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Ex-Somali Colonel Told to Pay $15M

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Ex-Somali Colonel Told to Pay $15M

Postby GeoSeven » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:06 pm

A former Somali military colonel who left the United States while facing civil allegations that he tortured a human rights advocate was ordered by a federal judge on Tuesday to pay $15 million in damages.
Federal Judge Mark Abel awarded the compensation to Abukar Hassan Ahmed, who in a 2010 lawsuit said he endured months of torture in the 1980s during interrogations in Somalia. A judge had previously ruled that the former colonel, Abdi Aden Magan, was responsible for the torture.

Ahmed filed the lawsuit in April 2010, stating that Magan oversaw his detention and torture in Somalia in 1988. Ahmed said that three months of torture he endured make it painful for him to sit and injured his bladder to the point that he is incontinent.

Ahmed said the torture occurred when Magan served as investigations chief of the National Security Service of Somalia, a force dubbed the Black SS or the Gestapo of Somalia because of its harsh techniques used to gain confessions from detainees.

One of Ahmed's lawyers, Christina Hioureas, on Tuesday said the judge's ruling sends a message that the United States will not be a "safe harbor for those who commit human rights abuses." She said that properties owned by Magan could be seized to cover the $15 million.

Ahmed was a professor at the Somalia International University and a lawyer defending political dissidents when he was imprisoned and tortured. Ahmed in 2010 found out Magan was living in the United States through a Google search.
Magan lived for years in Ohio. He initially fought the lawsuit, brought by the San Francisco-based Center for Justice and Accountability, but stopped participating last year and now lives in Kenya. Court documents list Magan as representing himself. An email requesting comment sent Tuesday to the address listed for Magan on the court docket was undeliverable.

Magan had argued that the lawsuit was filed in the wrong country and too long after when Ahmed says the abuse happened. He also had said he faced his own ordeal in Somalia and fled after falling out of favor with the government.

In a 2011 court filing, the U.S. Department of State said Magan shouldn't be allowed to claim immunity. A legal adviser for the department, Harold Hongju Koh, wrote that Magan had been a resident of the U.S. since 2000.

Koh said that, "taking into account the relevant principles of customary international law, and considering the overall impact of this matter on the foreign policy of the United States, the Department of State has determined that Defendant Magan does not enjoy immunity from the jurisdiction of U.S. courts."

Ahmed is now legal adviser to the president of Somalia and divides his time between London and Somalia's capital, Mogadishu.

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So how does this work? If the man who was told to pay up doesn't have $15m worth of assets in the US (which I doubt he does), what's going to happen?

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Re: Ex-Somali Colonel Told to Pay $15M

Postby grandpakhalif » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:08 pm

Leave my uncle alone :down: Stinking midgan

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Re: Ex-Somali Colonel Told to Pay $15M

Postby GeoSeven » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:11 pm

Did your uncle torture him?

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Re: Ex-Somali Colonel Told to Pay $15M

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:11 pm

HAG has hired this guy ? Hassan Alasow Garguurte needs to GO !

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Re: Ex-Somali Colonel Told to Pay $15M

Postby Based » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:13 pm

Black SS, Gestapo of Somalia

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Re: Ex-Somali Colonel Told to Pay $15M

Postby grandpakhalif » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:13 pm

Did your uncle torture him?
Hes my sub sub sub sub clan, he works for SFG, he was an ex-Colonel under MSB and this guy is bringing allegations against him.

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Re: Ex-Somali Colonel Told to Pay $15M

Postby BlackRain » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:13 pm

This guy will never see a penny if Samatar hides his income from the government. :D

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Re: Ex-Somali Colonel Told to Pay $15M

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:14 pm

Geoseven,

This will help my friend whose father was seized by the Kofi Gaduud and the officer who took her father away in Mid December 1990 resides in the USA. I will forward this article to her and she can take him to court.

Its a great day but leave it to Hassan Alasow Garguurte to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

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Re: Ex-Somali Colonel Told to Pay $15M

Postby GeoSeven » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:21 pm

This guy will never see a penny if Samatar hides his income from the government. :D
This is not the Samatar case, it's another one.
Geoseven,

This will help my friend whose father was seized by the Kofi Gaduud and the officer who took her father away in Mid December 1990 resides in the USA. I will forward this article to her and she can take him to court.

Its a great day but leave it to Hassan Alasow Garguurte to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Abdiwahab, I the victim is the one who works for the the Somali government not the accused. Will your friend file a lawsuit? If this case is won by the victim, it might lead to scores of lawsuits being filed because some people are still enraged by things that have been done.

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Re: Ex-Somali Colonel Told to Pay $15M

Postby hydrogen » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:26 pm

They're definitely right about the Ex-Somali part :up:

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Re: Ex-Somali Colonel Told to Pay $15M

Postby Marques » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:35 pm

They're definitely right about the Ex-Somali part :up:
I dont even wanna sound hype but you got a point there. Guy could pass for Gary Colemans older brother..

Tense case, any more info on the Colonel OP?

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Re: Ex-Somali Colonel Told to Pay $15M

Postby GeoSeven » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:39 pm

^ Other than what the article states, no clue. Unless he returns from Kenya and appeals, he will be the most broke Somali in the states.

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Re: Ex-Somali Colonel Told to Pay $15M

Postby Titanium » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:47 pm

It's a symbolic ruling. He won't pay a dime.

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Re: Ex-Somali Colonel Told to Pay $15M

Postby GeoSeven » Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:14 pm

It's a symbolic ruling. He won't pay a dime.
I'm not a sage of law or legal matters but that doesn't make sense. Unless he appeals the case, doesn't a court telling him to pay up mean....pay up?

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Re: Ex-Somali Colonel Told to Pay $15M

Postby S-D-M » Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:34 pm

This guy will never see a penny if Samatar hides his income from the government. :D
Sorry, but this dude is retarded........war mandhow can you read :stylin:


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