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Re: Somali atheist from Toronto is anti Palestine

Postby LiquidHYDROGEN » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:13 am

LH, I was referring to AJ in passing, but mostly to MailMan's story my dear.

If any one were to say something as stupid as "Somalis are humiliating themselves and should cease to exist" (the sentiments I use to fight against very strongly here on this forum) I would react, because how can one even consider the destruction of millions of internally displaced people, many who are emaciated and need our help. I constantly advocate for Somalis to return home and start working here to build our (insert every industry sector) so that maybe our children can live in the Somalia that our b.s governments won't provide.

It isn't a 'better question'. As a human, if you heard someone say all ___ should be killed when maybe only 10% are the ones who are violent, you would laugh in the back row because they are not Somali? :?


Fade, exactly. It works (and works against :lol:) both ways.
No I would recognise that person as an irrational hate-monger and walk away. That's what Muslim extremists and radical atheists have in common, they're both irrational and fanatic, so arguing with them is a waste of time. My statement was in regards to people who only get offended when syrian or palestinian gets a paper cut but don't even share the same level of outrage against Somali, african, burman, kurdish suffering.

If any one were to say something as stupid as "Somalis are humiliating themselves and should cease to exist" (the sentiments I use to fight against very strongly here on this forum) I would react, because how can one even consider the destruction of millions of internally displaced people, many who are emaciated and need our help. I constantly advocate for Somalis to return home and start working here to build our (insert every industry sector) so that maybe our children can live in the Somalia that our b.s governments won't provide.[/size].
:up: And may Allah bless you for your patriotism and may you continue to do the good work. You are an exception, unfortunately, not the rule.

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Re: Somali atheist from Toronto is anti Palestine

Postby Marques » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:20 am

I don't see Palestinians who would even break a sweat to defend Somalis on Twitter, why must we always put these people above our own smh. I will never buy into the social media mantra of "Free Palestine". Arabs make up a quarter of 1.5 billion Muslims but could not stop Yahuud from going to town on them, not once, not twice, but THREE times. War waa ceebta aduunka, anagoo Soomaali ah ayaa ilaa Addis Ababa wax yar uga jirnay (waa dalkii la sheegahayay inuu gumaystaha weligiis aan qabsanin) ilaa quwadaha aduunka naga ceshtay maahanee, Carabtii dhamaa oo naga miisaan culus ayaa hadana wax isu hayn waayey.

Isreal vs Palestine is not a war of religion and anyone with the slightest in-depth knowledge of the Middle East knows this. That is why they (Palestinians) are on their own. Until the Palestinians change their wayward ways and ask for genuine support from the Muslim World, everyone will simply remain on stand-by.

I will never forget the day i came across an article where, running up to the years of Somalia's independence in the late 50s, nearly all the Arab states were against our independence, shamefully so that the Isrealis supported us just out of spite. Only Egypt considered itself a friend of Somalia, but none of these bastards did anything to help Somalia against Ethiopia. Aaway Islaamnimadooda waagaasba? Kaaga sii daran the bitch-state called Yemen, who at the time were divided into two parts and were sending us their war-stricken victims by boat since the 19-f-king-30s, even they sided with Ethiopia and today they are taking the piss out of us in their theatres.

Sayidkaa goor hore u gabyay nimankaan "Caloosha iyo madaxa ayay sidii dumar cantuugaane, maandhow cayaarta naga dhaafee, Carabu waa naage".

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Re: Somali atheist from Toronto is anti Palestine

Postby EvolSyawla » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:29 am

Amiin LH, surprising to hear that from you. And I am happy for the clarification.
"My statement was in regards to people who only get offended when syrian or palestinian gets a paper cut but don't even share the same level of outrage against Somali, african, burman, kurdish suffering."

Totally agree there. I guess if that was the sentiment shared in this thread, even if by one person, you guys wouldn't have had to charge in lol. No one said that (I think).

Marques, I didn't know all that. Thank you. If they can be sub-human and disregard the suffering of innocents though, why should we? Naxriis la'aan is not something to be proud about.

But anyways, I am done with this thread, I seem to be repeating myself at this point. I hope the tweeter chokes in his dinner and sees the wrong in his ways of supporting oppression/ass kissing lol whichever of the two he is doing.

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Re: Somali atheist from Toronto is anti Palestine

Postby Methylamine » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:55 am

I don't see Palestinians who would even break a sweat to defend Somalis on Twitter, why must we always put these people above our own smh. I will never buy into the social media mantra of "Free Palestine". Arabs make up a quarter of 1.5 billion Muslims but could not stop Yahuud from going to town on them, not once, not twice, but THREE times. War waa ceebta aduunka, anagoo Soomaali ah ayaa ilaa Addis Ababa wax yar uga jirnay (waa dalkii la sheegahayay inuu gumaystaha weligiis aan qabsanin) ilaa quwadaha aduunka naga ceshtay maahanee, Carabtii dhamaa oo naga miisaan culus ayaa hadana wax isu hayn waayey.

Isreal vs Palestine is not a war of religion and anyone with the slightest in-depth knowledge of the Middle East knows this. That is why they (Palestinians) are on their own. Until the Palestinians change their wayward ways and ask for genuine support from the Muslim World, everyone will simply remain on stand-by.

I will never forget the day i came across an article where, running up to the years of Somalia's independence in the late 50s, nearly all the Arab states were against our independence, shamefully so that the Isrealis supported us just out of spite. Only Egypt considered itself a friend of Somalia, but none of these bastards did anything to help Somalia against Ethiopia. Aaway Islaamnimadooda waagaasba? Kaaga sii daran the bitch-state called Yemen, who at the time were divided into two parts and were sending us their war-stricken victims by boat since the 19-f-king-30s, even they sided with Ethiopia and today they are taking the piss out of us in their theatres.

Sayidkaa goor hore u gabyay nimankaan "Caloosha iyo madaxa ayay sidii dumar cantuugaane, maandhow cayaarta naga dhaafee, Carabu waa naage".
Wa arrin yaab walle, Somalida waxay caawiyan shisheeyada before their own. Some fcked up shit

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Re: Somali atheist from Toronto is anti Palestine

Postby Murax » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:09 am

I agree with LiquidHydrogen,

Arguing with the atheists on the far left or the extreme on the right is no point.



As for the subject, I'll say is it fundamentally wrong the card Palestinians have been dealt? Sure I'll acknowledge that. However You can say the same thing about Central African Republic, Burma, China, etc. I don't see why one should horde all the attention over the other. I can't deny there is a sentiment in Me that says either lets talk about them all or none at all.
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Re: Somali atheist from Toronto is anti Palestine

Postby Tanker » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:10 am

Israel was the first country in the world who recognized Somali Independence and Somali sovereignty we should reward them by rejecting the Palestine Question.

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Re: Somali atheist from Toronto is anti Palestine

Postby Based » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:16 am

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Re: Somali atheist from Toronto is anti Palestine

Postby Murax » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:20 am

Btw, someone here mentioned the living conditions in Gaza Vs the average person in Somalia. Let Me just say for the record strictly living standards wise I'd rather live in Gaza than anywhere in Somalia. Its not even close.

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Re: Somali atheist from Toronto is anti Palestine

Postby original dervish » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:25 am

I care about the Palestinians.....but not enough to get into fights. :)

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Re: Somali atheist from Toronto is anti Palestine

Postby TheMailMan » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:35 am

I agree with LiquidHydrogen,

Arguing with the atheists on the far left or the extreme on the right is no point.



As for the subject, I'll say is it fundamentally wrong the card Palestinians have been dealt? Sure I'll acknowledge that. However You can say the same thing about Central African Republic, Burma, China, etc. I don't see why one should horde all the attention over the other. I can't deny there is a sentiment in Me that says either lets talk about them all or none at all.
What's the illogic which exists on this forum?

You will never see people sympathizing with the Christian mobs killing Muslims in Central African Republic, or the Buddhist mobs killing Muslims in Burma, or the Chinese Government oppressing the Uyghur Muslims.

No one says anything because these Muslims dying are Black and Asians.

But as soon as Palestine is ever brought up, you have some Somalis here actually sympathizing with Israel.

Double standards wallahi. Only a f-king savage would approve of what the Zionists are doing in Palestine


My advice for those Somalis is: Either say something nice or say nothing at all. No one wants to hear you bending over to kiss Israel's ass, you Uncle Toms

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Re: Somali atheist from Toronto is anti Palestine

Postby TheMailMan » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:37 am

I don't obsess over the issue in Palestine. I see them the same way I see Central African Muslims, Burmese Muslims, and Chechen Muslims being oppressed.

The only difference is that I know I'm a Muslim and my loyalty lies towards other Muslims being oppressed.

You don't see Snetters mocking the plight of Burmese Muslims or Chechen Muslims, but as soon as Palestine is brought up, everyone here is rushing to degrade them.

Fuck you

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Re: Somali atheist from Toronto is anti Palestine

Postby Murax » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:16 pm

I agree with LiquidHydrogen,

Arguing with the atheists on the far left or the extreme on the right is no point.



As for the subject, I'll say is it fundamentally wrong the card Palestinians have been dealt? Sure I'll acknowledge that. However You can say the same thing about Central African Republic, Burma, China, etc. I don't see why one should horde all the attention over the other. I can't deny there is a sentiment in Me that says either lets talk about them all or none at all.
What's the illogic which exists on this forum?

You will never see people sympathizing with the Christian mobs killing Muslims in Central African Republic, or the Buddhist mobs killing Muslims in Burma, or the Chinese Government oppressing the Uyghur Muslims.

No one says anything because these Muslims dying are Black and Asians.

But as soon as Palestine is ever brought up, you have some Somalis here actually sympathizing with Israel.

Double standards wallahi. Only a f-king savage would approve of what the Zionists are doing in Palestine


My advice for those Somalis is: Either say something nice or say nothing at all. No one wants to hear you bending over to kiss Israel's ass, you Uncle Toms

That's My point. Me simply saying I don't understand why all Muslim blood is as valued as Palestinians blood means I'm "Pro Zionist"? Again I repeat, Palestinians have been wronged, so have many other Muslims. Lets lament their treatment equally.

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Re: Somali atheist from Toronto is anti Palestine

Postby FarhanYare » Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:34 pm

Btw, someone here mentioned the living conditions in Gaza Vs the average person in Somalia. Let Me just say for the record strictly living standards wise I'd rather live in Gaza than anywhere in Somalia. Its not even close.
The living conditions of Gaza is hell-hole like, don't get side tracked by the better infrastructure Gaza has compared to Somalia. Without the blockade i would say you are right.

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Re: Somali atheist from Toronto is anti Palestine

Postby Basra- » Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:40 pm

I've met people like him before. Absolutely insufferable people. I once knew this Somali Atheist guy who openly stated in the middle of class that he wishes that the entire Arab World be nuked, and that he proudly supports Israel. And we were the only 2 Somalis in the entire classroom full of Ajnaabis....

Let's just say that I had to be restrained by 4 people and escorted out of class when I heard him say that......

Mali

I hate to say this, but that looks like u. :stylin:

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Re: Somali atheist from Toronto is anti Palestine

Postby FarhanYare » Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:40 pm

Marq,
u are right arabta dad mahan lakiin anyone with shred of bani'aadan-niimo would be drawn to the Palestinian cause even if what you said is true that back in the gumeysi days Palestinians didn't come out against the brutal colonisation, but then why would they when in that same period they were dealing with mass exodus of yahuud refugees in to their country?


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