Ukraine, can WW3 be on it's way? 100 years after WW1?

[James Dahl]

There won't be WW3 over Crimea, Russia will threaten to cut off oil and gas to Europe, Europe and America will threaten economic sanctions on Russia, Ukraine will demand Russia leave Crimea, Russia will sponsor an "independence referendum" in Crimea (which will technically only barely pass but "90% will vote for"), no-one else will recognize this new state, Ukraine will be forced to invade Crimea (like Georgia in 2008) and will lose since they have no allies. The USA and EU will impose sanctions on Russia which will cripple their economy (damaging Europe as well, but guess who else is exporting oil and gas in massive amounts, you guessed it, America) but at least they have Sevastopol!

[InoCabdi]

lol Russia has a long history and empires.
America was developed under 200 yrs ago.

ppl in north America are so naïve.

Created in such a short time and look what it is now..... every country is America's little bitch. Even its former colony has to align its foreign policy to that of Washington's. Cameron can't move without Obama's consent

Zuberi, take that ridiculous list out of here. Even tiny Canada has a larger economy than Russia. I will address only a few of your points since im on my cell. Moscows billionaires are not self made. After the fall of the USSR, the elite took over many of the land and resources and made a fortune for themselves. The govt appeased to them and only expected their political support in return. Moscoe is expensive because of the corruptbillionaires. The average monthly Russian salary is $800. Try surviving in expensive Moscow with $800

As for transit systems, Americans prefer to drive which explains the smaller metro systems.

Most are stupid points anyway.

Anyone who thinks Russia is a threat to US is deluded


I am,

Abdi "You're all wishful but desperate" Johnson

USA lost to vietnam.
USA lost in the bay of pigs invasion.

USA would have invaded a long time ago, but they didnt.

[Thuganomics]

I gurantee you the west won't do fuck all.They'll pay the Ukrainians bit of lip service.Maybe mention something about sanctions and mumble on about diplomatic pressures and blah blah.Laakiin as far as a military confrontation,hell no they'll sell them out just like they did with Georgia..They only bully third world countries that they know have no chance against them in armed combat.Just like the archytypal bully in the play ground

[mcali]

Are you guys high or something?

Russia is a world power. Not every country on earth bends its back for the West.

Did you forget greatest ally?

[GeoSeven]

A third World War between nations with long range nuclear capabilities would be MAD (Mutually Assure Destruction). We'll all perish.

[SultanOrder]

I want to wholeheartedly believe that we are past the ages of major wars between world super powers, but history has shown that wars between superpowers are often and come at unexpected times. We humans just don't change, and it is very easy to mobilize masses to wage wars for very insignificant reasons like WW1, but I doubt and hope it wont happen now.

As far as I can tell, Russia ain't going nowhere out of Crimea, but I doubt very much it will go into eastern Ukrain where there are majority Russians. I think what will happen is that the Ukrainian regime will be very practical and workout some kind of deal with Russia. No matter how much Europe barks, Russia is right there, is more united politically, has the support of it's people, and has more willpower to act in a military and economical way that benefits it. Russia will say to Europe, back off Ukraine, you have tried to take the little fish like Lithuania, Lativia, etc, but Ukraine is not something we will lie down and let you walk over us for. Europe will get the message, and they will be ok with Ukraine to not be in the EU, but instead a bridge.

Ultimately Ukraine's best option is to be the bridge between Europe and Russia which is the bridge between China and the Stans with their vast natural resources. Things will calm down soon, as Ukraine sobers. Crimea is not a real issue.

[Bermooda]

Mr Johnson sit down you have no clue what is going on this is Russia's backyard. Militarily the West is stronger but the bears have over 10,000 NB that can reach each and every of their towns.

What you are witnessing is Georgia 2.0

[eliteSomali]

Remember, if it wasn't for Russia, Hitler would have never lost. Russia can hold it's own against America and there's no doubt about that. Russians are more fierce in combat than the coward Americans.

[SultanOrder]

When being "fierce" cost you 15 million lives, I don't know how good it is to be "fierce".

[eliteSomali]

First of all the figure was more than 15 million. Secondly, they would have lost more had they not done what they did. Americans will not die by the millions for something as trivial as crimea. America has not won a single war to date. When shit gets real, they pull out. They did it in Vietnam, Afghanistan, iraq and probably would in Crimea if this thing escalated. Americans don't like to die in wars but they want to wars.

[SultanOrder]

Yes, and the 5 or 6 million that Stalin killed during his purges was justified.

America wins wars with less lives. Russia has waged war other than immediate areas like chechniya, Afghanistand, and they lost even more lives than the americans, and they still lost.

[eliteSomali]

Those were mini wars. War is where men die and Russia doesn't mind sacrificing men to achieve their objectives as oppose to the United States. The U.S will deploy fleets and hundreds of jets to a remote village in Africa if they were to attack it. Americans are a joke. They got served in the war of 1812, the white house was burned and the president barely escaped. They got served in WW2 and died like flies until the Russian joined the war. They got served in Vietnam. Iran served them when they helped iraq in the 70s. They got served in Afghanistan and finally in Iraq. Despite having the upper hand in terms of technology, they have not won a single war. Waa iska booto.

[SultanOrder]

Dude, America wasn't in the war until about 6 months after the Germans blitz into Russia. Russia wouldn't of survived if it wasn't for America giving thing tons of millitary aide, and Russians going so far as to come to America to learn how to streamline production.

And don't forget how many lives America was willing to loose in a war that lasted nearly 10 years in Vietnam.

[Caashaqa]

America and NATO will easily crush Russia. Russia is still living on its reputation from the Soviet Union. The West about to finish Russia’s last remaining former client state as Syria is basically destroyed today.

I don’t know why people here support Russia. They are vile racist who hate Muslims and Blacks. Plus just from “political” pressure from Israel and America; they abandoned sale of S300 to Iran. Russians are snakes and shouldn't be trusted

YOU ARE ASKING SOMALIS TO ACT IN THEIR BEST INTEREST WHEN HAVE THEY EVER DONE THAT IN THEIR HISTORY SOMALIS WOULD RATHER SIDE WITH ETHIOPIA BECAUSE THEY HATE ANOTHER CLAN HERE THEY ARE SUPPORTING RUSSIA WHICH BETRAYED SOMALIA AND SIDED WITH ETHIOPIA DURING THE OGADEN WAR HERE THEY ARE SUPPORTING RUSSIA WHICH HAS KILLED THOUSANDS OF MUSLIMS IN CHECHNYA AND LEVELED CITIES WHILE AMERICA HAS GIVEN A HOMELAND TO THOUSANDS OF SOMALIS, HAS GIVEN BILLIONS IN AID TO SOMALIA IF TODAY RUSSIA BECAME THE WORLD SUPERPOWER I GUARANTEE YOU WE WOULD ALL BE DOOMED THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE ARE EVIL,SOULLESS, RACIST BASTARDS WHO NEED TO BE NUKED

[eliteSomali]

Dude, America wasn't in the war until about 6 months after the Germans blitz into Russia. Russia wouldn't of survived if it wasn't for America giving thing tons of millitary aide, and Russians going so far as to come to America to learn how to streamline production.

And don't forget how many lives America was willing to loose in a war that lasted nearly 10 years in Vietnam.

Fair enough. Is the U.S in any position to be telling Russia to not have military presence in Crimea? I mean just look at how many countries the U.S currently occupies. Practically all of middle east is theirs. So much hypocrisy because obama is telling the Russians to "respect" international laws but somehow those laws don't apply to the U.S. They invade and drone whoever they want and when ever they want. I don't think America should be the one talking.