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Thanks. Just so you know; I don't hate you at all. Infact, I tend to enjoy our verbal spars.

Just don't take it too seriously. It is the internet after all.

Seriously though OP, are you accusing me of f-king women? Because I'm still a virgin. I don't believe in sex before marriage. Also there are many a times I've defended the whites against the anti-whites here. Can you elaborate please?

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Thanks. Just so you know; I don't hate you at all. Infact, I tend to enjoy our verbal spars.

Just don't take it too seriously. It is the internet after all.

Seriously though OP, are you accusing me of f-king women? Because I'm still a virgin. I don't believe in sex before marriage. Also there are many a times I've defended the whites against the anti-whites here. Can you elaborate please?

It's so hilarious, how he's accusing us of stuff we've never done I mean, how the fuck did he ever reach the so-called "conclusion" that I'm someone who sleeps with dozens of white women and then insists on finding a virgin? How did he reach such a ridiculous conclusion? Where are his sources?

And I've defended Whites on this forum MANY times before as well....to the point where I was labeled an "Uncle Tom" by some of the anti-whites here

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Thanks. Just so you know; I don't hate you at all. Infact, I tend to enjoy our verbal spars.

Just don't take it too seriously. It is the internet after all.

Seriously though OP, are you accusing me of f-king women? Because I'm still a virgin. I don't believe in sex before marriage. Also there are many a times I've defended the whites against the anti-whites here. Can you elaborate please?

It's so hilarious, how he's accusing us of stuff we've never done I mean, how the fuck did he ever reach the so-called "conclusion" that I'm someone who sleeps with dozens of white women and then insists on finding a virgin? How did he reach such a ridiculous conclusion? Where are his sources?

And I've defended Whites on this forum MANY times before as well....to the point where I was labeled an "Uncle Tom" by some of the anti-whites here

I literally cannot understand where these accusations are coming from bro. I'm so confused. I've never had sex before neither have I ever consumed alcohol or drugs. And is it wrong that I want a virgin? I just don't get it. I already said before that I'll make an exception to a divorced woman or one that has been sexually abused in the past so what's the problem? Plus I've never berated whites or ANY race at all. Hell if anything I've commended them non-stop. So where'd this come from?


OP, this is my challenge.

Highlight ANY quote of mine condemning any whites and detailing my sexual endeavours.

This is my request and failure to do so will render your thread irrelevant.

I'm waiting OP.

Phinks, this OP character is just embittered and he hates the fact that Somalis as a whole have become far more religious over the past few decades.

This is why he's projecting his ridiculous presumptions about us. Not once on this website have I ever disrespected women, nor did I ever berate white people, nor did I ever disparage a woman due to her not being a virgin. But he ASSUMES stuff, because that's all he has.

And then he creates a long-winded essay (which probably took him 3 hours to prepare ), where he accuses us of all sorts of stuff. I can sense the anger from his posts, and see that he's deeply bitter about something.

Leftist, you mad bro?

Regardless, at the end of the day, we are the Special Chosen Ones, the Monotheists who will live in Jannah eternally, while they, the Filthy-Wasakh Gaalo with their khamro(biyaha kulul) and “dumb sluts”, will burn in the fiery oven of Hellfire-Jahanam for ETERNITY, bro. Even the most pious Gaal doesn’t have a chance of leaving Hell. Mother Terese? Hell for eternity.SO WHAT if he lived a honorable, righteous and noble life, sacrificing his life and his money to protect the weak muslim community in Makkah, so what…all of that doesn’t matter cuz that nicca is a filthy MUSHRIK! I keeps it one hunnid like that doe.

So what is your argument in regard to the paragraph above that if one believes Gaalos go to hell as stipulated by the Deen that they are wayward. You are one confused nigga.

Next time, you want to criticise me please at least condemn me with words or ideas that are my own. It is not fair on Phinks, Mailman or myself to be lumped together on account of your inability to construct a reasoned argument. If you seek to roast me, feel free to open a thread entitled Zumaale and will be happy to debate you Sir.

^ I skipped the above paragraph. Focused on the female part. Damn. loool

tbf, I think he misinterpreted Phink's thread about white women.

As for the post, I think he could've easily used any name to highlight the rampant hypocrisy of Somalis, although poor Phinks was used as a placeholder. Although Leftist's beliefs regarding slavery and other "controversial" aspects of Islam are usually wrong, I do respect his ability to examine the wholly superficial nature of post-civil war Somali Islam and the ridiculous notion that what we wear, the names we pick for our children, and the use of Arabic terms is in any way indicative of some sort of religious revival.

Despite all evidence (24+ years of unrelenting horror of almost every conceivable kind) pointing to the contrary, there are people who will unironically claim Somalis are now more religious than they used to be. Apparently a nation can become more religious although you kill people, steal their land, rape women to death, worship your clan ancestors, sell your clan to the highest bidder, sell your nation's resources to whoever, steal aid meant for your starving compatriots, accept bribes from foreign companies to literally dump nuclear waste in your seas, enslave/ethnically cleanse your ethnic minorities, force them to buy their own river water, use drugged up child soldiers to fight, invite foreign troops to occupy "enemy" territory and kill all who stand in your way, kill your neighbor because your colonial master drew a line on a map way back when and also because you don't like their particular "Arab" patriarch, kill your neighbor because you don't like their particular patriarch or their interpretation of the magical line, kill your neighbor because they don't like federalism, kill your neighbor because you don't like their interpretation of federalism, and worst of all, have refugees who fled that hellhole send cayr money to make refugees out of the other clan.

But yacni akhi we are much more religious because I wear a khamiis on Friday's and my children have reached the 5th juz, btw qolomaa tahay and lacagtii lagaa rabay ma haysaa?

^^ Yeah kacaan is gone, stop crying.

Phinks if i could i'd fasten you in strait jacket

^^ Yeah kacaan is gone, stop crying.

Phinks if i could i'd fasten you in strait jacket

tbf, I think he misinterpreted Phink's thread about white women.

As for the post, I think he could've easily used any name to highlight the rampant hypocrisy of Somalis, although poor Phinks was used as a placeholder. Although Leftist's beliefs regarding slavery and other "controversial" aspects of Islam are usually wrong, I do respect his ability to examine the wholly superficial nature of post-civil war Somali Islam and the ridiculous notion that what we wear, the names we pick for our children, and the use of Arabic terms is in any way indicative of some sort of religious revival.

Despite all evidence (24+ years of unrelenting horror of almost every conceivable kind) pointing to the contrary, there are people who will unironically claim Somalis are now more religious than they used to be. Apparently a nation can become more religious although you kill people, steal their land, rape women to death, worship your clan ancestors, sell your clan to the highest bidder, sell your nation's resources to whoever, steal aid meant for your starving compatriots, accept bribes from foreign companies to literally dump nuclear waste in your seas, enslave/ethnically cleanse your ethnic minorities, force them to buy their own river water, use drugged up child soldiers to fight, invite foreign troops to occupy "enemy" territory and kill all who stand in your way, kill your neighbor because your colonial master drew a line on a map way back when and also because you don't like their particular "Arab" patriarch, kill your neighbor because you don't like their particular patriarch or their interpretation of the magical line, kill your neighbor because they don't like federalism, kill your neighbor because you don't like their interpretation of federalism, and worst of all, have refugees who fled that hellhole send cayr money to make refugees out of the other clan.

But yacni akhi we are much more religious because I wear a khamiis on Friday's and my children have reached the 5th juz, btw qolomaa tahay and lacagtii lagaa rabay ma haysaa?

tbf, I think he misinterpreted Phink's thread about white women.

As for the post, I think he could've easily used any name to highlight the rampant hypocrisy of Somalis, although poor Phinks was used as a placeholder. Although Leftist's beliefs regarding slavery and other "controversial" aspects of Islam are usually wrong, I do respect his ability to examine the wholly superficial nature of post-civil war Somali Islam and the ridiculous notion that what we wear, the names we pick for our children, and the use of Arabic terms is in any way indicative of some sort of religious revival.

Despite all evidence (24+ years of unrelenting horror of almost every conceivable kind) pointing to the contrary, there are people who will unironically claim Somalis are now more religious than they used to be. Apparently a nation can become more religious although you kill people, steal their land, rape women to death, worship your clan ancestors, sell your clan to the highest bidder, sell your nation's resources to whoever, steal aid meant for your starving compatriots, accept bribes from foreign companies to literally dump nuclear waste in your seas, enslave/ethnically cleanse your ethnic minorities, force them to buy their own river water, use drugged up child soldiers to fight, invite foreign troops to occupy "enemy" territory and kill all who stand in your way, kill your neighbor because your colonial master drew a line on a map way back when and also because you don't like their particular "Arab" patriarch, kill your neighbor because you don't like their particular patriarch or their interpretation of the magical line, kill your neighbor because they don't like federalism, kill your neighbor because you don't like their interpretation of federalism, and worst of all, have refugees who fled that hellhole send cayr money to make refugees out of the other clan.

But yacni akhi we are much more religious because I wear a khamiis on Friday's and my children have reached the 5th juz, btw qolomaa tahay and lacagtii lagaa rabay ma haysaa?

Saaxib get a grip. Nowhere did I claim that Somalis were perfect, and your anecdotal stories of atrocities which have occurred over the past 25 years doesn't mean the overall trend in the opposite direction doesn't exist

Anyone who grew up during the Kacaan era would testify that Islam played a background role in Somali affairs during the 1970's and 1980's. Somalis rarely prayed, rarely fasted, and it was all too common to see Somali women exposing their arms, legs, and hair. I have Somali uncles telling me that anyone who even prayed 5 times a day during that era, was considered to be a "Sheikh" since doing so wasn't very common in Somali society.

And this isn't only something that went on in Somalia, in fact the ENTIRE Muslim world was like this as well, including Saudi Arabia. Back in the 1970's, the Muslims who lived in Egypt and Pakistan and Indonesia were secular--often Marxist--who thought religion was outdated and should play a background role in society.

Just look at what Gamal Abdel Nasser used to say about wearing the hijaab, and this was back in the 1960's:



This speech (and the reaction of the crowd) paints a pretty accurate picture of how Muslims used to think back in that era. Ask ANYONE who lived during that time and they'll tell you the same thing. There is an Islamic revival, it's very real, it's very strong, and it's taking place in every Muslim nation. Read about it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_revival

These types of developments enrage these filthy secularists and Atheists amongst us. That's why they're so angry, that's what deeply embitters them. They know that back during the Cold War, Muslims were often VERY Secularist and many Muslims were openly Atheist. In fact, a large number of Somalis during the Kacaan era were in fact Atheist, who returned to Islam in the 1990's once they realized the errors of their ways. Hijab-wearing was not common, Quran-reading was not common, attending Taraweeh-prayer was NOT common, and so on and so on.

The rise of Ba'ath Party in Iraq and Syria point to this, along with the rise of the secular dictators Gamal Abdel Nasser, Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi and Suharto. All secular, all irreligious.

Get a grip on reality Based. You know exactly what I'm talking about

tbf, I think he misinterpreted Phink's thread about white women.

As for the post, I think he could've easily used any name to highlight the rampant hypocrisy of Somalis, although poor Phinks was used as a placeholder. Although Leftist's beliefs regarding slavery and other "controversial" aspects of Islam are usually wrong, I do respect his ability to examine the wholly superficial nature of post-civil war Somali Islam and the ridiculous notion that what we wear, the names we pick for our children, and the use of Arabic terms is in any way indicative of some sort of religious revival.

Despite all evidence (24+ years of unrelenting horror of almost every conceivable kind) pointing to the contrary, there are people who will unironically claim Somalis are now more religious than they used to be. Apparently a nation can become more religious although you kill people, steal their land, rape women to death, worship your clan ancestors, sell your clan to the highest bidder, sell your nation's resources to whoever, steal aid meant for your starving compatriots, accept bribes from foreign companies to literally dump nuclear waste in your seas, enslave/ethnically cleanse your ethnic minorities, force them to buy their own river water, use drugged up child soldiers to fight, invite foreign troops to occupy "enemy" territory and kill all who stand in your way, kill your neighbor because your colonial master drew a line on a map way back when and also because you don't like their particular "Arab" patriarch, kill your neighbor because you don't like their particular patriarch or their interpretation of the magical line, kill your neighbor because they don't like federalism, kill your neighbor because you don't like their interpretation of federalism, and worst of all, have refugees who fled that hellhole send cayr money to make refugees out of the other clan.

But yacni akhi we are much more religious because I wear a khamiis on Friday's and my children have reached the 5th juz, btw qolomaa tahay and lacagtii lagaa rabay ma haysaa?

Saaxib get a grip. Nowhere did I claim that Somalis were perfect, and your anecdotal stories of atrocities which have occurred over the past 25 years doesn't mean the overall trend in the opposite direction doesn't exist

Anyone who grew up during the Kacaan era would testify that Islam played a background role in Somali affairs during the 1970's and 1980's. Somalis rarely prayed, rarely fasted, and it was all too common to see Somali women exposing their arms, legs, and hair. I have Somali uncles telling me that anyone who even prayed 5 times a day during that era, was considered to be a "Sheikh" since doing so wasn't very common in Somali society.

And this isn't only something that went on in Somalia, in fact the ENTIRE Muslim world was like this as well, including Saudi Arabia. Back in the 1970's, the Muslims who lived in Egypt and Pakistan and Indonesia were secular--often Marxist--who thought religion was outdated and should play a background role in society.

Just look at what Gamal Abdel Nasser used to say about wearing the hijaab, and this was back in the 1960's:

This speech (and the reaction of the crowd) paints a pretty accurate picture of how Muslims used to think back in that era. Ask ANYONE who lived during that time and they'll tell you the same thing. There is an Islamic revival, it's very real, it's very strong, and it's taking place in every Muslim nation. Read about it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_revival

I thought Based was addressing the OP, Leftist, so how did you make it about you? Or you've just self-qarxised and Leftist is your other nick?

PS: And by the way, you're saying words like 'filthy secularists and atheists' and when people hit back and say something negative about your beliefs you'll be complaining to the mods and ask people to be banned "because they insulted Islam", right?

Osman, this guy was disputing my claim that Somalis are far more religious today than they were in the past. Read up about it, he's directly addressing me

Saaxib get a grip. Nowhere did I claim that Somalis were perfect, and your anecdotal stories of atrocities which have occurred over the past 25 years doesn't mean the overall trend in the opposite direction doesn't exist

Anyone who grew up during the Kacaan era would testify that Islam played a background role in Somali affairs during the 1970's and 1980's. Somalis rarely prayed, rarely fasted, and it was all too common to see Somali women exposing their arms, legs, and hair. I have Somali uncles telling me that anyone who even prayed 5 times a day during that era, was considered to be a "Sheikh" since doing so wasn't very common in Somali society.

So despite the complete devolution of our society and our almost normalized culture of violence, immorality, and vice since the civil war, we're now apparently a more pious people.

I don't believe piety can be measured by dress, prayer, or even knowledge alone. As I said before, our ostentatious piety and "devotion" to Islam (in the form of jilbaabs and petro-dugsis) cannot mask our society's seemingly unquenchable thirst for the blood of their brothers and our complete and utter devotion to the institution of qabiil, despite our faith's unequivocal condemnation of qabyaalad and its branding of those who engage in it as unbelievers.

We have masjids here in the west that are literally associated with particular subclans sxb. Islaamaha jilbaabyada la wada ordaaya and pushing the latest whips cayr beey wada qaataan and claim bf baa ilmaha ka wada dhalay. The same sheikh leading the prayers is raising money for tolka's federal state and/or appropriation of land from some minority group. The guy praying next to you would like nothing more on this earth than to see his clan prosper at the expense of yours.

Just take a look at snet....the same guys condemning atheists will be the first to post pictures/reports of war/famine/rape/displaced victims. Guys who have literally called for the extermination of Somalis with the wrong patriarch will be the first to tell you how much they despite atheists and gaalo.

If anything, the Somali people have reverted to the era of Jahiliyyah. They worship Marehan, they worship Habar Gedir, they worship Habar Yonis...Allah comes a distant second. To most Somalis, Islam is measured by how many khamiis/jilbaabs you own, how many times you've been seen praying in the front row of the masjid, and how Arabic sounding your kid's name is; their faith does not reach beyond their throats.













And because of that, secularism will win the day