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Re: New Cold War?

Postby Bermooda » Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:27 pm

James Dahl I see you standing up for you kin never knew cadan were race qabilist :damn:
I see it as the lesser of the two evils. China doesn't invade you military they're all about their mullahs neither is Russia unless it is provoked in its back garden.

They might give you weapon tho now that is bad but i rather have my opponent supplied than a world superpower doing his bidding.

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Re: New Cold War?

Postby James Dahl » Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:27 pm

I have no sympathy for Russia, it must be demolished and it's regime dismantled, they have kept Assad on a lifeline and continue to aid him with weapons and logistics. Let's not forget their slaughter of Checnyans pre-Sochi games, too "secure the games".
Assad has many friends, not just Russia. The West has basically allowed Russia to fund Assad due to concerns over what might happen if ISIS is victorious. If Obama had wanted Assad's regime finished, he would have finished it.
The greatest irony about Syria is people think Assad is a hero for fighting the west, not realizing they actually have an arrangement of sorts, and it's the Sunni world that is basically funding the rebellion. The west funds the Syrian Opposition just enough to keep them from losing.

For the west, Syria is the perfect conflict. Al-Qaeda, Russia, Iran and Hezbollah will all exhaust each other with butchery and bloodshed over a meaningless conflict in order to satisfy the ego of a single man and his palaces in Damascus.

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Re: New Cold War?

Postby gurey25 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:33 pm

Creating a "good guy, bad guy" narrative, you assume whoever is opposing the Bad Guy (always the nebulous "west"), must be the Good Guy.

There is no such thing as a Good Guy in geopolitics, everyone is out for themselves, you just have varying degrees of selfish interest and varying levels of brutality in how far they are willing to go to achieve their national interests. Russia has been aggressively projecting their power all over the world to counter a veritable legion of rebellions against their puppet regimes, which is not very different from what George W Bush did throughout his presidency, but he's against the west so it's a heroic struggle against evil, not an iron fist smushing dissent.

In this respect, people cheerleading Vladimir Putin are no better than the people who went on Fox News in 2004 saying all the torture and bombing and brutality was all in self defense and for the best possible purposes.
Russia is resisting the Empire that we are all enslaved by, this is why we cheer for Putin.
All of us every muslim country except for Iran are miserable sniveling slaves, or favorite house niggers ala the House of Saud and their ilk.

You guys are hilarious, first China is doing infrastructure projects in Africa out of the goodness of their hearts, now Russia is the good guy standing up for Ukraine.

I imagine next you'll tell me Hitler was just trying to protect ethnic Germans in Poland.
China brings much needed infrastructure in africa, they also provided more aid to an increasing number fo countries than the IMF/World Bank. The loans they provide are also quite cheap and for the first time are loans that african countries can actually payback. To top it off they do not interfere in the internal politics of countries unlike the empire that believes it has the right to.
very attractive package really.
and Russia is the good guy in Ukraine you are the bad guy, this is how anyone with their eyes open sees the world.
and to be honest everything that Hitler did up till Crystalnackt was not only justifiable but what all Germans from all political backgrounds agreed on 100%.
Demonizing him does not change history or facts.

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Re: New Cold War?

Postby gurey25 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:35 pm

I have no sympathy for Russia, it must be demolished and it's regime dismantled, they have kept Assad on a lifeline and continue to aid him with weapons and logistics. Let's not forget their slaughter of Checnyans pre-Sochi games, too "secure the games".
disposal puppets, with no understanding of the world around them, commanded to action by remote control do not have the right to speak.

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Re: New Cold War?

Postby grandpakhalif » Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:46 pm

I have no sympathy for Russia, it must be demolished and it's regime dismantled, they have kept Assad on a lifeline and continue to aid him with weapons and logistics. Let's not forget their slaughter of Checnyans pre-Sochi games, too "secure the games".
Assad has many friends, not just Russia. The West has basically allowed Russia to fund Assad due to concerns over what might happen if ISIS is victorious. If Obama had wanted Assad's regime finished, he would have finished it.
The greatest irony about Syria is people think Assad is a hero for fighting the west, not realizing they actually have an arrangement of sorts, and it's the Sunni world that is basically funding the rebellion. The west funds the Syrian Opposition just enough to keep them from losing.

For the west, Syria is the perfect conflict. Al-Qaeda, Russia, Iran and Hezbollah will all exhaust each other with butchery and bloodshed over a meaningless conflict in order to satisfy the ego of a single man and his palaces in Damascus.
Exactly, I read in a premium geopolitics magazine that America wants perpertual civil war in Syria, basically they want to keep all parties armed just enough to fight each other but not enough to overcome the war. It's described as the "grand slaughterhouse", and this is why FSA and the SNC have failed to harness any viable legitmacy on the ground in Syria. Unfortunately America is steadily failing to grasp that Russia and Iran's increased military assistance to Assad will infuriarate it's gulf allies particularly Saudi Arabia. They are frustrated that they cannot resolve the situation as fast as they would like it to be, this is causing dissent within the royal family, with some contemplating to cut off ties with America, but this will unlikely happen as the Kingdom as a critical internal juncture. Some are saying that a coup may occur within the royal family, worrying facts and foreshadowing a caliphate coming.

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Re: New Cold War?

Postby grandpakhalif » Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:49 pm

I have no sympathy for Russia, it must be demolished and it's regime dismantled, they have kept Assad on a lifeline and continue to aid him with weapons and logistics. Let's not forget their slaughter of Checnyans pre-Sochi games, too "secure the games".
disposal puppets, with no understanding of the world around them, commanded to action by remote control do not have the right to speak.
My your emotions got to you, Russia is Christian Orthodox and America is Christian, daresay why should I cheer for either one of them?

Slavs hate blick people like you, little do you know Neo-Nazis have the highest presence in the world in Russia, it's people like them who back ex-KGB Putin.

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Re: New Cold War?

Postby James Dahl » Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:49 pm

The Saudis need the USA more than the USA needs the Saudis. The Kingdom has a lot of internal dissent with all the Shias in al-Haasa and anti-Wahhabi Sunnis in Hijaz, and the Saudi worst nightmare is a Haasa rebellion and Iran crossing the border to "protect" them. Maybe even Shia Iraq assisting them.

Most of the Saudis openly hate the USA, but they have no choice, the USA is the only country that would care if Saudi Arabia was invaded and destroyed by Iran, many of their neighbors would celebrate.

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Re: New Cold War?

Postby gurey25 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:55 pm

I have no sympathy for Russia, it must be demolished and it's regime dismantled, they have kept Assad on a lifeline and continue to aid him with weapons and logistics. Let's not forget their slaughter of Checnyans pre-Sochi games, too "secure the games".
disposal puppets, with no understanding of the world around them, commanded to action by remote control do not have the right to speak.
My your emotions got to you, Russia is Christian Orthodox and America is Christian, daresay why should I cheer for either one of them?

Slavs hate blick people like you, little do you know Neo-Nazis have the highest presence in the world in Russia, it's people like them who back ex-KGB Putin.
you serve the devil i.e House of Saud
Putin is another kafir but his interests align with the future of the muslim world.
just a coincidence , nothing personal

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Re: New Cold War?

Postby Bermooda » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:40 pm

An interesting article for those who want to know what is going on behind the scene

Ukraine is a nation of 45 million people. It is a former eastern bloc country, and shares it’s Eastern border with Russia. On the West it shares borders with Romania, Moldova, Belarus, Slovakia and Poland. Almost all of which are now EU member states. Since it declared independence from the Soviet Union in 1991, the country has remained politically divided along ethnic and linguistic lines between the broadly Ukrainian speaking North, and Russian speaking South.

So, however the West or Russia might feel about it, there is a genuine and very close two way split in Ukraine about where it’s loyalties should lay

Is this a US backed coup? The US has significant form in destablising nations as part of its geo-political efforts, so this idea is not one to be dismissed out of hand.

It is generally accepted that the US has been directly responsible for the removal of 7 governments; Iran (1953) , Guatemala (1954), Congo (1960), Dominican Republic (1961), South Vietnam (1963), Brazil (1964), Chile (1973). But in recent years the US has led invasions under the pretext of humanitarian interventions that have removed political opponents across the Middle East in Iraq, Afghanistan, Mali and Libya And that is just the icing on the cake

Are the protesters pro-democracy rebels and freedom fighters?

The origins of the protests could certainly be described as centering largely on pro-democracy, pro EU, anti-Russian sentiment – and were largely peaceful. They echoed the Orange Revolution. However, it has been quietly glossed over in the majority of western media outlets, that in recent weeks (as violence has escalated) the heart of the movement is a Ukrainian nationalism that whispers fascism
Eat your hearth James Dahl this is what your gov has resulted to :down:

The leader of the far-right Svoboda party, Oleh Tyahnybok, regularly appears alongside Mr Klitschko as one of the key protest participants.The west main man


A recently leaked audio recording (most likely obtained by the Russians) captured a revealing conversation between the Assistant US Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and and US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt further stoked concerns of US involvement. Western media headlines focussed on Nuland’s dismissal of the EU with her line ‘Fuck the EU’ during the chat – but of more interest outside the West was the content of the conversation, with the two seemingly planning out who was going to be included in the future Ukraine government, and how they were going to get that to stick.

Also for those who don't know EU is just Americas B!TCH. YEAH THEY FCUK THEM RIGHT :lol:


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Re: New Cold War?

Postby skywalker25 » Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:46 am

Creating a "good guy, bad guy" narrative, you assume whoever is opposing the Bad Guy (always the nebulous "west"), must be the Good Guy.

There is no such thing as a Good Guy in geopolitics, everyone is out for themselves, you just have varying degrees of selfish interest and varying levels of brutality in how far they are willing to go to achieve their national interests. Russia has been aggressively projecting their power all over the world to counter a veritable legion of rebellions against their puppet regimes, which is not very different from what George W Bush did throughout his presidency, but he's against the west so it's a heroic struggle against evil, not an iron fist smushing dissent.

In this respect, people cheerleading Vladimir Putin are no better than the people who went on Fox News in 2004 saying all the torture and bombing and brutality was all in self defense and for the best possible purposes.
You cant compare Russia which is playing a defensive game to the west which is on the offensive. Putin is not innocent but compared to the west with its invasions of sovereign nations and removing elected leaders. Not to mention all the drone killings and kidnappings, oh, and who can forget that little place in Cuba called Gitmo -only for muslims, mind you. So when you add all that together your case against Putin looks a little silly...

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Re: New Cold War?

Postby GalliumerianSlayer » Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:57 pm

Not surprised if Ukraine does split since Western Ukraine wants the EU while Eastern wants Russia ( well the East is made up of Russians after all)


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