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Re: If Samaale existed...
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:53 am
by LiquidHYDROGEN
DNA is the right approach to this topic. The Eurasian component in Somali DNA is only 15%. OJOO is right.
Somalis don't have Eurasian DNA. And Somalis have no link with ancient Egypt, so I don't know what that map is about.
Re: If Samaale existed...
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:56 am
by Hyperactive
hyper, mosh 3aref dah kalema nafsiyan, lakeen shoft min ma2aal alathe kotiba mualif injleezee
wan gartay. the thing is somalis history is just oral. some one would come to you and just claim you family are such and such ! lol when you ask evidence all they say is; rer hebel wa oromo laku hanta! lol. somalis make history while walking.
Re: If Samaale existed...
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:56 am
by Grant
Obviously!
DNA is the right approach to this topic. The Eurasian component in Somali DNA is only 15%. OJOO is right.
Somalis don't have Eurasian DNA. And Somalis have no link with ancient Egypt,
so I don't know what that map is about.
Re: If Samaale existed...
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:06 am
by Marques
hyper, mosh 3aref dah kalema nafsiyan, lakeen shoft min ma2aal alathe kotiba mualif injleezee
wan gartay. the thing is somalis history is just oral. some one would come to you and just claim you family are such and such ! lol when you ask evidence all they say is; rer hebel wa oromo laku hanta! lol. somalis make history while walking.

awya. wallah kamaa ta9ef...7eena el 2uresh ma3dood nasabohom ila ism 3dnaan (3araabiyoon yaqsimoon ilaa qa76aaniyoon wa 3dnaaniyoon)...kan el rasool 3alayh salam yagool 'el ansaabeen hom el kathabeen fee kalaamehem' aw kama 2aal...famosh yanf3 kadah..
Re: If Samaale existed...
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:08 am
by hurdaayetoos
The Real History of Samaale,
Samaale existed? Allah knows
If Samaale existed you need to ask Hawiye, they are the sole force behind the Samaale exsistanse, Since History Hawiye ancestor was only Samaale
Oromo have Samaale and Boran clans are from Samaalo family tree so this Samaale name is very common to the horn.
Dir specially the Isa Clan was always saying Samaale like the hawiye and they even tell you today but some of the Dir clans specially gudubirsi claim different ancestor call Ramnag
Now Isaaq This is a real story not a fake.
Isaaqs claim of sheek isxaaq and arabia started after they been deployed to kenya as part of the biritish army. This time is the first time Sheekh isaaq of arabia come along before that Isaaq was DIR.
First time isaaq ever claim anything other then Dir was when Isaaq solders were deployed to Kenya as part of British army, they saw to be African = slaves and nigggers so in their ID isaaq claim arab ancestor and UK changed from dir to sheekh ixaaq of arabia and that gave access to any where Hotels motels, where ever a white man can get in in kenya they could too as been arab and colour and not negrrro.
Darod. its always said Darod Ismaaciil al jaberti
the Jeberti claim is something that can be investigated possibly because The Jabarti people are alive they are not fake and they live mostly Eritrea and Ethiopia and Yeman infact habasha tigrinya and jabarti are same people, Muslims are Jaberti and Christians are habasha and tigre so is it claim or reality? as they say one of the jeberti brother married to a dir ? only Allah knows but Jeberti people are real and alive and the link between jaberti and Darod them selfs can answer that question.
Re: If Samaale existed...
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:13 am
by Hyperactive
Allhamdullilah, aakharo, ansaab inan la is weydeneynin. mafee hatha nasabo rafee'a walla hatha wate'a. lakal hMd washuk ya rab.
Re: If Samaale existed...
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:15 am
by Casanova25
Somebody called me in...
its sad to see that our Communities today have no knowlegde of WHO they are themselves. but the likes of Grant knows the truth..
and the Hagites are bunch of useless human beings, aswell..
Knowlegde is power... you have to understand that, and quit the nomadic way of life.. we live in a information time.
Ismail's answers
WHO are the somalis nobody knows it xataa..

Re: If Samaale existed...
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:24 am
by Casanova25
for those WHO question samaale.. Samaale existed, and the arabs wrote about samaale.. claiming him to be arab, while samaale never claimed to be arab himself.. and in other sources they say he was a Indian..
But samaale never claimed that himself. if samaale didn't exist then all those tribes WHO come under his lineage tree would have not existed as well. every tribes abtirsi do not contradict the other tribes abtirsi tree.. to samaale himself.
Samaale came either from egypt or his forefathers came from egypt..
Samaale was my 25th father. in a well recorded forefather tree..
For those WHO do not know this.. The haplogroup E-V32 is the son of E-V12 because of mutations. maybe weather mutations. but that Haplogroup is Eurasian under The mediterrean race. thats why somalis are considered a admixture race..

Re: If Samaale existed...
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:25 am
by OjOO
they make me laugh about stories of somaal tribe. some of them are from straight from koran
Samaal, lodoon, lojire are all same thing. you find both tigray, afar,oromo, borana, saho, maay maay, konso, masaai, Rendille some are muslims other are christian, and traditional belief. but all have same old names unchanged
Also if you look at it those who did not abandoned they original in favour of arabic sounding name.
Take example this woman from isak clan frome ethiopia name.
Dr Moha . F. Jira jira as lo jira but some point the family drop lo. kept jira

Re: If Samaale existed...
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:35 am
by LiquidHYDROGEN
for those WHO question samaale.. Samaale existed, and the arabs wrote about samaale.. claiming him to be arab, while samaale never claimed to be arab himself.. and in other sources they say he was a Indian..
But samaale never claimed that himself. if samaale didn't exist then all those tribes WHO come under his lineage tree would have not existed as well. every tribes abtirsi do not contradict the other tribes abtirsi tree.. to samaale himself.
Samaale came either from egypt or his forefathers came from egypt..
Samaale was my 25th father. in a well recorded forefather tree..
For those WHO do not know this.. The haplogroup E-V32 is the son of E-V12 because of mutations. maybe weather mutations. but that Haplogroup is Eurasian under The mediterrean race. thats why somalis are considered a admixture race..

E3b is an African haplogroup, not a Eurasian one.
Re: If Samaale existed...
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:49 am
by Casanova25
for those WHO question samaale.. Samaale existed, and the arabs wrote about samaale.. claiming him to be arab, while samaale never claimed to be arab himself.. and in other sources they say he was a Indian..
But samaale never claimed that himself. if samaale didn't exist then all those tribes WHO come under his lineage tree would have not existed as well. every tribes abtirsi do not contradict the other tribes abtirsi tree.. to samaale himself.
Samaale came either from egypt or his forefathers came from egypt..
Samaale was my 25th father. in a well recorded forefather tree..
For those WHO do not know this.. The haplogroup E-V32 is the son of E-V12 because of mutations. maybe weather mutations. but that Haplogroup is Eurasian under The mediterrean race. thats why somalis are considered a admixture race..

E3b is an African haplogroup, not a Eurasian one.
Nope... if you say E3b was african then the serbs, Greeks, berbers, spanish, parts of italy and egyptians becomes African as well..
So E3b is a large one.. there is some old once in ethiopia. but they are minority and very old haplogroup and rare haplogroup like A-haplo..
No check this out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68_(Y-DNA)
The somali E-V12(ancient egypt + Somali + ethio) is a eurasian, and Brothers with the E-V13 (Greeks, serbs, italians)...
But i would not claim eurasian.. but Horner

Re: If Samaale existed...
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:24 am
by Peroxide
What does it matter to you what Somalis are? You are a f-king Arab.
Re: If Samaale existed...
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:26 am
by saacJabshee
What does it matter to you what Somalis are? You are a f-king Arab.

Re: If Samaale existed...
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:05 am
by sahal80
Originally samaale was a linguistic geographic grouping
Firstly, the people were known as two groups: aji and ajuraan, there were a third religious group called saado who were qadis/judges like the asharaaf and sheekhaals
After the collapse af the ajuraan, the aji were divided into sab and samaale according to their dialects, some have adopted af may and has joined the sab group.
Later on, some saado have joined the sab like the ashraaf and others samaale like the sheekhaal.
Re: If Samaale existed...
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:23 am
by Casanova25
Originally samaale was a linguistic geographic grouping
Firstly, the people were known as two groups: aji and ajuraan, there were a third religious group called saado who were qadis/judges like the asharaaf and sheekhaals
After the collapse af the ajuraan, the aji were divided into sab and samaale according to their dialects, some have adopted af may and has joined the sab group.
Later on, some saado have joined the sab like the ashraaf and others samaale like the sheekhaal.
assumptions....
Read my old threads.. search for samaale/berberian race..
I'm out
