Re: Intelligence Experts Decry Weak Case For Syria Strike
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:55 pm
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Re: Intelligence Experts Decry Weak Case For Syria Strike
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:47 pm
Gurey is spot on , I agree with him . the Gulf nations specifically Saudi Arabia got so desperate here and handed a chemical Agent to Ignorant , Incompetent
Rebels . if an article I saw here the other day is true , then that's the case .
Gurey , I think as you pointed out Obama and his Administration had no idea of what happened on 21 August . Time and Again the Gulf Nations and Turkey urged
The West to help the Rebels effectively by sending lethal weapons as if the ones they already have aint lethal enough . so it was a deadly cruel trick to have
the world community ( Us and EU ) intervene the conflict . hammering the region and giving effective more deadlier weapons to the Rebels in the process .
Today not only Gulf leaders and Rebel commanders are Frustrated over Obama's decision to put the issue before Congress , even France is shocked .
These Frenches are getting wackier by the day . what is up with them , they seem to want this even more than Obama's Administration . They cant pull a Mali on
Syria though . all they can do is be Americas sidekick in these "surgical strikes " , morons .
Gurey- This was the Boldest and most dangerous move The Anti Assad Camp pulled off so far . if Assad survives this and strikes are called off , what do you predict .
I think the ensuing Fights between Assad and the Rebels will be so ferocious they will decide whos gonna come of on top in this Conflict .
God be with Syria .
Rebels . if an article I saw here the other day is true , then that's the case .
Gurey , I think as you pointed out Obama and his Administration had no idea of what happened on 21 August . Time and Again the Gulf Nations and Turkey urged
The West to help the Rebels effectively by sending lethal weapons as if the ones they already have aint lethal enough . so it was a deadly cruel trick to have
the world community ( Us and EU ) intervene the conflict . hammering the region and giving effective more deadlier weapons to the Rebels in the process .
Today not only Gulf leaders and Rebel commanders are Frustrated over Obama's decision to put the issue before Congress , even France is shocked .
These Frenches are getting wackier by the day . what is up with them , they seem to want this even more than Obama's Administration . They cant pull a Mali on
Syria though . all they can do is be Americas sidekick in these "surgical strikes " , morons .
Gurey- This was the Boldest and most dangerous move The Anti Assad Camp pulled off so far . if Assad survives this and strikes are called off , what do you predict .
I think the ensuing Fights between Assad and the Rebels will be so ferocious they will decide whos gonna come of on top in this Conflict .
God be with Syria .
Re: Intelligence Experts Decry Weak Case For Syria Strike
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:56 pm
Obombya is a fraud he wants to attack Syria with "limited strikes" but he will only drone mujahiden this is his plot but Allah plots and Allah is the greatest of plotters.
Re: Intelligence Experts Decry Weak Case For Syria Strike
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:57 pm
Assad has manpower issues, most of his sunni soldiers are going awol, but they are not joining the FSA.
The majority are going home to their families and becoming refugees.
Both the FSA and the Assad regime have manpower issues this is why external actors are important jihadist volunteers supplied by the Saudis
and hezbollah and Iranian volunteers providing technical aide to the other side.
Its a crawling slow moving war, and the assad regime has slowed down its recent advances to consolidate,
they will advance again soon.
I predict that this will be another lebanon with the war dragging on for years, and becoming more sectarian.
The majority are going home to their families and becoming refugees.
Both the FSA and the Assad regime have manpower issues this is why external actors are important jihadist volunteers supplied by the Saudis
and hezbollah and Iranian volunteers providing technical aide to the other side.
Its a crawling slow moving war, and the assad regime has slowed down its recent advances to consolidate,
they will advance again soon.
I predict that this will be another lebanon with the war dragging on for years, and becoming more sectarian.
Re: Intelligence Experts Decry Weak Case For Syria Strike
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:01 pm
obamba is scared rebels would win thats why he wants to neutralize the situation by bombing assad's heavy weapon arsenal, when regime change does eventually occur he wants to minimize israel's risk to attack
Re: Intelligence Experts Decry Weak Case For Syria Strike
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:06 pm
The truth is that chicken Obama did Israel a huge favor. Sad truth is that Israel can't go to war now. Because it doesn't have money for war.
Recent history shows that a small conflict with a Palestinian organization of four wackos with a vespa and a donkey costs Israel about 5-10 billion NIS per round, not including land invasion. If the organization has two vespas (one with a cart) it might cost 15 billion NIS. And that's from the guys who shoot qassam they made in Fatma's house in Chan Yunes.
How much will it cost to stop a bunch of scuds into Tel Aviv and Haifa? Or to recover from it?
How much will it cost to send Israel's finest men on their jets, their defense and their fuel to tour around Damascus and Hums and Haleb?
How much will it cost to mobilize two tank divisions to the Golan and the Lebanese border?
How much will it cost to draft three ogdot miluiim?
How much will one day of miluiim by Avi Benayahu cost?
I mean the latest farce of the gas mask costs Israel three billion NIS (for like the 5th time).
Tachles Israel started the year with minus 40 billion NIS created by this PM. Who is going to stop him if he decides he wants to react powerfully and drop another 30 billion NIS on the bar mizva party of this term?
And how is he going to finance it? The Americans will bring in money? The Europeans will suddenly feel generous? The IMF will give few billions? Not really.
Think more like VAT 20%. Think about 3% more income tax. Think 5-6 more shekels for every box of cigarette and beer bottle. Think about completely cancelling child support, 2% more of Bituah Leumi. Think about three extra percents for Mas Rechisha for buying a first house. Think of cuts in social service, education, health, less and less municipal and governmental services, and more taxes on expensive fuel, expensive gas, expensive electricity and expensive water ... till the next war.
State of Israel might be able to win wars (though we haven't seen much evidence for it lately) but Israeli citizens will lose whether the military wins or not.
So this chicken shit Obama might turn out to as the guy who saved Israel from one financial adventure too many.
Recent history shows that a small conflict with a Palestinian organization of four wackos with a vespa and a donkey costs Israel about 5-10 billion NIS per round, not including land invasion. If the organization has two vespas (one with a cart) it might cost 15 billion NIS. And that's from the guys who shoot qassam they made in Fatma's house in Chan Yunes.
How much will it cost to stop a bunch of scuds into Tel Aviv and Haifa? Or to recover from it?
How much will it cost to send Israel's finest men on their jets, their defense and their fuel to tour around Damascus and Hums and Haleb?
How much will it cost to mobilize two tank divisions to the Golan and the Lebanese border?
How much will it cost to draft three ogdot miluiim?
How much will one day of miluiim by Avi Benayahu cost?
I mean the latest farce of the gas mask costs Israel three billion NIS (for like the 5th time).
Tachles Israel started the year with minus 40 billion NIS created by this PM. Who is going to stop him if he decides he wants to react powerfully and drop another 30 billion NIS on the bar mizva party of this term?
And how is he going to finance it? The Americans will bring in money? The Europeans will suddenly feel generous? The IMF will give few billions? Not really.
Think more like VAT 20%. Think about 3% more income tax. Think 5-6 more shekels for every box of cigarette and beer bottle. Think about completely cancelling child support, 2% more of Bituah Leumi. Think about three extra percents for Mas Rechisha for buying a first house. Think of cuts in social service, education, health, less and less municipal and governmental services, and more taxes on expensive fuel, expensive gas, expensive electricity and expensive water ... till the next war.
State of Israel might be able to win wars (though we haven't seen much evidence for it lately) but Israeli citizens will lose whether the military wins or not.
So this chicken shit Obama might turn out to as the guy who saved Israel from one financial adventure too many.
Re: Intelligence Experts Decry Weak Case For Syria Strike
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:04 pm
Gurey- you said the regime is gonna press advances again , take grounds or retake strategic places . do you think that that momentum will be short lived .
The only way I see Syria disintegrating into another Lebanon is If Bashar and his System loses grip and rebels Sweeping through all Major cities corner him .
Some say if it gets to that point and even Damascus is under intense attack and at stake , Bashar might fall back to his Ancestral land of the Alawites and
Establish an independent state in the Coastal Areas .
Yohaness- you seem to have awful lot of insight on Israels Decision making at this time on Syria . but buddy everyone knows as far as Israel can go in
In engaging this Militarily is push The US to get involved . they are not dumb enough to initiate attack against Syria unilaterally .
The only way I see Syria disintegrating into another Lebanon is If Bashar and his System loses grip and rebels Sweeping through all Major cities corner him .
Some say if it gets to that point and even Damascus is under intense attack and at stake , Bashar might fall back to his Ancestral land of the Alawites and
Establish an independent state in the Coastal Areas .
Yohaness- you seem to have awful lot of insight on Israels Decision making at this time on Syria . but buddy everyone knows as far as Israel can go in
In engaging this Militarily is push The US to get involved . they are not dumb enough to initiate attack against Syria unilaterally .
Re: Intelligence Experts Decry Weak Case For Syria Strike
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:36 pm
hargaysaay, Israel does not want or need to go to war. Israel wants peace but its neighbors are a bunch of crazies who constantly try to start war. In every war over the last few decades amongst Arabs, the losing side tries to drag Israel in by randomly attacking, even though it's not involved. Remember Saddam during the first gulf war when he occupied Kuwait and lobbed scuds at Israel?
Syrian rebels have tried to start shit by firing at the Golan several times in the past 3 years. The leader of Hezbollah with the effeminate lisp Nasrallah has recently threatened to attack Israel if America bombs Syria. So you see, these crazy neighbors Israel is unfortunate enough to have are the ones trying to drag it into war. They will use any excuse, like an American attack, to go after Israel.
ain malachasot
Syrian rebels have tried to start shit by firing at the Golan several times in the past 3 years. The leader of Hezbollah with the effeminate lisp Nasrallah has recently threatened to attack Israel if America bombs Syria. So you see, these crazy neighbors Israel is unfortunate enough to have are the ones trying to drag it into war. They will use any excuse, like an American attack, to go after Israel.
ain malachasot