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Missing Malaysia Airline MH370...what r your theories?

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Re: Missing Malaysia Airline MH370...what r your theories?

Postby zulaika » Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:32 pm

Why?
Because this whole thing stinks of foul play and cover up on the airlines part and I would want my family to know they are not simply brushed off with a sorry ass excuse as "plane ended" this isn't efffin movie..where the horror beings at the end.

And yes money may not bring the dead back but it might help lessen the grief of carrying on..

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Re: Missing Malaysia Airline MH370...what r your theories?

Postby Lillaahiya » Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:37 pm

So you'd want to be compensated when there is no clear explanation of what happened because you have an inkling of foul play? Yeah, life ain't a movie boo.

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Re: Missing Malaysia Airline MH370...what r your theories?

Postby zulaika » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:01 pm

The airline most likely has an insurance policy on their fleets which they most undoubtably will claim against the "loss" of their dearly departed jet, and the mere mortals onboard.

Aviation accidents entail compensations, be it faulty or "act of God"

But I'm surprised how easy you'd dismiss the suffering of the families..and only consider their grief "legitimate" only after cause has been determined. enough distress has been caused...lives changed...and that's real and should be compensated

Loss of Enjoyment of Life Legal Definition:
Damages claimed based on alleged detrimental alterations of a person's life or lifestyle or a person's inability to participate in the activities or pleasures of life that were formerly enjoyed.

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Re: Missing Malaysia Airline MH370...what r your theories?

Postby Lillaahiya » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:39 pm

I'm not trying to be dismissive or not recognize others suffering, but I won't delude myself into thinking an international airline or any MNC would freely give out heaps of money for an 'accident' that hasn't been proven to be their 'fault'. You're saying the families deserve millions, and maybe they do, but in this case, it's entirely up the airline's discretion. I also think it's unfair to speak on the behalf of the families and argue that the 5k, in your opinion, doesn't suffice. For some maybe it does :Shrug:

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Re: Missing Malaysia Airline MH370...what r your theories?

Postby zulaika » Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:16 pm

Lill'

You're probably right in the sense of not expecting too much in the likely case I face similar tragedy. But I don't speak out of delusion and more in line aviation accident regulations, compensation based on loss of life less of probable cause...the figure to increase when cause is determined and airline assumes liability. $5000 is ludicrous and way below the par of suitable remuneration. And after reading more on this, it seems Malaysia Airline agrees .. Finally they came to their senses, phew!

And finally as u said, it maybe unfair on my part to speak on behalf of the families, but I think they'd prefer me as their lawyer than u don't u think? $5000 vs $1mill :mrgreen:


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Malaysia Airlines' $5,000 payment is just the beginning
NEW YORK (CNNMoney)
Malaysia Airlines offered initial financial assistance to the families of Flight 370 passengers on Tuesday, and promised that additional compensation was being prepared.
The payments of $5,000 per passenger should help families cope with the immediate financial strain caused by a long search for the plane. But the airline is eventually likely to pay next of kin compensation that ranges into the millions of dollars per passenger.

Under an international treaty known as the Montreal Convention, the airline must pay relatives of each deceased passenger an initial sum of around $150,000 to $175,000.
Relatives of victims can also sue for further damages -- unless the airline can prove that it took all necessary measures to prevent a crash or any other incident that prevented passengers from arriving safely.
Liability could also stretch beyond the airline to the plane's manufacturer, Boeing, if a mechanical flaw is ruled the cause. But that would be difficult to prove if the plane is not recovered.
Monica Kelly, an attorney at Ribbeck Law Chartered who plans to file suit against Malaysia Airlines and Boeing, told CNNMoney last week that based on her experience, families could receive between $400,000 and $3 million in damages.
A lot depends on where the lawsuits are filed. Plaintiffs tend to be awarded much larger sums in U.S. courts than in other countries, said Mike Danko, an aviation lawyer with Danko Meredith who estimates some awards could be as large as $8 million.
Uncertainty about the passengers' fate could slow the legal process. But if months go by with no sign of the passengers, most countries will allow judges to rule that a passenger is presumed dead, allowing claims to move forward, including life insurance and other other end-of-life matters.
Brian Havel, a law professor and director of the International Aviation Law Institute at DePaul University, said most claims will be settled out of court.
Any lawsuits will likely unfold in several countries since people of 14 different nationalities were on board the flight. U.S. attorneys were on the ground in Beijing last week, where many of the families are awaiting news of their loved ones in a hotel.
Many of Malaysia Airlines' expenses will be covered by the maze of insurance policies that cover a plane and its passengers. Coverage averages between $2 billion and $2.5 billion per aircraft, including about $10 million per passenger, Havel said.
The first claims for the missing airliner itself have already been paid. Insurer Allianz Global Corporate & Specialty said last week that it and other firms "have made initial payments" of an unspecified amount on so-called hull and liability policies that are part of "our contractual obligations where an aircraft is reported as missing."
By Gregory Wallace, Michael Tarson and Charles Riley, March 25, 2014: 06:26 AM ET

http://money.cnn.com/2014/03/25/news/ma ... pensation/

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Re: Missing Malaysia Airline MH370...what r your theories?

Postby Lillaahiya » Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:21 pm

unless the airline can prove that it took all necessary measures to prevent a crash or any other incident that prevented passengers from arriving safely.
^ There's the loop hole :Shrug: I think they'll get away with paying 150-175k.

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Re: Missing Malaysia Airline MH370...what r your theories?

Postby zulaika » Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:43 pm

Perhaps... but remember, that's the base pay, trust me they will pay more for PR related purpose and to save face, given the airlines, in concert with the Malaysian government's "less than compassionate" treatment of passenger families, most of whom are of Chinese nationality, and notably a good chunk of their ticket sales. The Chinese are now angry and protesting at the Malaysian embassy in Beijing....and did I mention the media backlash that ensued including western media?....Yeah, it's pretty safe to say they will pay more to recover consumer confidence.

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Re: Missing Malaysia Airline MH370...what r your theories?

Postby Marques » Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:43 am

Wax wax kaa fajiyo waa geel ma maqashay Lil :lol: Case in point if the Malaysians want the victims relatives to put a sock in it they need to dish out the P and 5k dollars is childs play.

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Re: Missing Malaysia Airline MH370...what r your theories?

Postby Lillaahiya » Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:42 pm

^ I still think they'll pay the minimum amount to save face.

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Re: Missing Malaysia Airline MH370...what r your theories?

Postby Marques » Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:29 pm

Signal from the aircraft was detected...but they've now got a few days before this lead becomes fruitless (the battery of the black box is close to dying out)

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Re: Missing Malaysia Airline MH370...what r your theories?

Postby SultanOrder » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:50 am

I'm reminded by the show Lost :lol:

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Re: Missing Malaysia Airline MH370...what r your theories?

Postby XimanJaale » Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:12 am

The crew and passengers are alive.

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Re: Missing Malaysia Airline MH370...what r your theories?

Postby FarhanYare » Sun Apr 13, 2014 1:10 am

the airline is eventually likely to pay next of kin compensation that ranges into the millions of dollars per passenger.
:whew:

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Re: Missing Malaysia Airline MH370...what r your theories?

Postby Alshabaibe » Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:37 am

that plane flew straight into ya'juj wa ma'juj realm, lagayaba kuwi kudhex jiray inay burta la dig gareyneyan imika, its why their phones are still ringing. Someone should text to say "in shaa Allah' is the word.


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