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Somali Potential Is Dangerous (Quotes about Somalis from Colonial Era)

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Re: Somali Potential Is Dangerous (Quotes about Somalis from Colonial Era)

Postby MaliPrince » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:49 pm

Many people sneak dissin' saying that I recall the bravery of Somalis only if the White man says so, I just found this and I thought it to be interesting reading upon the opinions of what was then the world hegemony :holdup:
also these clowns are selective about which white man they quote. you'll never see quotes from Sir Richard Burton calling our people animals and simple minded children.
Af somali maad ku hadasha? hadaad ku hadli kartid bal wax soo qor, hal kalimad ha soo qorin ee line yar oo an fahmeyno bal soo qor
war af somali waaan qoorikara iyo waan fahmekara. maxaa raabtaa inaan kuu sheego?

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Re: Somali Potential Is Dangerous (Quotes about Somalis from Colonial Era)

Postby MoAwr » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:50 pm

Burton's book is interesting. It told us about how Somalis back then acted,what they wore, clan relations,clan borders etc.
I still don't like that English spy. I take his slanted writing with a grain of salt.
:up: agree

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Re: Somali Potential Is Dangerous (Quotes about Somalis from Colonial Era)

Postby ZubeirAwal » Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:12 pm

Here is a rough description of Berbera, it was only inhabited during the trade season which was from the 15th of November to the 15th of April, the two largest caravans came from Harar led by the Hereri people, and the other came from the Ogadens

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Re: Somali Potential Is Dangerous (Quotes about Somalis from Colonial Era)

Postby Lancer » Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:22 pm

The most important trading place on the coast :Obama:

Traders and Merchants, Reer Berbera were ahead of their time they didn't settle only for the nomadic life. :up:

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Re: Somali Potential Is Dangerous (Quotes about Somalis from Colonial Era)

Postby MaliPrince » Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:35 pm

The most important trading place on the coast :Obama:

Traders and Merchants, Reer Berbera were ahead of their time they didn't settle only for the nomadic life. :up:
nomadic life = being a somali.

the magaac itself says that only the nomads were considered somali. "soo-maal" = go milk.

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Re: Somali Potential Is Dangerous (Quotes about Somalis from Colonial Era)

Postby ZubeirAwal » Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:40 pm

The most important trading place on the coast :Obama:

Traders and Merchants, Reer Berbera were ahead of their time they didn't settle only for the nomadic life. :up:
nomadic life = being a somali.

the magaac itself says that only the nomads were considered somali. "soo-maal" = go milk.
That's a theory, the Somali spoken 200 years ago is something almost different to what we speak today, and the first time the word Somali was used was in a poem by a Ethiopian king some 500-700 years ago, it's just a theory.

Like the theory of all Somalis coming from this mythological " Samaale"

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Re: Somali Potential Is Dangerous (Quotes about Somalis from Colonial Era)

Postby Lancer » Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:46 pm

Even if it is true that nomadic life equal being a Somali, are you telling me the millions of Somali today who live in cities or engage in other livelihoods such as farming or fishing are not Somalis? What kind of logic is that?

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Re: Somali Potential Is Dangerous (Quotes about Somalis from Colonial Era)

Postby MaliPrince » Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:52 pm

Even if it is true that nomadic life equal being a Somali, are you telling me the millions of Somali today who live in cities or engage in other livelihoods such as farming or fishing are not Somalis? What kind of logic is that?
what I'm saying is 500 years ago the only people referred to as somali were the nomads.

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Postby LiquidHYDROGEN » Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:20 pm

^^^^^Chatting shit as always. Why don't you go back to doing what you do best, like playing tom and Jerry with Mailman?

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Re: Somali Potential Is Dangerous (Quotes about Somalis from Colonial Era)

Postby ZubeirAwal » Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:24 pm

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:russ: A British pioneer sent on a expedition escaping imprisonment at the hands of the Habar Awal near Berbera, he was with Richard Burton and another man who camped at Berbera after the trade fair, and had their camp raided at 2 AM, his comrades deserted him and he was imprisoned, set to be killed by the Habar Awal, this nigga previously was with the Warsangeli Sultan for a few months and had exercise some kind of authority in their land, by often threatening them with the power of the governer of Aden, but that didn't mean shit to the Habar Awal :russ:

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Re: Somali Potential Is Dangerous (Quotes about Somalis from Colonial Era)

Postby MasterStro » Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:46 am

"A Somali always felt himself to be twice as good as any white man, or any other kind of man at all, and still does, even when he is wrong. Islam does wonders for the self respect of non-white people and Christianity is right to worry about the spread of Islam in Africa, and must honestly face the question of why it has happened - "


"Of all the desiccated, bitter, cruel, sunbeaten wildernesses which starve and thirst beyond the edges of Africa's luscious, jungled centre, there cannot be one more Christless than the one which begins at the northern foot of Mount Kenya and stretches to the foothills of Abyssinia, and from there to the dried-out glittering tip of Cape Gardafui where the hot karif winds blow in from where the long sharks race under the thin blue skin of the ocean. You can never think of those wildernesses without thinking of daggers and spears, rolling fierce eyes under mops of dusty black crinkly hair, of mad stubborn camels, rocks too hot to touch, and blood feuds whose origins cannot be remembered, only honoured in the stabbing. But of all the races of Africa there cannot be one better to live among than the most difficult, the proudest, the bravest, the vainest, the most merciless, the friendliest; the Somalis."



"I never saw a Somali who showed any fear of death, which, impressive though it sounds, carries within it the chill of pitilessness and ferocity as well. If you have no fear of death you have none for anybody else's either, but that fearlessness has always been essential to the Somalis who have had to try and survive hunger, disease and thirst while prepared to fight and die against their enemies, their fellow Somalis for pleasure in the blood feud, or the Ethiopians who would like to rule them, or the white men who got in the way for a while."

"Everytime a Somali got whipped, an Italian soldier was killed"

"Wandering in The Shag (desert) were Somalis with some of the sharpest intelligences in the continent, nomads who had been forced into being parasites of the camel, for centuries, and could anyone ever find a way of using all that courage and intelligence?"

"There is no one alive as tough as the Somali nomad. No one.
An askari wounded in a fight in the Haud country walked 14 miles holding his guts in his hand, was sewn up and lived to soldier again. And the women are as spiritually strong as their men."

"....You get into that way of thinking in the Somali waste. You think that way because the Somalis bitterly resent the white man, and struggle continually, and admirably, by lies and intrigue, to fight off his influence which spells the end of their peculiar world. You cannot beat them. They have no inferiority complexes, no wide-eyed worship of the white man's ways, and no fear of him, of his guns or of his official anger. They are a race to be admired, if hard to love."


"The British colonials always sympathized with the Somalis, as they were free and could do whatever they want, some British were Somaliphiles while a Somali wouldn't hesitate in killing a British person. Somalis deeply hated the White man and all Ajnabis (Non-Somalis)".

"The Somalis and their cousins in Ethiopia were cunning, treacherous, and deceitful, none could be trusted lest he may entrap you and kill you"

"The Somalis killed many Europeans living in Somalia, they even forced them to pay taxes while they did nothing. Their hero The 'Sayyid Ina Abdilaahi Xassan' has killed hundreds of Europeans including Col. Richard Corfield who was a Somaliphile and recognized the Somali fight for freedom. Before Mohammed another man named Imam Ahmed (the Lefthanded) who is also a hero in Somali tradition fought the Portugese who were looking for Prestor John when they stumbled upon the Islamic conquest of the Ethiopian Christian kingdom. Their leader was Cristovao da Gama son of famed explorer Vasco da Gama. Ahmed killed him in battle and beheaded him and discarded his body in a nearby spring. Before da Gama was killed he was captured, tortured and forced to convert to Islam; once he refused he was killed".

"The Somalis in the neighborhood are treacherous, proud, and turbulent, and the Governor and his guard are really prisoners in on the forts which they built"-Italian Somalia


"If the British didn't come in Kenya the Somalis and their cousins the Borana warlike nomadic people from the north would've wiped the Kikuyu (Bantu natives of Kenya), who were in fear of these marauding nomads".

"If a Somali offers himself to a foreigner whether Black or White abroad and says he/she wants to marry him, he/she does not out of love but to gain citizenship and bring his/her family and throw that person in the garbage."

"All the Africans in Africa except for North Africans and other Horn of Africans of whom they are cousins consider the Somalis an undesirable bunch and a deceitful people. Most African nations except for the Arab nations and the North Africans have refused to accept them. Those who did, like Kenya, South Africa, and Uganda the economy is now in their hands."
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"If a Somali gets in trouble in Kenya or any of these African nations that took Somalis in, all a Somali has to do is bribe him with a few dollars and nothing happens".

"A Somali can be extremly cruel and murderous towards other Somalis if they have no other enemies around, but as soon as an enemy attacks them they all form a union and forget their problems because now they have a common enemy".

"The Ethiopians of whom are called "Highland People" and the Somalis of whom are called "Lowland People" have been enemies since the Somalis rebelled and separated from them. Both have a desire to rule each other, but history has showed European meddling to stop this".

"In Somali oral history the Hyena is a representation of cowardice and especially a representation of non-Somali peoples who are enemies towards them, while the fox who is a representation of cunning, intelligence, and deceit is important because its a representation of the Somali people".

"The Somalis boast that over 100 nations came to their land to conquer but yet never did this includes: Britons, Germans, Italians, French, Ethiopians, Greeks, Arabs, Persians, and so on. And they were all defeated especially the well armed White Man".

"A Somali was never taken to jail lest he may die in there, the Europeans would spare of him of it because of the many arguments of the Somali people, that prisons were only for slaves and foreigners".

"It always seemed that the Somali along with his camel seemed to view the White stranger in the homeland with equal contempt".

"White men and women couldn't have children in British Somaliland if they wanted to they had to bear their children elsewhere, this was a law of the Somali elders. If White children were to be born in any Somali lands the child would be killed or taken away and be raised as a Muslim."


:damn: If our potential is manifested it can be something powerful.
Good read.

I think the Somalis of yestaryear where probably more noble and decent than most Somalis of today.

One interesting thing I read on one of those travel guide things went on about how people will always want a payment for simple things like giving directions in Ethiopia and the fact that Somalis on the other hand, will help without expecting anything in return. There was even a short story about how some Somali guy went out of his way and gave a lift to Some travellers and they offered him some money and he declined :clap:


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