behaving in the way of the Sunnah. I'll gladly continue to do so.

Narrated 'Abdullah bin Mulaika: 'Aisha said that the Jews came to the Prophet and said, "As-Samu 'Alaikum" (death be on you). 'Aisha said (to them), "(Death) be on you, and may Allah curse you and shower His wrath upon you!" The Prophet said, "Be calm, O 'Aisha ! You should be kind and lenient, and beware of harshness and Fuhsh (i.e. bad words)." She said (to the Prophet), "Haven't you heard what they (Jews) have said?" He said, "Haven't you heard what I have said (to them)? I said the same to them, and my invocation against them will be accepted while theirs against me will be rejected (by Allah). "

(Book #73, Hadith #57)

You need to take the Propet Muhammad (saw)'s advice.

I made a mistake, mistakes happen brother. Why are you confrontational? I'm being kind to you and responding respectfully. I guess I'm just behaving in the way of the Sunnah. I'll gladly continue to do so.

Narrated 'Abdullah bin Mulaika: 'Aisha said that the Jews came to the Prophet and said, "As-Samu 'Alaikum" (death be on you). 'Aisha said (to them), "(Death) be on you, and may Allah curse you and shower His wrath upon you!" The Prophet said, "Be calm, O 'Aisha ! You should be kind and lenient, and beware of harshness and Fuhsh (i.e. bad words)." She said (to the Prophet), "Haven't you heard what they (Jews) have said?" He said, "Haven't you heard what I have said (to them)? I said the same to them, and my invocation against them will be accepted while theirs against me will be rejected (by Allah). "

(Book #73, Hadith #57)

You need to take the Propet Muhammad (saw)'s advice.

You are right.

Walahi I am sorry for any mistakes I have made towards you or if you feel I have wronged you. It is my responsibility to apologize, not for myself or for you, but for the sake of Allah.

Please do not call me a troll or anything of that ilk no matter how benign you may believe it to be because in my eyes trolling in regards to deen is no different to kufr.

Thus is feels (TO ME) like a euphemism for takfeer.

This upset me and led me to speak negatively.

Edit: Peace be unto you and jzk. I knew my instinct was right when I believed you to be sincere in my first post towards you in that other thread.

I made a mistake, mistakes happen brother. Why are you confrontational? I'm being kind to you and responding respectfully. I guess I'm just behaving in the way of the Sunnah. I'll gladly continue to do so.

Narrated 'Abdullah bin Mulaika: 'Aisha said that the Jews came to the Prophet and said, "As-Samu 'Alaikum" (death be on you). 'Aisha said (to them), "(Death) be on you, and may Allah curse you and shower His wrath upon you!" The Prophet said, "Be calm, O 'Aisha ! You should be kind and lenient, and beware of harshness and Fuhsh (i.e. bad words)." She said (to the Prophet), "Haven't you heard what they (Jews) have said?" He said, "Haven't you heard what I have said (to them)? I said the same to them, and my invocation against them will be accepted while theirs against me will be rejected (by Allah). "

(Book #73, Hadith #57)

You need to take the Propet Muhammad (saw)'s advice.

You are right.

Walahi I am sorry for any mistakes I have made towards you or if you feel I have wronged you. It is my responsibility to apologize, not for myself or for you, but for the sake of Allah.

Please do not call me a troll or anything of that ilk no matter how benign you may believe it to be because in my eyes trolling in regards to deen is no different to kufr.

Thus is feels (TO ME) like a euphemism for takfeer.

This upset me and led me to speak negatively.

I accept your apology, if it's genuine.