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Re: Are Somalis Ethiopian?
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:40 am
by Xamud.
What kind of question is this? of course we are not Ethiopian, haadan ahan lahayn we would be speaking amharic and eating raw meat
Somalis are Somalis, people need to stop obsessing about what we are, and where we come from. Wherever we came from before we landed in Somalia, I can bet everything I own that they are happy we are not there now, and they are probably basking in peace and glory.
Re: Are Somalis Ethiopian?
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:44 am
by TheMailMan
Platinum, Ethiopia is a multi ethnic state. Anyone one that resides there is Ethiopian irrespective of ethnicity. You should have asked, what are the origins of the Somali people? That is hard to answer because the Somali identity is more than a millennium old and we do not all share a common ancestry, a paternal one anyway.
We are linguistically closely related to some ethnic groups in Ethiopia and Sudan. We even share some cultural traits.
This is very true. Afars and Oromos are our closest relatives

Re: Are Somalis Ethiopian?
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:01 am
by Adali
Oh you poor amateur troll that's not how you piss off Somalis when technically there are lots of "Ethiopians" who happen to be Somalis. Just to help you out, try making "Are Somalis Jews?" thread and even then my answer is "Yes, Somalis are Jews, nice try tho. Better luck next time."
I didn't recall exactly when but I do remember you losing your cool at some point in your Snet history, I should have taken the time to appreciate it more since it rarely happens.

Re: Are Somalis Ethiopian?
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:12 am
by original dervish
Plat.....There were whole Somali tribes that were absorbed by Xabashi's and no longer speak Somali, and vice versa.
I'd advise you to search out some books on the subject.
PS For those whom claim to loathe you....they sure love to interact with you.

Re: Are Somalis Ethiopian?
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:18 am
by Khalid Ali
Original dervish is right there are Somali clans assimilated by Amhara and oromo, and there are Oromos and Amhara assimilated in Somalis, all in all the Horn of Africa is one family after all. Ethiopia is national identity its not an ethnic group per say.
Re: Are Somalis Ethiopian?
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:20 am
by AgentOfChaos
Oh you poor amateur troll that's not how you piss off Somalis when technically there are lots of "Ethiopians" who happen to be Somalis. Just to help you out, try making "Are Somalis Jews?" thread and even then my answer is "Yes, Somalis are Jews, nice try tho. Better luck next time."
I didn't recall exactly when but I do remember you losing your cool at some point in your Snet history, I should have taken the time to appreciate it more since it rarely happens.

Nope, never happened, nope, never lost my cool.

Re: Are Somalis Ethiopian?
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:22 am
by anzeloti
Somalis are Argentinians
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Re: Are Somalis Ethiopian?
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:26 am
by PLATINUUM
@original and khalid thank you both so much, that is the answer i was looking for...thank you for the info
@orginal yes...they frequent my threads only to throw shade, by they're corny, they don't know how to be offensive yet....A.O.C just tried but missed...miserably...
idk you'd think for people who claim to dislike me they'd stay the fuck away from my threads but....guess not
Re: Are Somalis Ethiopian?
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:30 am
by Estarix
The name ethiopia itself is incorrect as it was originally referred to territority today located in northern sudan, the highlanders stole that name to discard the name Abyssia which has imperial connotations. The Horn simply comprises of numerous tribes bound by language, culture and common origins/history.
Re: Are Somalis Ethiopian?
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:39 am
by theyuusuf143
as khaalid said ethiopia is not ethnicity. but yes some somalis are related to habesha and oromo ethnic groups. for example habarjeclo mother was xabashi. every thing with waaq is originally oromo so jidwaaq could be related to oromos. there are recently oromized somali clans in south west faafan region I think the gare are one of them.
Re: Are Somalis Ethiopian?
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:40 am
by Estarix
Original dervish is right there are Somali clans assimilated by Amhara and oromo, and there are Oromos and Amhara assimilated in Somalis, all in all the Horn of Africa is one family after all. Ethiopia is national identity its not an ethnic group per say.
nah somalis didnt absorb because of geographical and religious barriers, it gets blurry depending on how far back you go, but the xabasis have recent genetic input (dating back several thousand years) which today caused them to form a distinct population and somalis form a genetic a homogenous population indicating a lack of outside admixture. If we had oromo or amhara admixture wed have higher omotic and euroasian respectively, but we dont.
Oromos are the ones who have absorbed countless muslim (gurage, Somali) and xabasis during their massive expansion after the exhausting Adal and Solomonic war.
Re: Are Somalis Ethiopian?
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:51 am
by zumaale
Original dervish is right there are Somali clans assimilated by Amhara and oromo, and there are Oromos and Amhara assimilated in Somalis, all in all the Horn of Africa is one family after all. Ethiopia is national identity its not an ethnic group per say.
nah somalis didnt absorb because of geographical and religious barriers, it gets blurry depending on how far back you go, but the xabasis have recent genetic input (dating back several thousand years) which today caused them to form a distinct population and somalis form a genetic a homogenous population indicating a lack of outside admixture. If we had oromo or amhara admixture wed have higher omotic and euroasian respectively, but we dont.
Oromos are the ones who have absorbed countless muslim (gurage, Somali) and xabasis during their massive expansion after the exhausting Adal and Solomonic war.
Spot on, that is why why Oromos possess different features depending on the locality. The ones adjacent to the Somalis are not that different from Somalis. Similarly, the ones in Shewa can be mistaken for being Amharra and do not look like their Muslim 'kin' in Harar.
Re: Are Somalis Ethiopian?
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:48 pm
by LobsterUnit
Kts.the people who speak the cushitic languages shared a similar culture several thousand years ago.somalis split off from this group and branched out in different directions.amhara and tigrey were part of the axum empire and ruled parts of modern northern ethiopia^yemen.there are references from greeks and others regarding a group of people settling in modern somalia.the ince frankincense and myhrr trade took place in ancient ports of somalia.somalis are somalis.
Re: Are Somalis Ethiopian?
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:54 pm
by Khalid Ali
Are all of the Horn is related some how 10.000 Years ago Estrix not all Somalis have tested somalis share the exact same haplogroups with other ethnic groups in the HORN , ethiopia is a country with many ethnic groups not all ethnic groups have same relations and there are Somalis in Ethiopia , Ethiopia predates the Somali republic ,Somaalis were called Somaalis for a long period of time. But the first writing of the name Somaali was first seen in a Poem recited by Habashi King which is very funny lol the ogaden professor who wrote about allot of the Somali genealogies wrote about it.
Re: Are Somalis Ethiopian?
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:08 pm
by Estarix
Are all of the Horn is related some how 10.000 Years ago Estrix not all Somalis have tested somalis share the exact same haplogroups with other ethnic groups in the HORN , ethiopia is a country with many ethnic groups not all ethnic groups have same relations and there are Somalis in Ethiopia , Ethiopia predates the Somali republic ,Somaalis were called Somaalis for a long period of time. But the first writing of the name Somaali was first seen in a Poem recited by Habashi King which is very funny lol the ogaden professor who wrote about allot of the Somali genealogies wrote about it.
Yes, if you go back far enough we have common origins, but majority of somalis males share y dna subclade and if you do a full autosmal test somalis nearly have identical admixture levels, you see despite having common origins (proto ea) we have branched off and through the thousands of years of movement we ended up adapting to our environment (genes) and also receiving admixture from other groups in the horn (or close) such as omotic and euroasians.