Just watched "12 Years A Slave"

[Based]

Have you seen the current state of Haiti? That type of movie would only confirm that blacks are better off being enslaved.

It's like the USC making a movie about the overthrow of MSB...doesn't really have a good ending does it?

[HusseinHassan]

Have you seen the current state of Haiti? That type of movie would only confirm that blacks are better off being enslaved.

It's like the USC making a movie about the overthrow of MSB...doesn't really have a good ending does it?

[Marques]

Have you seen the current state of Haiti? That type of movie would only confirm that blacks are better off being enslaved.

It's like the USC making a movie about the overthrow of MSB...doesn't really have a good ending does it?

The plight of some folks ending up in Utanga till this very day, nah course it don't have a good ending, for some.

[Colonel]

Have you seen the current state of Haiti? That type of movie would only confirm that blacks are better off being enslaved.

It's like the USC making a movie about the overthrow of MSB...doesn't really have a good ending does it?

[Estarix]

The film was pretty good.

Have you seen the current state of Haiti? That type of movie would only confirm that blacks are better off being enslaved.

It's like the USC making a movie about the overthrow of MSB...doesn't really have a good ending does it?

lol and who could follow the film with all these rebel groups turning against one another
Would be hard to tell the protoganist and antagonist

[Based]

Have you seen the current state of Haiti? That type of movie would only confirm that blacks are better off being enslaved.

It's like the USC making a movie about the overthrow of MSB...doesn't really have a good ending does it?

The plight of some folks ending up in Utanga till this very day, nah course it don't have a good ending, for some.

http://books.google.com/books?id=BEezmB ... an&f=false

Utanga was heaven on earth compared to Mogadishu in 1991, if we're being honest with each other here. A year later we were in the West, while some were still dodging bullets and sending their drugged-up children to fight and die for their local warlord until the terrorists buttfucked the warlords.

Not exactly the land of milk and honey Aideed et al. promised you, was it?

[Marques]

Coupla exiled hobos playing ping pong in a refugee camp, that's heaven all right.

Let me guess, hooyo told you it was a holiday somaha

[Based]

Compared to what became of Mogadishu, it might as well have been an all expenses paid vacation.

Honestly though, what did the average Hawiye gain from the government's collapse?

[HusseinHassan]

Have you seen the current state of Haiti? That type of movie would only confirm that blacks are better off being enslaved.

It's like the USC making a movie about the overthrow of MSB...doesn't really have a good ending does it?

The plight of some folks ending up in Utanga till this very day, nah course it don't have a good ending, for some.

Utanga was heaven on earth compared to Mogadishu in 1991, if we're being honest with each other here. A year later we were in the West, while some were still dodging bullets and sending their drugged-up children to fight and die for their local warlord until the terrorists buttfucked the warlords.

Not exactly the land of milk and honey Aideed et al. promised you, was it?

that's a knockout. marques is done

[Marques]

When are we gonna hear maamul goboleedka Utanga next?

They gained nothing from its collapse. They also gained nothing when it became clear the regime no longer had the peoples interest at heart.

[HusseinHassan]

Honestly though, what did the average Hawiye gain from the government's collapse?

They gained nothing from its collapse.

[Based]

I never understood why Hawiyes think Aideed was some sort of hero. He literally killed/caused the deaths of more Hawiye than any other person in the entirety of Somali history.Taking into account what the average Hawiye citizen went through these past two decades, you should hate Aideed more than anybody else.

You went from being normal citizens, going to work, sending your kids to school through the tertiary level free of charge, to worrying about whether one laf of your juffo might wipe the other out overnight. He promised to free you from "tyranny" so you fought for him, killed for him, only for him to turn around and attack one Hawiye subclan after the other within literally weeks. He convinces all the Hawiye subclans to rebel, only to attack Abgaal, Murusade, Xawaadle, and in the end sections of his own subclan. He finally dies in an intra-Sacad skirmish at the hands of one of his junkie child soldiers, leaving behind a Somalia engulfed by tribal warfare, warlords, and roaming bands of teenage gunmen, bizarrely hailed as a hero by people who fled the Somalia he created.

Now that I think about it, that would actually be a great movie

[Marques]

Aideed wanted what Afwayne wanted. Rulership by personal decree. One had the nation on a silver plate (1969), the other had to fight wars to bring Somalia under his thumb (1991).

You constantly take pride in Marehanism and then wonder why a Hawiye will support his fellow Hawiye? You are either misinformed about clan politics or you just simply don't know what you are talking about.

Shouldn't you be hailing him a hero too? He gave you a free holiday didn't he

[Based]

Marehans support MSB because they're proud of his achievements and the quality of life they had under his benevolent rule.

Don't really see what Aideed did for you though

[Marques]

What's your logic? You want the Hawiye man to accept a Darod government, despite today we have the Darod pedalling federalism to run away from a Hawiye government? Sxbow you can't have your cake and eat it too. Adeer, arintii Somalia qabiil ay noqotay, markii loo kala baxay oo laysku oday sheegtay ayaa hadana cabaadaysaa? Now you can write pages and pages of Aideeds misfortunes but it will not take away the fact that you must leave your Marxist Daroodist agenda behind at the gates of Mogadishu when talking national politics today. Caydiid went up against the nepotism and the corruption of the regime you have just clearly vindicated for providing "a quality of life they had under his benevolent rule" i.e. the Booli qaran and the institutionalised qabyaalad, only to spawn his own version of notoriety which today has given the platform for the Hawiye to be ruling your country. In the eyes of the clannist i.e. every Somali, it's their clan and their clan first.