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Re: Minimum Age of Wali - Sheik Hyperactive
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:31 pm
by SultanOrder
isn't it 16??
in regards to younger brother...I think the person that should stand as wali is someone responsible.
but I don't know if this is true but if a women reaches a certain age eg..60 plus and gets married would she require wali???
If you are financially independent and not a virgin you don't need a wali
Re: Minimum Age of Wali - Sheik Hyperactive
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:35 pm
by Jam Street
If you are financially independent and not a virgin you don't need a wali
That means most feminists don't need a wali then.
Re: Minimum Age of Wali - Sheik Hyperactive
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:15 pm
by Hyperactive
Lol @ scholar!!! you should ask sheikh google, if you don't like certain opinion, you keep searching until you find opinion that you want it and goes with your thinking!
Re: Minimum Age of Wali - Sheik Hyperactive
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:01 pm
by FAH1223
Abdiwahab was born in the great drought of 1974 in Somalia. He's going to be 40 this year... or maybe he turned 40 with 1/1/14 already passed.

Re: Minimum Age of Wali - Sheik Hyperactive
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:06 pm
by Colonel
Oday 252 you better invite me to the meher when you settle down

But don't try to find a way around asking the father's permission
If you are financially independent and not a virgin you don't need a wali
Only the Hanafi School holds this opinion if I'm not mistaken? If it was that simple surely we'd be eating good?
Re: Minimum Age of Wali - Sheik Hyperactive
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 7:02 pm
by zulaika
Lol @ scholar!!! you should ask sheikh google, if you don't like certain opinion, you keep searching until you find opinion that you want it and goes with your thinking!
Is this one of those "conflicting yet valid" rulings? Muslims are now a days having trouble swimming through that vast "grey" area between what is permissible and what is not, largely due to the discrepancies of sheik's opinions..
Re: Minimum Age of Wali - Sheik Hyperactive
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 7:10 pm
by Hyperactive
zulaikha, is very hard for academic researcher leave alone random person. original, jamhour "opinions " lost in too much wording issues and linguistic argument. things went to, what, this word, in arabic, of course by imam..X or Y. so now government law placed so we can rule one ruling instead samatic arguments of wording.
in my court by law i need her wali, if not want to approve, we ask his reasoning and comes down to family issues and not religion based.
Re: Minimum Age of Wali - Sheik Hyperactive
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:41 pm
by Marques
How can you go to her brother when her father is alive? Even if he's soaking it up in the Bahama beaches he must be informed. It's his daughter.
Would you want your daughters hand to be requested from your son instead of you? It's a dishonour!
Re: Minimum Age of Wali - Sheik Hyperactive
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:26 am
by salool
Ninkan wa riywaayad socota..maalinba sheeko xariir la imow

Re: Minimum Age of Wali - Sheik Hyperactive
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:30 am
by Hyperactive
salool, AW, thinks he is 18 forever. marki 3azoobi nimada laku raaqu, sida ba lo sa3sa3a.
Re: Minimum Age of Wali - Sheik Hyperactive
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:00 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Colonel,
Of course saaxib. Can you make it to the USA ? It will be a memorable one: dancing, music, a roast, day time affair ! I will show you how odeey AW used to kick it back in the day, Soul Train style.
FAH,
Bingo, I am a couple years older than your eedo.
Marques,
I am just asking out of practicalities. Her brother is a cool man. For expediency, he could step in for his dad if the old man approves (if he disapproves, then its a whole another problem).
Salool,
Gurdoon.com
Sheik Hyperactive,
Adeer, so her brother qualifies. Good news !
Re: Minimum Age of Wali - Sheik Hyperactive
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:08 pm
by Hyperactive
AW, 16 is adult if he is mature and sane person. but is legal age where you are?
i always say, respect the law of the land or move.
plus, naag ayaduba kaleged take care of her self, even send her father billkeesa. my motto is, if one responsible their financial affairs can marry and that is hanbali opinion.
hanbali, conciser marriage as business deal/contract, if she doesnt need her father's permission to sale and buy , she doesnt need their permission but she has to let them know.
Re: Minimum Age of Wali - Sheik Hyperactive
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:59 pm
by waayeel101
sheikh hyper,
duqan wuxu raba inu wiilka yar intu nacnac siiyo gabadha iska kaxaysto
mad'habka ugu adag ra'iyigisa oo sheeg hadi kale danbiga ka yimad ada iska leh lol.
Re: Minimum Age of Wali - Sheik Hyperactive
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:31 pm
by Skippa
if you don't like certain opinion, you keep searching until you find opinion that you want it and goes with your thinking!

Re: Minimum Age of Wali - Sheik Hyperactive
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:17 am
by AbdiWahab252
Sheik Hyper,
Thank you for the additional information. It has been incredibly useful.