Re: Why do our youth go back to somalia
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:53 pm
"Why don't they leave Islam and buy a seat in Hell" is pretty much what you're asking them. C'mon bro.
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Re: Why do our youth go back to somalia
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:56 pm
These terrorists have a monopoly on Jannah smh
Re: Why do our youth go back to somalia
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:58 pm
Who can blame them? One group says "you're going to hell" and the other says the same.
In the end, everyone's evil and in it for the money.
Get yours
In the end, everyone's evil and in it for the money.
Get yours
Re: Why do our youth go back to somalia
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:05 pm
One is fighting for La ilaha illa lah to reign supreme in the land while the other follows man made French invented concept of nationhood, if the Prophet SAW was alive today I'm sure which side he'd approve of.Grandpa, is it haram to defend your people? To set up a stable state? To protect them from those that wish to kill them, take their wealth, and bomb them? You misunderstand what it means to be in an army.
Also, anyone who claimed to be muslim and was fighting for tribal reasons was clearly in the wrong during the Prophet's scw time. How can you fight for that when the prophet of God scw is there clearly telling you what the fighting is for, who their enemy is, and why they are their enemy. Also, look at when Ali/Muawiya fought ra, were they fighting to estabilish Islam, because they thought the other was kuffar, or because they each thought they had a legitimate worldly reason for it?
Therefore, Grandpa, I do ask you, is there no legitimate reason to be in an Army?
Elfruler, I think it is wrong to claim they are evil, they often do dumb things for very noble reasons.
Lilly, one promises but can they deliver? The other doesn't promise, but can it not deliver?
Re: Why do our youth go back to somalia
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:09 pm
Grandpa, one fights for la ilaha illa lah, but isn't true to it, because they degrade all the principles of it and kill those that should be protected. Not to mention that they won't succeed.
Also, if nationhood is a french concept, than how can that hadith apply to a concept that doesn't exist?
Also, if nationhood is a french concept, than how can that hadith apply to a concept that doesn't exist?
Re: Why do our youth go back to somalia
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:16 pm
Khalid bin Walid (RA) committed mistakes and killed innocent muslims does that mean he was labeled a bloodthirsty terrorist? I guess in your logic it does.Grandpa, one fights for la ilaha illa lah, but isn't true to it, because they degrade all the principles of it and kill those that should be protected. Not to mention that they won't succeed.
Also, if nationhood is a french concept, than how can that hadith apply to a concept that doesn't exist?
nations did exist in the Prophet's time there was the Persians the Romans etc, nationhood can also be constituted informally via ethnicity.
Re: Why do our youth go back to somalia
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:29 pm
Idiot, no one is asking you to fight for Somali nationalism against other countries. But to fight to protect the people through the SNA.
Also, Khalid did that once, realized it was wrong, and never did it again. Do these terrorists do that? As a matter of fact more innocent muslims die by their hands then Kufars, oh wait they consider these innocent muslims kufar, I guess I'm wrong.
Also, Khalid did that once, realized it was wrong, and never did it again. Do these terrorists do that? As a matter of fact more innocent muslims die by their hands then Kufars, oh wait they consider these innocent muslims kufar, I guess I'm wrong.
Re: Why do our youth go back to somalia
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:41 pm
why do the people need to be protected under a western-backed stooge government that can't even defend itself? AMISOM troops do the bulwark of "protecting" not some phantom SNA.
How do we know Shabab killed all these innocent people? Kismayo was peaceful for 5 years without a single drop of blood due to clan fighting, law and order was paramount. Just because it doesn't fill your desire doesn't mean it ain't true, Kismayo was more peaceful in 2011 then it is today, fact. If that isn't protecting the people I don't know what is.
How do we know Shabab killed all these innocent people? Kismayo was peaceful for 5 years without a single drop of blood due to clan fighting, law and order was paramount. Just because it doesn't fill your desire doesn't mean it ain't true, Kismayo was more peaceful in 2011 then it is today, fact. If that isn't protecting the people I don't know what is.
Re: Why do our youth go back to somalia
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:54 pm
TRUTH.why do the people need to be protected under a western-backed stooge government that can't even defend itself? AMISOM troops do the bulwark of "protecting" not some phantom SNA.
How do we know Shabab killed all these innocent people? Kismayo was peaceful for 5 years without a single drop of blood due to clan fighting, law and order was paramount. Just because it doesn't fill your desire doesn't mean it ain't true, Kismayo was more peaceful in 2011 then it is today, fact. If that isn't protecting the people I don't know what is.
Re: Why do our youth go back to somalia
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:57 pm
We know because they always claim it. Yes Kismaayo was peaceful, but that is because they provided law and order, something like Norway or Sweden do 100 times better. Just because of that doesn't mean they are on the right path.why do the people need to be protected under a western-backed stooge government that can't even defend itself? AMISOM troops do the bulwark of "protecting" not some phantom SNA.
How do we know Shabab killed all these innocent people? Kismayo was peaceful for 5 years without a single drop of blood due to clan fighting, law and order was paramount. Just because it doesn't fill your desire doesn't mean it ain't true, Kismayo was more peaceful in 2011 then it is today, fact. If that isn't protecting the people I don't know what is.
Re: Why do our youth go back to somalia
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:59 pm
Whoever says that the khawarij movement al shabab is on the right path clearly doesn't know enough to make such statements.