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Re: 'ethnic' somalis are diverse why discriminate others

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:26 pm
by Substance
Discrimination exist in Somalia but I'm sure that this thread is not intended to have that discussion

Re: 'ethnic' somalis are diverse why discriminate others

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:33 pm
by Adali
the poor girl is a rape victim, her clan is murjerten.

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Re: 'ethnic' somalis are diverse why discriminate others

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:38 pm
by YummyMummy
PO: What exactly transparent & obvious? Unless you're caalimul gheyb I don't think you can make such a baseless assumption.
That she is a lil reer baadiye qabilist. Take off your hj goggles and pay attention to what she says and you will see.
Was I wearing them in the first place? :lol: PO mostly you make sense, here you're barking at the wrong tree sxb. Move on :up:

Re: 'ethnic' somalis are diverse why discriminate others

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:41 pm
by HooBariiska
Can't view video.someone summarize it please

Re: 'ethnic' somalis are diverse why discriminate others

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:48 pm
by Hodan94
PO: What exactly transparent & obvious? Unless you're caalimul gheyb I don't think you can make such a baseless assumption.
That she is a lil reer baadiye qabilist. Take off your hj goggles and pay attention to what she says and you will see.
Was I wearing them in the first place? :lol: PO mostly you make sense, here you're barking at the wrong tree sxb. Move on :up:
just because she happens to be darood doesn't mean im qabilst it is you who has the tribal goggles on. I have not mentioned anything to diss anyone, im making a valid point if you feel insecure about it then that's up to you.

dissing minorities because they look 'weird' is wrong when you have people that look exactly like them or even worse from the bigger clans.
that's why minorities need to be treated fairly.

Re: 'ethnic' somalis are diverse why discriminate others

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:59 pm
by LightAtNight
The lady may not be covered and everything, but she seems like she kind of has a good heart. I like her laid back attitude

Re: 'ethnic' somalis are diverse why discriminate others

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:03 pm
by SultanOrder
why discriminate? she is from one of the major clans in the country of Somalia. why discriminate on jareers and others??
bare in mind these people have been living with y'al for hundreds of years, you all act like they came last week.
there needs to be minorities like these kind in top positions or else your country will never recover.
She makes it clear she is talking about "US" but not "her", and you think she is:
^ What pill did you swallow caawa PO? :lol:
Seriously though, I see no mention of Daarood, and in any case Hodan made a valid point; we're far too obsessed by competing on maalaa yacni things like qabiil and tying it to complexion, nose and hair (among other things), and fail to see that there is huge variation within Somalis themselves. Look at SNet for example!
You come in here immediately to her defense making some false argument that she is trying to make an insightful topic about discrimination, that involves all of us, and not obviously everyone else except her and her country i.e. somaliland.... and you think you don't have your HJ goggles on? Give me a break.


And if you watch the video, the lady claims she is majeerteen and ogaden, so where do minorities come into the discussion if the girl in the video is Daarood? :?

Re: 'ethnic' somalis are diverse why discriminate others

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:06 pm
by Cherine
Naaya Hodan joogso.

Re: 'ethnic' somalis are diverse why discriminate others

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:13 pm
by Itrah
Just because someone claims to be from a certain clan does not mean that the majority of his or her ancestors are from that clan.

Also, I would not trust acculturated Somalis living in the West on their ethnic origins.

There are many cases of Midgaans and Jareers claiming to be from an ethnic Somali clan as they fled to the West and try to rebuild a ''cleaner'' name in a new place.

Re: 'ethnic' somalis are diverse why discriminate others

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:19 pm
by YummyMummy
PO: illeen sxb when you wanna dig for, you dig deeeeep soomaahaa? :lol:
I fail to see how my stating that I don't get where you're coming from = defending her due to qabiil? If that's the crux of your argument then I'm disappointed PO, better luck with your evidence next time :lol: :up:

And wallahi I read that "you" to mean all Somalis. Shouldn't fault others for your faulty interpretation walal :lol:

Re: 'ethnic' somalis are diverse why discriminate others

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:23 pm
by Itrah
This woman is an obvious fraud, you guys are fools for believing her so-called roots.

Re: 'ethnic' somalis are diverse why discriminate others

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:45 pm
by SultanOrder
PO: illeen sxb when you wanna dig for, you dig deeeeep soomaahaa? :lol:
I fail to see how my stating that I don't get where you're coming from = defending her due to qabiil? If that's the crux of your argument then I'm disappointed PO, better luck with your evidence next time :lol: :up:

And wallahi I read that "you" to mean all Somalis. Shouldn't fault others for your faulty interpretation walal :lol:
Look at the topic, YOU are the only one that doesn't get it. And if she meant you as all Somalis, what do you think she means by top positions in YOUR country. Was she talking about SL? :?

Re: 'ethnic' somalis are diverse why discriminate others

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:58 pm
by LightAtNight
Her children were taken away from her :( I hate to see hooyo ilmaheeda laga qaadey really sad. Also pay attention to the part where she describes the struggles her mother went through in her life, and her dream to get her mother married again :(

Re: 'ethnic' somalis are diverse why discriminate others

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:24 pm
by incognito1
her father was a tribal chief and a doctor of the hawiye clan, but both her mother and her father were from the darood clan loool. her mother and her father were from Waring tribes, her fathers mother was saying kill the ogaden kill the ogaden,which was her mothers clan. her fathers clan owned half of the city, her fathers clan didn't like her mothers clan.her father was a rich merchant who also was a military man.he moved them to hawiye clan territory, where they lived in a house with a farm next to an army base. then she got to know the hawiye clan,who did not want to be ruled by the government, who were darood. they didn't like her, she wasn't welcome, but they sang song and praised her father because he was their chief looool. the hawiye use to throw her in the river, rape her, and beat her,her mother use to farm while she herded the cows. the hawiye called the darood the bass loool. her father was a pirate loool.

stopped at 11:59 min couldn't hear more bs she is not somali



how can a darood man be a hawiye chief, how is he praised and respected while his daughter is rapep and abused, how does a wealthy merchant who is also a doctor get involved in the army.why would a darood man move his family into the hawiye heartland in a time of war????

let me answer this, its a fake sob story to make cadaan people feel good about themselves, but since no somali is desperate enough to degrade themselves. they use what is available ,like they did in black hawk down, cadaans and their freaking superiority complex man.

Re: 'ethnic' somalis are diverse why discriminate others

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:32 pm
by Chinaman
I thought the "diverse" origins of Somalis were already established by you Qabilsits, Isaaqs are from Iraq, Daroods from Yemen, Hawiye was native according to some whilst others also say he was a migrant....So what is surprising about the "diversity" seeing as to how we have different origins according to Ya'll?Image

The Sheer Hypocrisy is amazing Lol


Somalis are nothing more than an old neolithic mixture of a "Dinka" like people and an old Middle Eastern group anyway, this happened around what is now Southern Egypt roughly 5-7 thousand years ago.

Here is where Somalis cluster on a world population plot (though some-what a limited list, at least this has Somalis as a reference, usually they use Ethiopians whom cluster around the same place as us) between the "Nilotic" Dinka and "Bedouins" & Mediterraneans. The Maasai are Cushitic-Nilotic 50/50. This is why they cluster towards us, for more purer Nilotics, Dinkas are the most representatives and Somalis seem intermediate between them and Eurasians.

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Btw, Mozabites are Berbers from Algeria, most North Africans, Arab or Berber cluster with them. North Africans usually seem about "20%" Native Black African.