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Do you believe in law of Nature??

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Re: Do you believe in law of Nature??

Postby Octavius » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:09 pm

Basra what are your views on interracial marriage?

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Re: Do you believe in law of Nature??

Postby SultanOrder » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:10 pm

Amira I don't know to what extent Martyrs are preserved so I wouldn't know how to compare them but I know this phenomenon is not unique to muslims.

Elite, I don't know saxib maybe I am just confused. I've seen plenty of good people who do righteous work and I can see the Imaan in their eyes, and I believe that God is ever in their hearts even though they are not muslims.

As for miracles yes I believe in them, and I see no reason why they should not be present when someone who had performed them dies, because I believe Allah is the one that performs them and He never dies.

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Re: Do you believe in law of Nature??

Postby sconosciuto » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:15 pm

Arabman :lol: :lol:

You had me thinking your ban was indefinite. :tocry:

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Re: Do you believe in law of Nature??

Postby eliteSomali » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:16 pm

PO: People can be good and have morals without never having heard of Islam. That is something I'll agree with but people cannot be doing good deeds if they are't muslims. Allah says there are good people from the ahlu kitaab aka jews and christians who give to the needy and overall do good things but since their intentions are not for allah, then it doesn't matter. I think this was what you were getting at. If it is not for Allah it doesn't count. Simple as that.

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Re: Do you believe in law of Nature??

Postby Basra- » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:17 pm

Octa


I have no problem with interracial marriage, provided you marry UP, not DOWN. (I mean, genetically) It is OK to marry a white man, an Arab provided they are also MUSLIM. Improvement of Genetics is important. You cannot marry an adoon. I will not respect nephews or nieces that have adoon noses. :eat: (but that don't mean, I wont love them, they just wont be my favorites, and if u r not my favorite, u lose a lot . lol) :clap:

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Re: Do you believe in law of Nature??

Postby Amira143 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:29 pm

Amira I don't know to what extent Martyrs are preserved so I wouldn't know how to compare them but I know this phenomenon is not unique to muslims.

Elite, I don't know saxib maybe I am just confused. I've seen plenty of good people who do righteous work and I can see the Imaan in their eyes, and I believe that God is ever in their hearts even though they are not muslims.

As for miracles yes I believe in them, and I see no reason why they should not be present when someone who had performed them dies, because I believe Allah is the one that performs them and He never dies.

Indeed you sound very confused walal, reevaluate your iman.


Al-Anfal [8:23] Had Allah known of any good in them He would have made them hear, but had He made them hear they would have turned away, averse.

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Re: Do you believe in law of Nature??

Postby Octavius » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:35 pm

Basra have you ever been racially abused or discriminated against?

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Re: Do you believe in law of Nature??

Postby Amira143 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:36 pm

PO: People can be good and have morals without never having heard of Islam. That is something I'll agree with but people cannot be doing good deeds if they are't muslims. Allah says there are good people from the ahlu kitaab aka jews and christians who give to the needy and overall do good things but since their intentions are not for allah, then it doesn't matter. I think this was what you were getting at. If it is not for Allah it doesn't count. Simple as that.


Allah isn't unjust and does reward the good deeds of the nonbelievers. They're rewarded in the dunya rather then in akhirah where it would more beneficial. Allah knows best.

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Re: Do you believe in law of Nature??

Postby SultanOrder » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:39 pm

Elite, we shall see when Allah judges, there definitely will be some surprises in store for all of us.

Amira, I don't know what your point is, you asked me if non Muslims could be peserved like martyrs I said possibly. I've never seen how martyrs look like since we bury them and don't exhume them, but other faiths have exhumed their saints and have put them on display showing almost no decay or decomposition. That is a fact walaal.

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Re: Do you believe in law of Nature??

Postby Basra- » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:39 pm

Octa

Surprisingly -Never. If I have-- I didn't catch it. :stylin: But I have witnessed racism on other people, example Africans whom I worked with recently. I never worked with Africans or black people before. After the recession, I changed careers and find myself with minorities. I see racism directed at them on a daily basis. It disturbs me actually. For me, I have seen only pleasant results, I have had promotions, raise---and everybody is gravitated towards me. Both men and women like me. And I attribute that to my looks walaahi. I am not self boasting. I truly believe in America-- how u look matters. :dj:


I have co workers whom I go out lunch with, and they waiters are rude to them. They have nasty stares, and throw change at them. TO me-- they smile, and wish me a great day! That is usually a sign of clear discrimination. :lol:

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Re: Do you believe in law of Nature??

Postby Casanova25 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:46 pm

PO: People can be good and have morals without never having heard of Islam. That is something I'll agree with but people cannot be doing good deeds if they are't muslims. Allah says there are good people from the ahlu kitaab aka jews and christians who give to the needy and overall do good things but since their intentions are not for allah, then it doesn't matter. I think this was what you were getting at. If it is not for Allah it doesn't count. Simple as that.


Allah isn't unjust and does reward the good deeds of the nonbelievers. They're rewarded in the dunya rather then in akhirah where it would more beneficial. Allah knows best.
You said the truth but there is crazy people on snet... Some of them have secretly left islam long time ago but still hide in here as muslims..

they are advertising for christianity openly now but still hide there faith.. bc of fear of discriminations
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Re: Do you believe in law of Nature??

Postby Basra- » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:47 pm

PO: People can be good and have morals without never having heard of Islam. That is something I'll agree with but people cannot be doing good deeds if they are't muslims. Allah says there are good people from the ahlu kitaab aka jews and christians who give to the needy and overall do good things but since their intentions are not for allah, then it doesn't matter. I think this was what you were getting at. If it is not for Allah it doesn't count. Simple as that.


Allah isn't unjust and does reward the good deeds of the nonbelievers. They're rewarded in the dunya rather then in akhirah where it would more beneficial. Allah knows best.
You said the truth but there is crazy people on snet... Some of them have secretly left islam long time ago but still hide in here as muslims..

like u gurey25. :D

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Re: Do you believe in law of Nature??

Postby AgentOfChaos » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:47 pm

How the fuck is this even a debate?

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Re: Do you believe in law of Nature??

Postby grandpakhalif » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:57 pm

Those are embalmed bodies PO, they are not really preserved by god..

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Re: Do you believe in law of Nature??

Postby NoThatAbdi » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:02 pm

whenever you die you get buried or lets say gravity whenever you throw A stone its all about the force you put behind it or if you touch fire it will burn you..

Yes, Law of Nature exist but its not a Law that can't be removed by those who made it..

There is over 1000 cases reported about shuhada(martyrs) bodies that didn't decompose some of them have been buried 4 years or more there bodies was still the same as if they had died hours ago and they had the smell of musk coming from there bodies..

what its interesting is that some men opened the grave of Hamza 46 years later he has still the same...

the Westernes are Interested in this case
Red Cross: Taliban bodies do not decay!
The committee of the American Red Cross has released a report on its webpage regarding the bodies of the dead (martyred) Taliban compared to those of the foreign forces. The mentioned committee which had the duty of collecting and burying the dead in Mazar Sharif province of Afghanistan showed its astonishment as to why the dead bodies of Taliban had not decayed

or gave off foul smell?!! The report said that investigators initially thought that the cold weather was the reason behind this phenomenon however this theory was later shattered because the bodies of the northern alliance fighters which were lying in the same area had decayed and were also giving off a nauseating smell.

The report further says that it now wants to conduct a research on the type of food consumed by the Taliban fighters! The researchers also want to find out if there is a relationship between food and blood because the blood of some Taliban members keeps its warm temperatures even after their death!
Read more at


This proofs to us, that we have been denying or being blind to this mystery...
Seriously wtf? Do we really have to grasp at straws in order to believe the Qu'ran is the word of God.


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