Constrast and Compare : Hitler Vs. Siyaad Baare!

[Basra-]

Both men were vehement nationalistic. Patriots of their beloved country. Both of them vehemently shy. Both of them spoke speeches that move the masses. Both had a tiny trimmed moustache, not really a moustache but not really completely shaven. A secret code for gayness? Both men had no personal list of opposite sexual relations. Both men waited till at the age 40 to be seen with a woman. Both of them were tidy and clean, just like a good gay boy. Both of them ruled with iron fist in the brotherhood of men ONLY grouping.



I am watching Hitler documentary on YOUTUBE now. Its called Was Hitler A Homosexual?

Was Baare a HOMOSEXUAL?

[hydrogen]

Hitler executed homosexuals whereas Barre executed religious leaders. I know which one screams closet gay the most.

[Basra-]

Hitler executed homosexuals whereas Barre executed religious leaders. I know which one screams closet gay the most.

Hydro@loooool



If there were 'open' gay Somalis in Somalia--bare would have killed them too.

[hydrogen]

Hitler executed homosexuals whereas Barre executed religious leaders. I know which one screams closet gay the most.

Hydro@loooool



If there were 'open' gay Somalis in Somalia--bare would have killed them too.

Kill them in what way?

[Vivacious]

The similar topics suggest that you are obsessed with Siyad Barre. Marxuunka amaanka sii yarey

[Basra-]

the same way he killed the religious sheikhs. He will never change his tactics or means of getting rid of his 'enemies'. Baare and Hitler both loved power, and anyone coming to threaten that would be eliminated, naturally. Even Stalin was the same. He would promote someone and as soon as they gain popularity or power, they mysteriously disappear. lol

With Baare I think it was different. HE wasn't as 'crazy' as Hitler. On top of his homosexuality, hitler suffered from mental madness, accumulated by suppressing his sexuality. His face alone tells u the man was not of coherent sound mind, certainly very temperamental. Baare was very simple. Yes, he was hungry power just like any other African leader or man would be, but his was that of a miniscule proportion. He was a simple man who was very shy. Baare if not being an 'active' homosexual, he was at least an asexual, gay closeted who did not act on his thoughts. My frustration though is to know what kind of men-- turn Baare on. I know what kind of men turned Hitler on. Blonde, boyish, SLIM, and athletic. (these requirements were written by hitler himself in the book, Meinkempf in which he espoused what an ideal man should look like )

I want to know what Baare 'type' was, my guess would be--he liked something very Somali authentic. Meaning, the darker skin a man was, the better. (due to his hyper patriotic sense) He probably wanted a clean shaved man as he has a tiny hitler pseudo manly moustache. (opposite attract) My guess was -since bare appeared slightly effeminate and innocent like in the photos, he probably liked what hitler liked too. Slim, athletic and bloyish men. (except the blonde is replaced with a good afro for bare, and a possible authentic chewing an cadeey)

[Tanker]

The Nazi leadership in Germany including Hitler had a wild love for beautiful young teenage boys, according to Nazi ideology hardcore gay sex between boys was a strong way to improve the German republic, the Germans made the youth boy groups and the germans had plans in order to make the love connection between boys strong......

The germans killed gay men who acted like females they saw them as a threat to a strong Germany but they loved strong german men who acted like men and had sex with other men.

[Basra-]

Tanker@looool

Why do u appear anytime I bring up homosexuality? Watch the Youtube vid, u will see a Jew infamous gay man had a gay movement for gays. He accused aristocratic German men of gayness, and attributed femininity as a proof of their gayness. Therefore, the German watching public, began to associate femness with gayness and there was born the masculinity or strength culture of men to reject the gay stereotype, particularly in the barracks of Nazi bootcamps. Unfortunately, that is where Hitler also started his hate for the Jews. (although, Hitler's hate for the jews started in his youth when he was homeless, and he saw rich Jews and was jealous)

[hydrogen]

The Nazi leadership in Germany including Hitler had a wild love for beautiful young teenage boys, according to Nazi ideology hardcore gay sex between boys was a strong way to improve the German republic, the Germans made the youth boy groups and the germans had plans in order to make the love connection between boys strong......

The germans killed gay men who acted like females they saw them as a threat to a strong Germany but they loved strong german men who acted like men and had sex with other men.

Maybe a similar thing happened in the Ogaden war.

[Basra-]

Hydro

Ogaden then could not engage in gay activity. A gay act, is the act of a 'civilized' man. A person comfortable with his or her own skin. A person, who is not busy juggling the necessity of mans needs like food, shelter, or income. Gay is a city mans problem. The Ogadens as we know, are not city dwellers, nor do they have a land of their own come to think of it. They are hyper reer baadiye and oppsite gayness, at least overtly and open. Indeed, there were gay ogaden then, but it was not in their psyche that they were gay. They did not privately aknowledge it to themselves let alone to the world. Today, ilbaaaxniimo allows a gay person to at least acknowledge to themselves. They didn't recognize it. Yes, the Gu.s was excited at the site of fellow cagdheer, but they were not eloquent or had the acumen to associate that with the caagdheer handsome man before him causing that but rather his sister whom, he envisions must be the cause.

[Tanker]

Basra are you saying Hitler hated the Jews because they were against the gay movement? lool

as you said the germans were against men who acted like females but promoted gay sex and male-male relationships as long they were strong boys/ men in fact the german policy saw women as tools only to give children while boys and men were to enjoy.....



hydrogen lool

[Basra-]

Tanker

No, Hitler hated the jews exactly why through out history many civilizations and race hated the jews. From the Romans, to the greeks, to the british to the Germans. Hitler hated the jews because to him they represented a contamination of what he viewed the perfect German specimen. Blonde, slim and German. Most jews are big nose, dark hair and not slim. On top of that, he hated that famous jew man calling a respectable aristocratic German a homo. His hate was not a personal phenomenon, he just formulated a plan to exercise his hate by eliminating them. People in history, thought of doing what Hitler did to the jews but never had the means,

[Tanker]

I think a lot of horny somali teenage boys had gay sex in those tropical warm summer nights in somalia in the 70s and 80s

there was a bank owner who came home and saw it his own son doing it to a male friend

[hydrogen]

Basra, Hitler hated Jews because of economic reasons, he didn't really think of the Teutonic Germans as the Herrenrasse as he claimed but rather it was maneuver to get Germany out of recession. The banks, properties and universities were privately owned by the Jews hence the National Socialist Party (Nazi). Race is a social construct and no one believes themselves to be superior in a realistic sense. He was rejected from Art school by a Jewish tutor and his mother died at the hands of her Jew carer. His hatred towards them was personal and the nation's hatred towards them had an economic basis. Recession increases resentment and division which was something he exploited for power. His aims of world dominance were not to oppress everyone but create a system (the Third Reich) which aimed to put Germany at the apex of wealth. For example in the UK, there is a double-dip recession and parties that were unheard of such as the British National Party are gaining seats in the parliament.

[Basra-]

Hydro

Point taken. Yep, I guess I agree it was personal. But I really think, at the core of anti semitic sentiments lies jealousy. Like u said, jews owned almost everything. Hitler used the hate for jews for his own purposes. It could be personal or not personal, not really important. What is important is what he did to them-which is a physical action, albeit horrifying one. I mean, one can imagine-- I don't think there was ever an empire which destroyed jews so systematically as the Hitler. Maybe the Pharaohs, God knows how many died. Prophet Musa who was raised by the Pharaohs had to kill an Egyptian person, and caused him to run away from people who raised him. lol Hitler was a very complicated man. I think the Jew factor was very small compared to the mental factor and the gay factor in shaping the man hitler.