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Why are the jihadis of today the most sinful people?

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Re: Why are the jihadis of today the most sinful people?

Postby sconosciuto » Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:18 am

Yh for other reasons not because they are doing a so-called Jihad. They might to paradise because simply they have helped out hungry cat once during their lifetime. :|
They could go to paradise for their so-called jihad. Ultimately, only Allah knows, and I'm sure you agree that.

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Re: Why are the jihadis of today the most sinful people?

Postby XimanJaale » Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:21 am

They could go to paradise for their so-called jihad. Ultimately, only Allah knows, and I'm sure you agree that.
Allah has made things Black and White. Every thing is clear in Islam. Killing innocent people, causing a fitna war and being a extremist can lead one to hellfire. So no they cannot go to paradise for their so-called jihad.

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Re: Why are the jihadis of today the most sinful people?

Postby sconosciuto » Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:28 am

Allah has made things Black and White. Every thing is clear in Islam. Killing innocent people, causing a fitna war and being a extremist can lead one to hellfire. So no they cannot go to paradise for their so-called jihad.
Despite their actions, only Allah knows who will go to hellfire or paradise. I know a former Somali leader who killed innocent people, including unarmed and peaceful wadaads, but only Allah knows if he's gonna end up in hellfire or paradise.

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Re: Why are the jihadis of today the most sinful people?

Postby XimanJaale » Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:31 am

Despite their actions, only Allah knows who will go to hellfire or paradise. I know a former Somali leader who killed innocent people, including unarmed and peaceful wadaads, but only Allah knows if he's gonna end up in hellfire or paradise.
Yes I already said despite their bad actions (the so-called jihad) some of them can go to paradise for other reason, depends on what they did during their lifetime. But my main point is that the so-called jihad is a sin and can lead one to hell-fire, will you not agree to this?

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Re: Why are the jihadis of today the most sinful people?

Postby sconosciuto » Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:44 am

But my main point is that the so-called jihad is a sin and can lead one to hell-fire, will you not agree to this?
I disagree, 'cause the so-called jihad can be a genuine jihad that can lead one to paradise, and you and me don't know that.

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Re: Why are the jihadis of today the most sinful people?

Postby XimanJaale » Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:47 am

I disagree, 'cause the so-called jihad can be a genuine jihad that can lead one to paradise, and you and me don't know that.
Again Islam is very clear. The so-called jihad cannot be a genuine jihad unless the person doing the jihad was brainwashed into believing it was a genuine jihad.

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Re: Why are the jihadis of today the most sinful people?

Postby sconosciuto » Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:55 am

Again Islam is very clear. The so-called jihad cannot be a genuine jihad unless the person doing the jihad was brainwashed into believing it was a genuine jihad.
Only Allah knows that it's a genuine jihad. Do you disagree?

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Re: Why are the jihadis of today the most sinful people?

Postby XimanJaale » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:39 pm

Only Allah knows that it's a genuine jihad. Do you disagree?
Allah has already told us what a genuine jihad is. There is no jihad in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan and Somalia according to the teachings of the Quran and Prophet. :|

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Re: Why are the jihadis of today the most sinful people?

Postby XimanJaale » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:42 pm

Like I said never trust a extremist with fake jihad ideology, they are not really pious and genuine but really sinners and liars. Look at this so-called Jihadi, look at how he speaks to his supposedly Muslim sister:
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Re: Why are the jihadis of today the most sinful people?

Postby sconosciuto » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:45 pm

Allah has already told us what a genuine jihad is. There is no jihad in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan and Somalia according to the teachings of the Quran and Prophet. :|
Defending one's country from foreign & non-Muslim invaders/occupiers isn't jihad? Defending one's mother, sister or aunt from rape by foreign & non-Muslim invaders/occupiers isn't jihad?

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Re: Why are the jihadis of today the most sinful people?

Postby Casanova25 » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:49 pm

But my main point is that the so-called jihad is a sin and can lead one to hell-fire, will you not agree to this?
I disagree, 'cause the so-called jihad can be a genuine jihad that can lead one to paradise, and you and me don't know that.
Allah has already told us what a genuine jihad is. There is no jihad in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan and Somalia according to the teachings of the Quran and Prophet. :|
Defending one's country from foreign & non-Muslim invaders/occupiers isn't jihad? Defending one's mother, sister or aunt from rape by foreign & non-Muslim invaders/occupiers isn't jihad?
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Re: Why are the jihadis of today the most sinful people?

Postby XimanJaale » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:51 pm

Defending one's country from foreign & non-Muslim invaders/occupiers isn't jihad? Defending one's mother, sister or aunt from rape by foreign & non-Muslim invaders/occupiers isn't jihad?
There is no foreign forces invading Iraq and Syria today. These so-called jihadis in Syria and Iraq are busy killing Muslims. :|

Funny how these so-called jihadis didn't fight when America and NATO invaded Iraq. :down:

Regards to Somalia, the foreign forces were invited to the country by the Somali leaders and it is allowed in Islam to make military, economic agreement with non-Muslims. Sheekh Umal talks about this in this lecture:


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Re: Why are the jihadis of today the most sinful people?

Postby sconosciuto » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:09 pm

Regards to Somalia, the foreign forces were invited to the country by the Somali leaders and it is allowed in Islam to make military, economic agreement with non-Muslims. Sheekh Umal talks about this in this lecture:

Did sheikh Umal also say it's OK for foreign forces to rape Somali women?

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Re: Why are the jihadis of today the most sinful people?

Postby XimanJaale » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:14 pm

Did sheikh Umal also say it's OK for foreign forces to rape Somali women?
Is it ok for Somali men to rape Somali women?

Regardless of the mistreatment carried out by Somali forces, ordinary Somali citizens, Al-Shabaab or foreign forces rape is rape. These forces were invited and made a agreement by the Somali government. Therefore there is no jihad in Somalia but Fitna.

Same goes for Nigeria, there is no foreign forces. Muslim Nigerians and Christian Nigerian share a country and a government. Boko Haram has no rights to attack innocent people and call it jihad at the same time.

I always find it funny how these so-called jihadist most victims are Muslims. (Hint: Khawaarij)

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Re: Why are the jihadis of today the most sinful people?

Postby sconosciuto » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:18 pm

These forces were invited and made a agreement by the Somali government.
Where in Islam does it says Muslim leaders can invite non-Muslim forces? Is there's a historical precedence during the prophet's (pbuh) or Sahaba's era?


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