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Re: Average city incomes for individual Somalis in US dollar

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 3:09 pm
by Octavius
Yes I have work experience...

Experience is gained and not given; if you are not willing to gain the work experience, then how do you expect to get a job? if you feel particularly disadvantaged by your lack of work experience you can do summer internships, an industrial placement and send e-mails to the HR departments of the major organisations within your field, detailing your knowledge, skills and experience and informing them that you are available for unpaid work experience.

You will always need to be beat the other applicants, there will always be competition.

Good luck, i was in you shoes not long ago, f you need any advice pm me :up:

Re: Average city incomes for individual Somalis in US dollar

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:22 pm
by thehappyone
Octavius is one of the lucky ones who got his foot through the door. Once you get your first half decent job, there will be many employers willing to take you on, but most of us arent so lucky, our work history is patchy, full of gaps and unrelated work experience, good references are hard to come by cause we never performed at our shitty jobs, getting our foot through the door becomes harder the older we get. My older brother doesn't even have gcse's, but one time he was lucky to get a job at one of the major companies and he's not struggled finding work since. Just say alhamdulilah and don't patronise us peasants.

Edit, internships/apprenticeships/work experiences go to school leavers/undergraduates not adult jobseekers

Re: Average city incomes for individual Somalis in US dollar

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:05 pm
by KyrieJama
I make more money than the average Somali in London, and i'm in Hargeisa. I prolly get shaxaaded more tho. :lol:

Re: Average city incomes for individual Somalis in US dollar

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:10 pm
by Octavius
Octavius is one of the lucky ones who got his foot through the door. Once you get your first half decent job, there will be many employers willing to take you on, but most of us arent so lucky, our work history is patchy, full of gaps and unrelated work experience, good references are hard to come by cause we never performed at our shitty jobs, getting our foot through the door becomes harder the older we get. My older brother doesn't even have gcse's, but one time he was lucky to get a job at one of the major companies and he's not struggled finding work since. Just say alhamdulilah and don't patronise us peasants.

Edit, internships/apprenticeships/work experiences go to school leavers/undergraduates not adult jobseekers
Look... I have recruited people myself. This is what you need to do:

- Fill out the application form properly. Devote hours to it. Proof read it. Re-write it. Adapt your application to each job you apply for. Tell them what they want to hear.

- Make up work experience, as long as its believable; no one checks, the recruiting company only checks your references, one of which will need to be your last emploer and maybe your degree. No one has time or the resourcesto check all applicants' work history with all their former employers. Tell them you went to f-king Somalia and ran a company there for 6 months if that is what it takes - how are they going to disprove that? You will find a job much quicker this way. Change your attitude and seize your life by the horns.

- Perform well in your interview. Speak properly, pronounce every letter in every word. Smile. Joke. Do or say or be something memorable. Be confident. Endear yourself to the interviewing panel.

- Every bit of work experience counts. No one checks what you did in your previous jobs, turn a simple job like making tea into the most elaborate and complicated project ever undertaken.

- If your too old to apply for internships or industrial placements, do volunteering (work for free), or 'enhance' your work experience on paper using your words and your wit... remember that voluntary work you did with the Somali Community Association for 6 months ;)

- If you lack reliable referees, you can create them quite easily by using your network. Every person you know is a potential referee. Perhaps one of your family members 'happens' to sometimes use a different surname and 'happens' to be at the other end of the telephone/email of the Somali Community Association where you 'worked' voluntary for 6 months

- If youre really find it a challenge to find a job, attend job fair & small business networking events... they hand out jobs like sweets.
Good luck.

Re: Average city incomes for individual Somalis in US dollar

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:16 pm
by STARKAST
Octavius, good job, with that advice no one has excuses in not finding work.
Somalis in north america are richest because they have been living the west the longest.

Re: Average city incomes for individual Somalis in US dollar

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:19 pm
by Octavius
Few ethnic Somali groups hav been living in the West as long as the Somali community has been living in the UK, especially in the port cities.

Re: Average city incomes for individual Somalis in US dollar

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:22 pm
by STARKAST
They were mostly labourers, its hard to move up the ladder when your black in the 1900s.
Somalis actually fought in the Battle of Cable Street for their rights. in 1936.

Re: Average city incomes for individual Somalis in US dollar

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:44 pm
by thehappyone

Look... I have recruited people myself. This is what you need to do:

- Fill out the application form properly. Devote hours to it. Proof read it. Re-write it. Adapt your application to each job you apply for. Tell them what they want to hear.

- Make up work experience, as long as its believable; no one checks, the recruiting company only checks your references, one of which will need to be your last emploer and maybe your degree. No one has time or the resourcesto check all applicants' work history with all their former employers. Tell them you went to f-king Somalia and ran a company there for 6 months if that is what it takes - how are they going to disprove that? You will find a job much quicker this way. Change your attitude and seize your life by the horns.

- Perform well in your interview. Speak properly, pronounce every letter in every word. Smile. Joke. Do or say or be something memorable. Be confident. Endear yourself to the interviewing panel.

- Every bit of work experience counts. No one checks what you did in your previous jobs, turn a simple job like making tea into the most elaborate and complicated project ever undertaken.

- If your too old to apply for internships or industrial placements, do volunteering (work for free), or 'enhance' your work experience on paper using your words and your wit... remember that voluntary work you did with the Somali Community Association for 6 months ;)

- If you lack reliable referees, you can create them quite easily by using your network. Every person you know is a potential referee. Perhaps one of your family members 'happens' to sometimes use a different surname and 'happens' to be at the other end of the telephone/email of the Somali Community Association where you 'worked' voluntary for 6 months

- If youre really find it a challenge to find a job, attend job fair & small business networking events... they hand out jobs like sweets.
Good luck.
:up: I'll let u know how it goes

Re: Average city incomes for individual Somalis in US dollar

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:48 pm
by Methylamine
If you Brits are having trouble finding work, hop on a plane and come across the pond. Plenty of jobs here, especially in Western Canada where there's more jobs than people lol.

Re: Average city incomes for individual Somalis in US dollar

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:51 pm
by garoweboy
I make more money than the average Somali in London, and i'm in Hargeisa. I prolly get shaxaaded more tho. :lol:
How long have you been there now?

Re: Average city incomes for individual Somalis in US dollar

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:53 pm
by Octavius
If you Brits are having trouble finding work, hop on a plane and come across the pond. Plenty of jobs here, especially in Western Canada where there's more jobs than people lol.
That cold god forsaken place, no thanks. :damn:

Re: Average city incomes for individual Somalis in US dollar

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:02 pm
by Methylamine
If you Brits are having trouble finding work, hop on a plane and come across the pond. Plenty of jobs here, especially in Western Canada where there's more jobs than people lol.
That cold god forsaken place, no thanks. :damn:
Ma gabadh baad tahay, can't handle the cold? University graduates are being offered $100K+ jobs out there, while master's students in London can't even get an interview at Chicken Cottage Image

Re: Average city incomes for individual Somalis in US dollar

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:05 pm
by Octavius
What about postgrad 5+ yrs experience, how much are we talking :tellmemore:

Re: Average city incomes for individual Somalis in US dollar

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:19 pm
by Methylamine
What about postgrad 5+ yrs experience, how much are we talking :tellmemore:
Depends on your field, but what I can tell you I personally know people who got jobs immediately after graduation. Most sectors are in demand, especially engineering

Re: Average city incomes for individual Somalis in US dollar

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:04 pm
by Ismail87
Somalis are known for being lazy bastards and they don't last very long either. I usually give them 6 months :down:
:damn: Source??
For safety purposes, the source has chosen to remain anonymous
:troll: