nomadic somali ways

[sahal80]

I wonder why these snetters who are well versed in many westren languages such the dutch, swedish and english have still nomadic minds!

Where is the privacy? The respect? The courtesy?

You just cant have one good thread unless they destroy it with a meaningless stuff

For me I'm reserved except in the business, work, govt...I don't even mention the things in a explicit way not because of fear just couldn't change myself

Last night I was in a turkish place, I had a bottle of hot sauce on my table. There was this somali guy and without saying can you pass for me... he took the bottle to his table! I got abit angery

Some times your at a door and a somali will walk in without saying excuse me

The worest one happened to me this week. I was waiting some one in a somali place and killing the time with watching some old political youtoube video on my phone and this odey has sat behind me watching too though he can't heard, he got closer and without even noticing he started talking to me about the importance of the man and his era. I said to him no I'm just trying to know the era, I don't care about him. He said no he was the best and kept on and on. I didn't get angery because he is from the old generation but the somali place was shyt! What a retard place was!!.

[srsbsns]

What do you know about nomadic customs?

[IRONm@N]

lool, so true.
I notice that too, that is why even if you google the word Somalis, the first sentence google suggests is "Somalis are rude"? com

for example, they come to the cashier, and instead of saying Hi! and handing the money to the cashier they will throw the money or change on the table while talking on the cell phone. Americans consider that as rude, but between Somali ppl its normal thing.
in college, you will see Somalis talking all the time, in the library, in class, in the computer lab, its like, when do these ppl sit and read stuff.
then in the bathroom, you will see ppl throwing towel papers in urinal, can you believe that, towel paper in the urinal? they know it will clog it and someone have to pull it out with their hand, but they still do it.

[sahal80]

lool, so true.
I notice that too, that is why even if you google the word Somalis, the first sentence google suggests is "Somalis are rude"? com

for example, they come to the cashier, and instead of saying Hi! and handing the money to the cashier they will throw the money or change on the table while talking on the cell phone. Americans consider that as rude, but between Somali ppl its normal thing.
in college, you will see Somalis talking all the time, in the library, in class, in the computer lab, its like, when do these ppl sit and read stuff.
then in the bathroom, you will see ppl throwing towel papers in urinal, can you believe that, towel paper in the urinal? they know it will clog it and someone have to pull it out with their hand, but they still do it.

Loooooool worest is when travilling by coach and there is a couple of old somalis in the middle of it and no direction is calm and all the people are watching them yet dont get it at all . ala qeelo badanaa!:mindblown:

[STARKAST]

In Somalia there is something especially true there are two classes and only two. 90% of the population are in the lower and only about 10% are in the latter.
This principle extends to the west sadly however will widen as generations extend.

[sahal80]

In Somalia there is something especially true there are two classes and only two. 90% of the population are in the lower and only about 10% are in the latter.
This principle extends to the west sadly however will widen as generations extend.

Though as a political system you northerners are better than us southreners I have noticed in the west that the northerners are more retarded socially. The northers have more divorce issues, do less work, more tribalists(a lot of notherners have asked my northern friends what's my tribe while non of mine have asked me this about them), speak higher...Apparently your are politically stable bc of still being center-cultured as ex badiyo.

[gurey25]

In Somalia there is something especially true there are two classes and only two. 90% of the population are in the lower and only about 10% are in the latter.
This principle extends to the west sadly however will widen as generations extend.

Though as a political system you northerners are better than us southreners I have noticed in the west that the northerners are more retarded socially. The northers have more divorce issues, do less work, more tribalists(a lot of notherners have asked my northern friends what's my tribe while non of mine have asked me this about them), speak higher...Apparently your are politically stable bc of still being center-cultured as ex badiyo.

you stumbled on the secrets of Somaliland and puntlands success, reer badiyoism/qabiilsim.
this is why we have stability and peace, pretending to be something you are not will not work and lead you nowehere.
embrace qabiil and work with it.

[STARKAST]

Yeah i agree with Gurey, we have to accept what we got: Qabil and work with it. I guess that's why northern politics is more 'organized'.

sahal80 We're all Somalis ! What you've mentioned it'll be cool to study it and see if what you said is factual.

[sahal80]

In Somalia there is something especially true there are two classes and only two. 90% of the population are in the lower and only about 10% are in the latter.
This principle extends to the west sadly however will widen as generations extend.

Though as a political system you northerners are better than us southreners I have noticed in the west that the northerners are more retarded socially. The northers have more divorce issues, do less work, more tribalists(a lot of notherners have asked my northern friends what's my tribe while non of mine have asked me this about them), speak higher...Apparently your are politically stable bc of still being center-cultured as ex badiyo.

you stumbled on the secrets of Somaliland and puntlands success, reer badiyoism/qabiilsim.
this is why we have stability and peace, pretending to be something you are not will not work and lead you nowehere.
embrace qabiil and work with it.

True. I know guys like you understand this is not an insult, its the cultural core itself whatever its.

Yemen is a very tribal country(not the same somali political tribalism, its a social tribalism/al curf al qabali) this one is stronger than the invading mad-habs, and cultures. People are naturally armed yet nothing like what happened in iraq and syria or lebya is happening in yemen wich has the same number of shia and sunna, just a peaceful revolution because of al curf al qabali being stronger wa aqwa min al mazahib al ghazia.

Places like tunis they are different, they have seen a cultural reform since the 50s under habib bouguiba and his educational reforms, the emancipation of women and prohibiting the polygamy. When he come to power both syria and tunis had the same size of population in the 50s, today tunis has about 10m while syria has 25m population due to his family planning policy.

In tunis, every body is material because of their educational reforms, he would say: I wanna have nice car, nice house and nice job, that is it

In syria, they got rid of their francophone culture under the arab nationalists, all education was based in arabic yet they had fough the local tribal system

We in the south have lost our qabilism culture yet had no foreing backed cultural and educational reforms like that of angole and other countries so we bcome victims of the invading mad-habs and cultures to the point of al amriki claiming being raxanwan while in the north there is a a tribal immunity that had protected them from all these changes.

Yeah i agree with Gurey, we have to accept what we got: Qabil and work with it. I guess that's why northern politics is more 'organized'.

sahal80 We're all Somalis ! What you've mentioned it'll be cool to study it and see if what you said is factual.

I see.

[Marques]

We in the south have lost our qabilism culture yet had no foreing backed cultural and educational reforms like that of angole and other countries so we bcome victims of the invading mad-habs and cultures to the point of al amriki claiming being raxanwan while in the north there is a a tribal immunity that had protected them from all these changes.

Good observation.

[Bermooda]

We in the south have lost our qabilism culture yet had no foreing backed cultural and educational reforms like that of angole and other countries so we bcome victims of the invading mad-habs and cultures to the point of al amriki claiming being raxanwan while in the north there is a a tribal immunity that had protected them from all these changes.

Maybe that is a good thing in the long run. Clans where made by Allah so you remember where you come from not use it against one another.

[sahal80]

We in the south have lost our qabilism culture yet had no foreing backed cultural and educational reforms like that of angole and other countries so we bcome victims of the invading mad-habs and cultures to the point of al amriki claiming being raxanwan while in the north there is a a tribal immunity that had protected them from all these changes.

Maybe that is a good thing in the long run. Clans where made by Allah so you remember where you come from not use it against one another.

Politically yeah its great to ditch this tribalism but as I stated before the arabs have no political tribalism at all its called al qabaliya al ijtimaciya/social tribalism or al curf al qabali/tribal cult. In the south the kids are giving orders to the elders and are beating them.

Who should have protected our social febric/al nasiij al ijtimaci? Should be al curf al qabali or the nationhood state...since there were no nationhood state, the enclosed northerners were save from these global destructive waves.

No it will take ages to recover from a cultural change even the french revolution has seen a period of terror for over 30 years between the rival factions, this was caused by the revolution wich had a noble goals not a terrorism.

The transion from the social and political destructive culture to a national/tribal/local change in the south will take ages and there is no real cure at the moment.

In the ancient times there was an alcoholist arabic poet he was sick and on the bed because of his addiction so use to say wadawinii billati hiya al daau/ cure me with the illness! he means get for him more alcohol lol ethiopia is this destructive cultures alcohol, will keep it alive I'm sure its an ethiopian strategy!.

But there is a hope from a muslim international partners to involve in the security strategy within this year and has given amisom their last chance, they told the west that the solution is to build the somali army forces instead of losing money on amisom who is not serious. These countries are turkey and UAE.

Thanks mowlana abakar.

[GeoSeven]

We in the south have lost our qabilism culture yet had no foreing backed cultural and educational reforms like that of angole and other countries so we bcome victims of the invading mad-habs and cultures to the point of al amriki claiming being raxanwan while in the north there is a a tribal immunity that had protected them from all these changes.

That actually makes sense Sahal.

[Bermooda]

Sahal exactly France took 30 years the South is close to that mark. In my eyes tribalism is the highest national security risk to any country cos people expect to get a position on clan terms instead of merit and when they don't threaten to cause havoc.

On thing that made cadaans so powerful is that they left behind that primitive way of thinking tho they went too far and completely erased their roots.