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Re: "Practising Islam In Short Shorts"

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:06 am
by Niya

..........This bit did resonate with me too. However, couldn't you argue that extreme patriarchy has always been present since the begining of time- where do we draw the line?

Does that not then imply that we disregard the works of the pious predecessors and giants in Islamic scholarship as being unable to remove patriarchal lenses?

Thanks for the book. I'll try to locate it. Seems interesting. :up:
Ina Samaale, what women need to do is to study the Quran, Islamic laws, hadith, history of Islam, really become scholars of Islam to be able to separate the fluff/bias from the Message. The pious predecessors did not operate in a vacuum but in the context of their time. It is with knowledge that one will be able to discern what is the authentic message and what has been influenced by normative analysis of the the message especially as it pertains to women and cultural norms .

Re: "Practising Islam In Short Shorts"

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:37 am
by ZubeirAwal
Imam Ghazali was a Sufi, nothing in his books could be categorized as 'misguidance'.

Re: "Practising Islam In Short Shorts"

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 10:40 am
by Adali
Blah blah blah, spare me the melodrama will you, true jihad means self-struggle and self-improvement.
:Obama:

If I was a betting man I would say you didn't read more than the first paragraph.

Re: "Practising Islam In Short Shorts"

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:09 am
by Cherine

..........This bit did resonate with me too. However, couldn't you argue that extreme patriarchy has always been present since the begining of time- where do we draw the line?

Does that not then imply that we disregard the works of the pious predecessors and giants in Islamic scholarship as being unable to remove patriarchal lenses?

Thanks for the book. I'll try to locate it. Seems interesting. :up:
Ina Samaale, what women need to do is to study the Quran, Islamic laws, hadith, history of Islam, really become scholars of Islam to be able to separate the fluff/bias from the Message. The pious predecessors did not operate in a vacuum but in the context of their time. It is with knowledge that one will be able to discern what is the authentic message and what has been influenced by normative analysis of the the message especially as it pertains to women and cultural norms .
:up:

Re: "Practising Islam In Short Shorts"

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:36 pm
by Present
@Niya, I think you're alluding to what's known as "Fiqh of Time & Place"- where flexiblity is given to local customs/cultural aspects of a society. I have Muslims friends from all over-some have women and men entering from the same Masjid door or same ablution area with different timings for each gender, and some cultures completely restrict their women from the masjid altogether! When I see the latter I thank Allah for dadkeena with all our issues :D

Re: "Practising Islam In Short Shorts"

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:24 am
by InaSamaale

..........This bit did resonate with me too. However, couldn't you argue that extreme patriarchy has always been present since the begining of time- where do we draw the line?

Does that not then imply that we disregard the works of the pious predecessors and giants in Islamic scholarship as being unable to remove patriarchal lenses?

Thanks for the book. I'll try to locate it. Seems interesting. :up:
Ina Samaale, what women need to do is to study the Quran, Islamic laws, hadith, history of Islam, really become scholars of Islam to be able to separate the fluff/bias from the Message. The pious predecessors did not operate in a vacuum but in the context of their time. It is with knowledge that one will be able to discern what is the authentic message and what has been influenced by normative analysis of the the message especially as it pertains to women and cultural norms .
:up:
Can't argue with that. Definitely a dire need.