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Waaq in the Qur'an

Postby Cherine » Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:30 pm

Who would've thought eh? I came across this discovery during Ramadan. What does Waaq mean in the Somali language? Was Waaq an ancient God of the Somalis or just a description, one of a few names for God in the Somali language like Eebe ? Certainly the city CaabudWaaq seems to suggest the latter.{Caabud being an arabic word meaning worship}

The various translators of the Qur'an translated it as defender, protector.

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For them is a penalty in the life of this world, but harder, truly, is the penalty of the Hereafter: and defender have they none against Allah.{Surat Ar Ra'ad- The Lightning, v34}


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Have they not traveled through the land and observed how was the end of those who were before them? They were greater than them in strength and in impression on the land, but Allah seized them for their sins. And they had not from Allah any protector.{Surat Ghaffir:v21}
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Re: Waaq in the Qur'an

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:36 pm

Waaqism is a monotheistic faith which is older than the Abrahmic faiths. Its probably as old as Zoastarianism, the First Monotheistic faith in the middle east.


These three concepts are Ayaana (spirit) , Uuma (nature), and Safuu (moral and ethical order). Oromos believe that through Ayaana Waaqa created and regulates human and physical worlds in balanced ways. This Ayaana also maintains the connection between the creator and the created. Oromo society has organizing principles for its known and unknown universe like any society; Ayaana is a major organizing principle of oromo cosmology through which the concepts of time and creation are ordered.

Ayaana as a system of classification and an organizing principle of oromo cosmology establishes the connection between waaqa and nature & society by differentiating and at the same time uniting the created things and the creator. Magarsaa further argues that "Ayaana is a religious and philosophical construct which represents the principles of temporality and spirituality ...(It) also serves as an operating device according to which the entire universe is organized and classified."

Oromos believe in Waaqa,a monotheistic God, that created the world through its Ayaana. They believe that this Supreme being created Ayaana and uses to organize scattered things into order. Magarsa explains that "Ayaana is the mechanism by which the creator propels it self into becoming its own opposite, and dwells in that which it creates. This is then transposed to explain the basic principles that embed themselves in the diverse oromo institutions, since there is no distinction between the laws of thought, the laws of nature, history and society." As a religious and philosophical construct ,Ayaana provides meanings of the complex universe: "Faced with the concrete reality of existence and the contradictions, oromo seem to have been compelled to look for creator, who not only creates but also holds the opposing forces in balance, and represents permanence behind the flux of existence. In the oromo view all things that are created were made possible through Ayaana. Ayaana is the organizing principle ,that . . . gives the form to anything and every thing." The concept known as Uuma includes every thing created by Waaqa including Ayaana.

The third concept Saffu as explained by one of oromo elites Asafa Jalata on his book Oromo nationalism and the Ethiopian Discourse: the search for freedom and Democracy, the cultural roots of oromo nationalism(1998), "is an ethical and moral code that the oromos use to differentiate bad from good and wrong from right...[s]affu constitutes the ethical basis upon which all human action should be founded; it is that which directs one on the right path; it shows the way in which life can be best lived." Oromos claim that the understanding of laws of Waaqa,nature and society both morally and ethically and living accordingly is necessary. Oromos believe in God's law and the law of society that they establish through the Gada System of democracy to maintain Nagaa(peace) and Saffu among Waaqa ,Society ,and nature to achieve their full human destiny known as KAO or KAYYO.

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Re: Waaq in the Qur'an

Postby LobsterUnit » Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:02 pm

Suldan tuteqamaan aka tutankhamuns somalian ancestors worshipped waaq.

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Re: Waaq in the Qur'an

Postby Hyperactive » Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:11 pm

in this aayahs above, isnt fe seghah esm bal 3ala wazn fa - 3a -ala. so not the waaq as ism alma3bood kal 3ozey wal laat.

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Re: Waaq in the Qur'an

Postby OjOO » Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:45 pm

Waaq existed before islam, and still does some part of east africa. You will find Similar passages or almost exact lines of different subjects in both koran and bible.

It's the case of copying the best of other faith. to all somali tribes with Waaq name :dj:

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Re: Waaq in the Qur'an

Postby GeoSeven » Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:52 pm

Interesting thread :leon:

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Re: Waaq in the Qur'an

Postby BlackVelvet » Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:03 pm

in this aayahs above, isnt fe seghah esm bal 3ala wazn fa - 3a -ala. so not the waaq as ism alma3bood kal 3ozey wal laat.
Could you say that again but in English or Somali please?

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Re: Waaq in the Qur'an

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:36 pm

Waaqism is the first monotheistic faith of the region with adherents before even Islam was revealed. There are times where they may be confusion of words which may have differences. Allah means God to Muslim, Christian Arabs and I am sure that it was in use before the revelation of Islam itself. To your point, we were worshippers of Waaq until several hundred years ago and still practice Customs that tell of an ancient link except it is much more subdued these days in the era of Arabization of Somalia.

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Re: Waaq in the Qur'an

Postby Hyperactive » Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:44 pm

in this aayahs above, isnt fe seghah esm bal 3ala wazn fa - 3a -ala. so not the waaq as ism alma3bood kal 3ozey wal laat.
Could you say that again but in English or Somali please?
basiclly what i said is, nothing to do the waaq as ( Allah la 3abudo , in ancient somali, as naun, oromo etc) and it's in form of verb in arabic.

in arabic every world has root. so this word roots is : Waqa' waaqin, woqo3 in languistic term. dalada can be "waqin" from rain. It would make sense , if waaq ( protector) was one of Allah's name. never been name as form of wah la 3aabudo.

المعجم: الرائد
2.واق ، الواقي ، ة - وَاقٍ ، الوَاقي ، ةُ:

جمع : ـون ، ـات . [ و ق ي ]. ( فاعل من وَقَى ). " قِنَاعٌ وَاقٍ مِنَ الغَازَاتِ السَّامَّةِ " : حَامٍ ... " دِرْعٌ وَاقٍ " " مِعْطَفٌ وَاقٍ مِنَ الْمَطَرِ " " رُفُوفٌ وَاقِيَةٌ مِنْ أَشِعَّةِ الشَّمْسِ ".

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Re: Waaq in the Qur'an

Postby waayeel101 » Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:54 pm

in this aayahs above, isnt fe seghah esm bal 3ala wazn fa - 3a -ala. so not the waaq as ism alma3bood kal 3ozey wal laat.
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Re: Waaq in the Qur'an

Postby Hyperactive » Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:58 pm

wayeel, ada english ka ika fi'ane , bal o fasir. cause it's dangerious claim. im sure was honest connection from original poster.

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Re: Waaq in the Qur'an

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:04 pm

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Re: Waaq in the Qur'an

Postby Hyperactive » Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:16 pm

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Re: Waaq in the Qur'an

Postby Cherine » Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:32 pm

I was so surprised to see it there and wondered if the Oromo/Somali word Waaq also means protector.

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Re: Waaq in the Qur'an

Postby Lillaahiya » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:09 pm

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