ISIS now confesses to practice ancient Arabic customs...

[Basra-]

Enslaving none Muslim woman and children in the name of ISLAM. Waaar adaa baa haya.

[Twist]

Basra, are you trying to come out of the closet too? Is this a forerunner of what's to come soon? Get ready for unprecedented karbaash, you closeted atheist.

[Typhoon]

There is a logical fallacy in the title and what you wrote.

[Basra-]

Typhoon

Care to elaborate the fallacy?


Twist,

Islam and Quran does not approve slavery and enslaving. It is an Arab Culture that is confused with Islam.

[TheCaller]

Basra, are you trying to come out of the closet too? Is this a forerunner of what's to come soon? Get ready for unprecedented karbaash, you closeted atheist.

hey watch it there buddy takfiris not welcome

[DR-YALAXOOW]

Islam and Quran does not approve slavery and enslaving. It is an Arab Culture that is confused with Islam.

Islam and quran approves enslavement of woman and Children... its halal to sell and buy a Child and woman from the slave market.

in the quran you have 23 verses which talks about Owning humanbeings ..slavery... Islam is halaal to have a Slave..

[Basra-]

Dr.

And lots of verses say Prophet Muhammed saw approved slaves to be freed and be kind to the weak. Meaning instead of enslaving them, be kind and free them. What r u going to say now dr.???


PS what if I desire to be a sex slave? Is it allowed?

[zumaale]

Basra. Slavery is permitted in Islam and slaves can only be captured under certain circumstances. You cannot raid a people that are not at war with you and take them as slaves as Isis have done against innocent Kurdish pagans. However, in a righteous war such as the Crusades or subsequent conflicts between Muslim and non-Muslim states states, slavery is Xalal. You can have sex with your slave concubines like your wife and any children from them are Xalal too.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

why Not just forbitt it all of it Slavery... be kind of your slave... give a food your slave bla bla bla... why should we have slavery in first place ?

Actualy Slavery is part of Sharia Law... here hadith which prophet says Run away slave will not enter paradise)

Prophet (saw) said, "Allah has forbidden the Paradise to three people: the alcoholic, the runaway slave, and the one who is complacent in the face of the evil deeds that his family is performing

Allah is the side of slave owner not a poor slave person according that hadith.....

[Basra-]

Basra. Slavery is permitted in Islam and slaves can only be captured under certain circumstances. You cannot raid a people that are not at war with you and take them as slaves as Isis have done against innocent Kurdish pagans. However, in a righteous war such as the Crusades or subsequent conflicts between Muslim and non-Muslim states states, slavery is Xalal. You can have sex with your slave concubines like your wife and any children from them are Xalal too.

Interesting. Zu so basically what ISIS is doing is wrong. They took a little truth about slavery in Islam and twisted it. Their tweets claim that ISIS will take none muslim women and children as Slaves just like the old day. I thought that was jacked up. But yes, you are right, invading a state is not part of the deal. I have always said this too. The only time it justifies Muslims to go into war is when they are fighting to get a right to practice ISLAM. In other words JIhaad. In todays world of high religion tolerant, where all religions have the liberty to practice their faith, Jihaad war is useless. Palestine and Isreal war is not Jihaad. They are fighting for a land. That Adunyaa not Aqeero issue such as the importance of or the right to Worship Allaah saw in the accordance to Islam. So, basically ---in modern terms --then--Zu---slavery is futile. Not applicable? We both agree then. Mashalaah--Zu-- I feel that we are sophisticated' in the art of debate.

[zumaale]

Basra, stay away from whatever makes you kuku please. Your reasoning is a fantasy to say the least. When Muslims were invading Byzantine, North Africa, Spain or when Somalis were invading Abyssinia do you think we did not take slaves? In the case of Palestine, it is a Jihad for those that protect their homes from oppressors but I doubt they are strong enough as a unit to wage war against Israel and seek redress for their losses.

[Basra-]

Basra, stay away from whatever makes you kuku please. Your reasoning is a fantasy to say the least. When Muslims were invading Byzantine, North Africa, Spain or when Somalis were invading Abyssinia do you think we did not take slaves? In the case of Palestine, it is a Jihad for those that protect their homes from oppressors but I doubt they are strong enough as a unit to wage war against Israel and seek redress for their losses.

Zulooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

Darn it! For a moment I thought, me & you are in agreement. I was empri with your logical thinking. Yes, Muslims took slave during the invasion of Byzantine, North Africa, and Somalia with Abyssinia--but that didn't make it --right ? Did it? I mean- I have a direct close aunt who does not KNOW her parentage. She was stolen or taken as a slave as a kid- by a Somali soldier during the 70s war with Ethiopia. She was raised by the Somali soldier family and my grand mama's brother married her. (the MJ Wabeeneya side) Every time she visited us, her parentage came into discussion. That was not right. But I guess, in a prudential light-- the result was favorable. She is now a Muslimaah--married to a very religious family. (the wabeeneya grand parent connection)


Anyway-- Zu--my point is---maybe the definition of slavery is to be discussed here. Your original point was sound. Slavery should only happen when there is a Jihaad war-- the slavery of women, and children as a result is not wrong. For me--what is wrong is what the English Colonies did to the west Africans Seara Leons, and the Ghana during the 17th century of shipping slaves across the sea for commerce purpose. And the slavery that ISIS is talking about where they want to enslave none Muslim women for sex purposes. Which the thought is not so bad, If it were true. Because there is one problem; Usually or typically, ISIS rookies tend to have low sexual libidos. They are hyper aquaan men who have absolutely no contact with female company, and maybe jump and freak out at the sight of a vagina, so therefore, I doubt they want a sex slave. They rather cuddle with a good Quraan with a nice shiny cover than with a warm body of good firm naked breast adorned to it. I am sure their emphasis is more like to convert them. Yet, ironically, they slaughtered the none Muslim men instead of preaching Islam or forcing them to convert. Such ironies and contraries is sad but true.

[Cherine]

Goodness does not consist in turning your face towards east or west. The truly good are those who believe in God and the Last Day, in the Angels, the Scripture, and the prophets; who give away some their wealth, however much they cherish it, to their relatives, to orphans, the needy, travelers and beggars, and to liberate those in bondage; those who keep up the prayer and pay the prescribed alms; who keep pledges whenever they make them; who are steadfast in misfortune, adversity, and in times of danger. These are the ones who are true, and it is they who are aware of God.” Quran 2:177

'Did We not give him two eyes, a tongue, two lips, and point out to him the two clear ways[of good and evil]?. Yet he has not attempted the steep path. What will explain to you what the steep path is? It is to free a slave, to feed at a time of hunger an orphaned relative or a poor person in distress and to be one of those who believe and urge one another in steadfastness and compassion.[Surah Al Balad]

Marry off the single among you, and those of your male and female slaves who are fit[for marriage]. If they are poor, God will provide for them from His bounty : God's bounty is infinite and He is all knowing. Let those who are unable to marry keep chaste until God gives them enough out of His bounty. And if any of your slaves seek a writing of emancipation, write it for them if you know they have good in them, and give them some of the wealth God has given you. Do not force your slave girls to prostitution, when they themselves wish to remain honourable, in your quest for the short-term gains of this world, although, if they are forced, God will be forgiving and merciful [to them]{Surah Al Nur:Light}

[DR-YALAXOOW]

i dont understand.. GOD is GOD.. why doesn't he just forbidd the Slavery??

Do not force your slave girls to prostitution

why in the first Place should be Girls who are slaves ?? .

[waraabe251]

Wow so you can rape your slave in Islam