Pan Somalism still exists..

[EvolSyawla]

I find it funny that you are making this thread, considering you're always attacking other tribes.

I fiercly believe in Pan Somali'ism', and would be an advocate for qabiil and all of the ideas that seperate us to bring us together instead. I will dl and watch this, thank you.

I have Soul on Ice, and I was really into this ideology surrounding group consciousness, but as you aptly put it, cynicism is easily borne.

[Xildiiid]

I attack my own clan and insult them. Unlike other Somalis I don't differentiate, when you provoke me you'll get it...

I'm not a Pan Somalist, I made this thread to highlight that there are sincere people out there who believe in Pan Somalism.

As Hodan put it, he lives in the wrong decade.

[Caesar]

Pan Somalism died when Somalis pretended to be Arabs. Is it a coincidence everything fell apart after Somalia joined the Arab League?
Maybe it was Allah saying stop being a shegaato.

Other then that, Pan Somali-ism focal point should be Somalinessssssss

[Xildiiid]

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People from Djibooty shouldn't talk about Pan Somalism, the reason why you got your independence was because of other Somalis and you have not contributed anything.

Why don't your country Djibooty start and leave the Arab league?

[Caesar]

again the jealousy strikes again, is a civil conversation too much for you? Keep trolling, maybe this month you will reach 80,000 posts instead of going outside and having a life.

Djibouti is a proud Somali country. Contributing to the Stability of our southern brothers, housing refugees from Sland in the 80s and 90s , and all in all being the best developed Somali nation on earth. Oh wait in before Xidiid rants about Djibouti for 8 pages as if that changes life outside

Staying on topic. Pan Somali-ism's focal point should be SOMALINESS.

I propose a SOMALI LEAGUE, headquartered in Djibouti City.
With representatives from Djibouti,Somalia,NFD,Galbeed, and North Somalia working together in helping Somali inhabited lands all over the horn. Something greater then the Arta conference, we gave Somalia the 4.5 system,time to give something better.

Again like I said, it is a coincidence everything fell apart after joining the Arab league. What was the benefits?

[Xildiiid]

Lol, your colonel Xamud (Djibooty) is denying the AMISOM crimes against innocent women and children in Somalia because he's a afraid that the mission will end or take a turn, which shows that Djibooty is in AMISOM for the money. He's defending the Ugandese and Burundian soldiers that committed crimes, so much for being "Somali".

If the Djibootyians were sincere they would sponsor their missions like the Ethiopians and do the dirty job instead of having Habeshas protecting them in Beledweyne.

Refugees from SL fled to Ethiopia, around 500.000 fled to Hawd. None of them fled to Djibooty. It was only a maximum of 20 people who had family in Djibooty that went there.

The question remains, what have Djibooty done for Pan Somalism? The answer is nothing...

On the contrary people from Somaliland and Somalia did all they could for enslaved Somalis, which was the biggest mistake they ever made.

People from Djibooty have no right to speak about Pan Somalism.

You can always try to deny SL but look up the first Somali state that gained independence and you'll see Somaliland. We were the back bone of Pan Somalism and we gave up our sovereignty for that cause.


Instead of talking about the Arab league, why don't you make your country (Djibooty) leave that organization?

[Caesar]

This guy and his jealousy the cudhur is real, why do you always want to challenge Djibouti in every post? I noticed that wallahi, as if that will legitimize you as an Isaaq/Slander poster. Djibouti - Sland beef doesn't even exist in real life,
you just shout like a parrot "Djibouti Djibouti Djibouti". You will be owned each time.

Djibouti has done many Pan Somali gestures, I cannot list them all since I would be writting a book, rather then a thread post, one example I'll mention will be housing Somaliland Refugees in the 80s and 90s This is fact. You also ran to Dire Dawa, the Isse and Gurgura city.

oh how I remember the stories I heard... but it's not good to laugh at that situation since it was kind of sad. I'll xishow for Islam.

SNM rebels launched a military offensive in northern Somalia on May 26, 1988. Some 350,000 Isaaq clan members fled as refugees to Dire Dawa

That's called Zakat. a lot of Ajar was gained from that act of charity.
http://uca.edu/politicalscience/dadm-pr ... 0-present/
If I listed every act of awesomeness I'd be writing a book, and not a simple thread post. Accept Charity.

Djibouti is stabilizing south Somalia, while Somaliland begs for new Somalia passports. One day you might be recognized so try harder, Until then keep the comparisons up, it's hilarious. You speak about Djibouti more then anyone on this site. Obsessed ba tahay.

[Xildiiid]

The SNM headquarters were in Dirdhaba and we controlled that town with an iron fist, as soon as we left the Oromos started enslaving the Gurgura and incorporating them in their clan and the small Ciise Waraabe fled to Djibooty. This was in the 80's.

500.000 refugees fled to places on Hawd such as Daroor, Harta Sheikh etc. you can read he HRw report called "a government at war with its own people".

How can Djibooty be stabilizing Somalia when the head of mission, Col. Xamud from Djibooty is protecting and defending the Ugandan and Burundian soldiers that are committing crimes against innocent women and children?

Pan Somalis = The idea of uniting all Somalis under a single state, now the question remains, what have Djibooty done for Pan Somalis?

Somaliland gave up its sovereignty and soldiers from SL and Somalia fought in the 1964 border war with Ethiopia and the 1977 war with Ethiopia in order to liberate the Somalis in Hawd and Galbeed.

Show me one example of what Djibooty has done?


Btw, we have our own passports and you saw how our comedians travelled to UK.


Don't get mad when I highlight the hypocrisy of Djiboutiennes.

[Caesar]

What is the definition of a refugee? It is: a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster. You were running from Siad Barre at that time.


How do refugees who lost everything control a town this guy is drunk. More lies to feel better about being in a refugee camp. Don't blame djibouti, blame Siad barre Feeding refugees is called Somalinimo.
You were lucky we provided stale laxooh so you can survive.
Siad Barre chased you away from the North, and the Isse and Gurgura of Dire Dawa gave you Zakat. That's all there is to it. Why are you ashamed?

SNM rebels launched a military offensive in northern Somalia on May 26, 1988. Some 350,000 Isaaq clan members fled as refugees to Dire Dawa.

http://uca.edu/politicalscience/dadm-pr ... 0-present/

Some 50,000 fled to Djibouti as refugees too.
So rough estimate of those we saved from death 400,000. Can that be counted as a great act of Somalinimo? I personally would have stayed neutral in that whole thing and not get involved, but I guess my parent's generation was merciful.This will be included in the new Somalia history books Inshallah. Hassan Shiekh needs to include that chapter.
Anyways, the fact that you were refugees is taught in universities everywhere and is cited by that link I posted.

[Caesar]

Btw, we have our own passports and you saw how our comedians travelled to UK.

Only 8 countries accept the Somaliland passport, unofficially. Since Somaliland is not a recognized nation. Of course the Queen recognizances her illegitimates...unofficially, that's just custom.

Only 188 countries do not recognize Somaliland Passport. not even "unofficially". That is 96.0% of the nations on earth that you cannot travel to on your fake passport. So for that you will have to beg the Somalia passport

Meanwhile Djibouti can freely travel the world

[Xildiiid]

The SNM headquarters were in Dirdhaba from 1981-1988. We controlled the city with an iron fist. Until Mengistu signed a peace treaty with the Somali republic. SNM moved to Somaliland fought the SNA inside SL.

The refugees in Ethiopia were aided by Mengistu, lol @ this Ciise Waraabe trying to take credit for what Mengistu did. The tents, the food, the healthcare was funded by Mengistu even though he was sponsored by the UN.

The only people who went to Djibooty had relatives there and the Isaaq dominate the economy of Djibooty so it's not like your government looked after them

You said my people use the Somalia passport and I disproved you.

Your people use the Djibooty passport to travel and seek asylum in other countries. I guess the French Anus in unbearable

The fact remains, what has Djibooty done for Pan Somalism? You opposed joining the republic after we liberated you so tell me what have you done for Pan Somalis?

[Basra-]

Baasto

I think I have watched enough. Is this guy YOU?


Anyway, he seems to have great ideas. But I think sadly he is a dreamer. The only point I like in that list, is the first one: Somalis needs a group conscious. Or Consciousness for that matter. "if" they do, everything will happen organically and at its own pace. He seems like this little brit fish and chips has his heart in the right place. YES, he is an idealist, and of course, like all idealists, he is also a dreamer. He basically wants to build Rome in quick succession, like going to a fast food drive thru. I mean, even God created the universe in 7 days, this kid has a big head that dreams big. The world doesn't work that way. Also, u cant create Super markets to bring revenue for a republic. Its impossible. That would not be Capitalism. That would be controlled Socialism. (We know, nothing comes out of it)


At least with Communist China--the government dictates them to do stuff. There is no parliament democratic bickering and noise, what the prime of minister of China says--it will happen. Sometimes for the better. Things get done quickly.


Aboo helooow, first of all, needs a hair cut. 10 years from now, he is going to regret having that afro. Second of all, try to see if he can get medication for treating his depression, he seems like he suffers from it, based on his face alone. Third of all, I think the way he pronounces abtii and biscuits is hilarious.


He is a product of being born in south London. A bright kid no doubt, but also a disturbing one. I wish him good luck. We all went through this state of late teenage years, to early 20s Idealism day dreaming. He will snap out of it,and all would be well- one hopes.



Is this long enough Baasto?

[0sman]

Xildiid is like

Caesar is like

And I am

[LobsterUnit]

Basra, cheers. This brother mahdi abdi elijah farakhan is a dreamer. He has some interesting ideas. And, no, thats not me, for I i am the chairman of the somali bidaar party.

[Caesar]

The SNM headquarters were in Dirdhaba from 1981-1988. We controlled the city with an iron fist. Until Mengistu signed a peace treaty with the Somali republic. SNM moved to Somaliland fought the SNA inside SL.

I don't give a fuck where SNM set up a dusty tent, but controlling Dire?Lmfao Not true , and no sources,
You were refugees in Dire Dawa and Djibouti. You were bombed and chased out of Hargeisa. Again making up things in thin air will not change how Siad Barre chased you out of your own cities and forced you to beg on the street Here is some proof and not your lies.

SNM rebels launched a military offensive in northern Somalia on May 26, 1988. Some 350,000 Isaaq clan members fled as refugees to Dire Dawa.

http://uca.edu/politicalscience/dadm-pr ... 0-present/

350,000 ran to Dire Dawa to beg, 50,000 ran away to Djibouti, the amount of lives saved by my people as zakat, 400,000.

it's not like your government looked after them

Ismail Omar Geele had to say yes so you can beg in our country If he said no, where would you have gone?
Thank him on your hands and knees for giving you stale Laxooh.

You said my people use the Somalia passport and I disproved you.

Not really, As I have proven, 96 % of the world do not recognize the Somaliland passport. To travel to those countries you have to beg the Somalia passport. I believe Garowe is selling them to you right? Djibouti passport is recognized world wide.

The fact remains, what has Djibooty done for Pan Somalism?

Many things, like I said, If I were to list them all, I would be writing a book rather then a thread post. My main example for now was helping refugees afraid of Siad Barre. But if you want to know what else Djiboutians did, our success is a boost to Somalinimo. We are showing Somalis all over the world it is okay to have streetlights,schools,hospitals,safety,infrastructure,planning etc.
We killed the Habash with their own weapons, we squueze every last dollar out of Ethiopia, we are developing Shinile, we helped starving refugees, we are helping our Southern brothers these are just a few examples of our Somalinimo. Since you are online all day and don't go outside why don't you go read about the ARTA conference? We gave Somalia the 4.5 system.

Again since you are online all day you can find out all the wonderful things Djibouti has done apart from the stories hoyo told you when you all were begging in Djibouti city and Dire Dawa