FSA/CIA/MOSSAD desecrate shrine of Cammar ibnu Yassir

[Hyperactive]

zubair, you dont understand at all and let us blame our enemies for all our failures! yeah we should expect to care about us, more we should care our selves! we already know the out side enemy but worse are ourselves.


and that represent, likes of you and ahlulbey solder.

[ZubeirAwal]

The enemy is within Islam, pro-Zionist nations like Saudi and Qatar who's rulers turned away from Islam for money are to blame, how are the kuffar protected but a muslim sleeps when 100's of muslims are being killed everyday.

[Hyperactive]

yeah, then start with those you mentioned them, or iska amus, instead crying about qaboroyin..

[hargaysaay]

I cant tell why some one Nice and Generous enough to go all the way to Somalia and give knowledge to young kids , will grow cynical enough
to line behind CIA/MOSAD knowing full well that as we speak they have got all kinds of wire taping up in his ass .
Grant-unlike most Americans you are a frequent traveler you saw the world so you cant throw the ' My Media misinformed me " argument . tell us
why you seem to be inline with the policies of your government .

[Grant]

I don't think I am being at all cynical. You don't make omelets without breaking eggs. The wiretapping has been excessive, but is now under scrutiny. That's the beauty of checks and balances, and says something about what a whistle blower can do in a democracy. ( Chelsea Manning will now get to spend 8 plus years in an all-male institution. Ain't that a crock.) There is also the issue of foreign powers hacking US computers and systems. The US is not the only player in the intelligence game. China and Iran have both been caught with their hands in the till.

In general, I have agreed with the foreign policy and methods of the Obama Administration. Obama has been responsibly digging the US out of the quagmire the last Bush Administration got us into. In the case of Assad and the gas attack, this is not the first but at least the third gas attack this year in which his regime has been implicated. The circumstantial evidence, at least, is overwhelming.

Clearly, the Mossad and CIA were not responsible for blowing up the shrine. I don't know that that is an official government position, but I do line up behind it.

[LetsCookBreakfast]

Allahu Akbar!! All shrines above graves should be destroyed.

May Allah be with the mujahideen.

[ZubeirAwal]

Even the prophet's shrine? Choose your next words carefully.

[LetsCookBreakfast]

Do you think Rasulallah (saw) would be pleased with a shrine over his grave??

[hargaysaay]

I don't think I am being at all cynical. You don't make omelets without breaking eggs. The wiretapping has been excessive, but is now under scrutiny. That's the beauty of checks and balances, and says something about what a whistle blower can do in a democracy. ( Chelsea Manning will now get to spend 8 plus years in an all-male institution. Ain't that a crock.) There is also the issue of foreign powers hacking US computers and systems. The US is not the only player in the intelligence game. China and Iran have both been caught with their hands in the till.

In general, I have agreed with the foreign policy and methods of the Obama Administration. Obama has been responsibly digging the US out of the quagmire the last Bush Administration got us into. In the case of Assad and the gas attack, this is not the first but at least the third gas attack this year in which his regime has been implicated. The circumstantial evidence, at least, is overwhelming.

Clearly, the Mossad and CIA were not responsible for blowing up the shrine. I don't know that that is an official government position, but I do line up behind it.

Bradley Manning will be spending the next 25 years in a prison , what a way to make an example of some one whose only guilt is bringing to light
Vital information the public constitutionally deserve to know , since its tax payers money being used here .

foreign powers will hack your computer system as long as you keep hacking them , every action incites a reaction , simple .

About the chemical weapons , yes there are visual evidences enough to indicate it has been used , but so far no single agency has come up with a satisfactory
evidence to ascribe it to Assad , all what we hearing is war drum beating just like the run up to Iraq Invasion . speaking of Iraq and how your government
Blatantly lied to the whole world , dont we at least have the right to be skeptical about all this Fiasco .

And finally , yeah Obama has been doing an excellent job in reversing Bushs wrong doing by intensifying and increasing the use of Drones 3x .
killing innocent mothers and children in the process .
You are an elder and for that you got my respect , but I cant fathom why you cant figure out that the US foreign policy whether under Rebloodlicans or a Democrips
is one and the same , two faces on one coin .

[ZubeirAwal]

The chamber that holds his body was built during the khulifah rashidun era, and soon after Abu Bakr (RA) and Umar (RA) were buried there too.

Why do you go on about shirk and graves when the prophet said "I do not fear nor am I afraid for you (ummah) to commit shirk when I die, rather I am afraid you'll divide". No one worships people in graves, they honour the righteous chosen men who fought and was with the beloved of Allah, the early muslim rulers who by far are better than the jokes we have today left the qabr as they were, today instead of tackling riba, lack of a islamic centralized government, were more concerned about how big our beards should be, and RPG a companions tomb when you see one. Dark days lay ahead in sham.

[Grant]

Hargaysaay,

Chelsea Manning will come up for parole in 8 years. She seems to have had this fairly well planned. Being the only lady in an all male institution must have it's appeal.

I'm not convinced that Bush lied. The WMD may have been wishful thinking, or it could also have been simple ignorance combined with overly amplified fear. Our intelligence services performed horribly. The bottom line is that he, and the US, made a colossal mistake.

Foreign policy tends to be consistent between the parties because it is based on "national interests" that don't change a lot. That's true. The parties differ more on methods and domestic policy.

These days everybody has drones. Ours have been effective in knocking down the alQaida leadership in areas we could not otherwise reach. One of my nephews trains operators, so I know they try very hard to avoid collateral damage. I am proud, not apologetic. They get the job done with a minimal footprint. As an American, I have not forgotten 9/11.

Your skepticism is healthy. I have no problem with it. Just realize that "interests" do differ.

[hargaysaay]

Hargaysaay,

Chelsea Manning will come up for parole in 8 years. She seems to have had this fairly well planned. Being the only lady in an all male institution must have it's appeal.

I'm not convinced that Bush lied. The WMD may have been wishful thinking, or it could also have been simple ignorance combined with overly amplified fear. Our intelligence services performed horribly. The bottom line is that he, and the US, made a colossal mistake.

Foreign policy tends to be consistent between the parties because it is based on "national interests" that don't change a lot. That's true. The parties differ more on methods and domestic policy.

These days everybody has drones. Ours have been effective in knocking down the alQaida leadership in areas we could not otherwise reach. One of my nephews trains operators, so I know they try very hard to avoid collateral damage. I am proud, not apologetic. They get the job done with a minimal footprint. As an American, I have not forgotten 9/11.

Your skepticism is healthy. I have no problem with it. Just realize that "interests" do differ.

Yeah we aint convinced he lied time and again are we . WMDs..wishful thinking, simple ignorance..What! are you kidding me here Grant , there is no way
You can convince a politically aware sane human being that it was all just one big Mistake . just for the sake of argument lets say it was , OK then where
Is the apology , don't you think the Iraqi people who lost more than a Million deserve an apology since they have gone through all that Carnage as a result
Of your invasion , unless your down with the God bless America and no place else mentality .

The fact of the matter is Iraq was in Bushs and the rest of the Neocon Gangs mind the day they were inaugurated to the oval office , Saddam had gone rogue
He refused to be a puppet and give all that oil riches to the mega petroleum companies of the west . 9-11 was a gift from God for them
All the plans they had in their wet dreams were their for implementing , be it the hoax and baseless war on terror , be it The PATRIOT act and most
Importantly going in Iraq , taking out Saddam and steal their wealth in the process .

I have no business what your interests are so long as they don't kill innocent Muslims and call it a minor Collateral Damage .