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somalinet News is Darod News: Sick!

Postby Otali » Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:46 am

This is fuuckin hilarious!

No sources
No evidence

... Fuuckers just making up shiit and trying to smear. UNBELIEABLE.

Have any of you even glanced at the so called news sections HERE, it is one ugly piece of shiit!

Not to mention riddled with basic grammatical and other spelling mistakes, do
these fuuck heads even have a clue?
What can they accomplish using pseudo yellow journalism---darod dimwitted idiots— who in their right mind is going to EVER listen to a darod concerning ANYTHING about mogadishu hahahaha, I mean, do you have any shame?

Mogadishu?

Who THE HELL taught how to write mogadishu, i thought we've been through this again Confused

shocked and dismayed by the utter malicious intent of somalinet...

This is the kind of bullshiit that tarnishes any attempt at civilized Somali unity or any discourse for that matter.

Are we even to attempt to exercise our literacy, forget about rationality, in the face of such banality?

GO HOME YOU FUUCKERS, GET BIRD FLUE SHOTS.

I WARN YOU

LEAVE THE TRIBAL HATRED AT HOME OUT OF CYBERSPACE


THIS IS NO TIME TO START THOSE SHENANIGANS FROM UNHCR CAMPS TO SOMALINET...WE TRYING TO AT LEAST GET THE SOMALI FIRST

AH, FUUCK YOU

THE PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO LIVE AND PROSPER IN MOGADISHU, OUR HOME AND NATIVE LAND

AND KEEP ON PANDERING THIS BULLSHIIT, COWARDS oops: Exclamation

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Postby Otali » Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:52 am

stop playing around with my icons, you know very well i did NOT write "opps". Childish, take criticism you motherfuuckers, TAKE IT Exclamation

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Postby maria from west side » Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:28 am

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Postby Galol » Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:05 am

Otali

No doubt their news section is amateurish, biased, unsourced and on occassion bordering on the ludicrous. their biased support for Yusuf is clear and obvious. But is it Darodism, Mijerteinism or to be generous just good nationalism?

I mean truth be said, you Hawiyes fucked up big time, destroying your city and resorting to the moxog-eating ignoble son of monkeys you always were, no offense meant.

When the Darods ran Mog it was one of the cleanest, most beautiful, most peaceful cities anywhere in africa, perhaps the world.

Now after ten years of Hawiye rule it is a mad-max filthmound and one of the most dangerous places on earth.

It is to do with history. hawiye never ran anything ever except their cows. they were not part of the great movements of Somalia at all. Unlike Darods and isaqs, they did not have sultantes or Kingdoms. They were not involved in the Darwaish wars neither as foes or friends. During Colonial times the Isaqs ran their fief under the British turning their cities into hubs of commerce and power. The Darods although having no towns or cities of their own, managed to control the South through sheer will of power and nobility. They continued their supremacy after independence taking over not only you but us as well. We didn't mind because at lesat we had business to control the hawiyes had neither business nor political power.

This is what happens when those who were not accustomed to authority suddenly seize its reins. Let Darod bring sanity to you. You can have your cows and your dirty blankets back.

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Postby gurey25 » Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:15 am

Galol

What about the Ajuraan Sultanate, which was mostly hawiye.
And when the Hawiye rebeled there was a short lived Hiraab Sultanate with the captial at hobyo.

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Postby Galol » Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:30 am

Gurey

The Ajuran are not really hawiye at all. They are closer to Eyles of upper Jubba than to the Hawiyes of central and Sothern Somalia. But even Olol Dinle although a warrior, did not build any centres of authority or trade. He was more like the Aqils of the North just managing their clans through consensus but not actually establishing systems of governance.

I want a showdown with hawiyes because i despise them for what they did to the country and are still doing it. Why can't these moronic sons of bitches sit down together, talk, agree on issues, divide power, establish a constitution, disarm their boys and start reconstruction? We did from ground zero with our cities completely shattered by the Somali airforce and army. they were attacked by neither since both were busy with us.

We did it and to lesser extent so did the Dhabayaco although having no cities at all. Bosaso, previously a shithole hamlet of two flies and snot is now far more advanced than Mogadshu and far safrer and tolerant and cosmopolitan. You can easily live in Bosaso no matter where you come from but you can't do that in Mogadishu.

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Postby Gladiator= » Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:40 am

[quote="Galol"]Otali

No doubt their news section is amateurish, biased, unsourced and on occassion bordering on the ludicrous. their biased support for Yusuf is clear and obvious. But is it Darodism, Mijerteinism or to be generous just good nationalism?

I mean truth be said, you Hawiyes **** up big time, destroying your city and resorting to the moxog-eating ignoble son of monkeys you always were, no offense meant.

When the Darods ran Mog it was one of the cleanest, most beautiful, most peaceful cities anywhere in africa, perhaps the world.

Now after ten years of Hawiye rule it is a mad-max filthmound and one of the most dangerous places on earth.

It is to do with history. hawiye never ran anything ever except their cows. they were not part of the great movements of Somalia at all. Unlike Darods and isaqs, they did not have sultantes or Kingdoms. They were not involved in the Darwaish wars neither as foes or friends. During Colonial times the Isaqs ran their fief under the British turning their cities into hubs of commerce and power. The Darods although having no towns or cities of their own, managed to control the South through sheer will of power and nobility. They continued their supremacy after independence taking over not only you but us as well. We didn't mind because at lesat we had business to control the hawiyes had neither business nor political power.

This is what happens when those who were not accustomed to authority suddenly seize its reins. Let Darod bring sanity to you. You can have your cows and your dirty blankets back.[/quote]

Galool, i ponder all the time why these monkeys cry when they can't do anything good to their lives? They always cry cry cry and i wonder why?



We want to build something for them but they whine all the time.


They can 't come up with something.



Otali, dhiladii ku dhashey wase, nacaladyahey fooshaxun ee adoonta aheed wase haaweeyahey, cabaadka jooji.

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Postby Intruder » Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:00 am

I have PMed the Admin long time ago and asked him to classify that section to say "Political Commentary" because what they have on there is certainly not news but commentary and opinions.

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Postby Daanyeer » Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:03 am

Though i wouldn't use Clan TERMINOLGY, i agree with the fact that the news is BIAS.




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Postby Cawar » Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:13 am

"I mean truth be said, you Hawiyes **** up big time, destroying your city and resorting to the moxog-eating ignoble son of monkeys you always were, no offense meant. Now after ten years of Hawiye rule it is a mad-max filthmound and one of the most dangerous places on earth"

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing



"When the Darods ran Mog it was one of the cleanest, most beautiful, most peaceful cities anywhere in africa, perhaps the world".


Galol

You are one funny son of agun, but I never knew you has this much(even if it tiny) nationalism in you, or perhaps the fact that you missed Xamar Cadde more than Hargeysa!!!!!!!!!!!!! Laughing

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Postby optimist_1 » Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:00 pm

[quote="Galol"]

It is to do with history. hawiye never ran anything ever except their cows. they were not part of the great movements of Somalia at all. Unlike Darods and isaqs, they did not have sultantes or Kingdoms. They were not involved in the Darwaish wars neither as foes or friends. During Colonial times the Isaqs ran their fief under the British turning their cities into hubs of commerce and power. The Darods although having no towns or cities of their own, managed to control the South through sheer will of power and nobility. They continued their supremacy after independence taking over not only you but us as well. We didn't mind because at lesat we had business to control the hawiyes had neither business nor political power.

This is what happens when those who were not accustomed to authority suddenly seize its reins. Let Darod bring sanity to you. You can have your cows and your dirty blankets back.[/quote]

the mudulood were running Xamar before the Ajuraan took the city Embarassed

See ibn batata he encountered mudulood at the city.

Why do you think we rebbeled at the sudden overtaking of the Ajuraan it was Darandoole kicking them out of Mogadishu and Murusade kicking the Ajuraan out of Ceelbuur all the way to Kenya Embarassed then came the Hiraab that was ended by the around 1870-1890 we had resisted against the portugese several times but Italians came with they went to every Hiraab leader and bribed with Sugar and some other kind of goods. Same thing happened with Majerteen. The british did their things with Force Warsangeli and Isaaq never resisted infact they helped the British Laughing

The Ajuraan were expelled to Eyle grounds but are not closely related to them as with Hawiye

Who was the first to run the Country? Wasn't Aden Cadde Ujeeden Mudulood?

The SYL choose him as a leader so how can you question it?

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Postby Otali » Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:12 pm

dalol

you ARE fuuckin illiterate dumb ass

How did Darod ruled Mogadishu, the oldest city in sub-saharan africa? hahaha

do you know where mogadishu is located?

you fuuckin BAFFOON.

it was the WHITE MAN starting in 1920s that brought in so called first "Darod" for the first time into Southern Somalia. Period. He did this because after evaluating the untrustworthy and treacherous nature of the darod who volunteered to sell themselves and uphold his rule, he used them as a spies, prostitutes, massage boys in Hawiye territories to suppress the righteous people. After 1960 when the Italian left the Darod were allowed to continue to live in Mogadishu shockingly as it may be given their heinous record of collboration and even managed to sipp into Juba areas. They nor built a single house or tree in that however after 1990s Mogadishu has once again regaid its glorious past as THE ECONOMIC AND LARGEST SETTLEMENT OF ALL SOMALIS and will always be THE CAPITAL OF HAWIYE.

AND YOU DON'T BELONG GAYHOLE THERE, SO DON'T PASS THROUGH


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Ibn Battuta's Account of Mogadishu
1325-1354
Ibn Battuta, an Arab traveller. For an account of his travels in the 14th century go to Medieval Sourcebook: Ibn Battuta: Travels in Asia and Africa 1325-1354l. Therein you find the following account:
"The town of Mogadishu in Somalia On leaving Zayla we sailed for fifteen days and came to Maqdasha [Mogadishu], which is an enormous town. Its inhabitants are merchants and have many camels, of which they slaughter hundreds every day [for food]. When a vessel reaches the port, it is met by sumbuqs, which are small boats, in each of which are a number of young men, each carrying a covered dish containing food. He presents this to one of the merchants on the ship saying "This is my guest," and all the others do the same. Each merchant on disembarking goes only to the house of the young man who is his host, except those who have made frequent journeys to the town and know its people well; these live where they please. The host then sells his goods for him and buys for him, and if anyone buys anything from him at too low a price, or sells to him in the absence of his host, the sale is regarded by them as invalid. This practice is of great advantage to them. We stayed there [in Mogadishu] three days, food being brought to us three times a day, and on the fourth, a Friday, the qadi and one of the wazirs brought me a set of garments. We then went to the mosque and prayed behind the [sultan's] screen. When the Shaykh came out I greeted him and he bade me welcome. He put on his sandals, ordering the qadi and myself to do the same, and set out for his palace on foot. All the other people walked barefooted. Over his head were carried four canopies of coloured silk, each surmounted by a golden bird. After the palace ceremonies were over, all those present saluted and retired."

Despite the lack of a good harbour Mogadishu was an important port during the 11th and 12th centuries. During that period it controlled the flow of gold from southeast Africa and ivory from east Africa.


Zheng He and Fei Xin 1304-1435

For comparison, the Muslim traveler Ibn Battuta (1304-1369) visited the East Coast of Africa about a century earlier than Zheng He and Fei Xin, in 1331. He visited Mogadishu, which he described as “a town of enormous size. Its merchants are possessed of vast resources; they own large numbers of camels, of which they slaughter hundreds every day [for food], and also have quantities of sheep. In this place are manufactured the woven fabrics called after it, which are unequalled and exported from it to Egypt and elsewhere.”

Zheng He's Inscription of Mogadishu 1435 :

The country of Mugudushu (Mogadishu) presented huafu lu ("striped" zebras) as well as lions. The country of Bulawa (Brava) presented camels which run one thousand li as well as camel-birds (ostriches). The countries of Zhaowa (Java) and Guli (Calicut) presented the animal miligao. They all vied in presenting the marvellous objects preserved in the mountains or hidden in the seas and the beautiful treasures buried in the sand or deposited on the shores. Some sent a maternal uncle of the king, others a paternal uncle or a younger brother of the king in order to present a letter of homage written on gold leaf as well as tribute.



VASCO DA GAMA and the Portuguese in Mogadishu 1421-1500s

“On sighting Mogadishu the Portuguese bombarded it. ‘Their aggression was probably due to their weakness’ says the European recordings the passage. ‘The aim being to deter any local ship from coming out to attack them!!!’ As only the Portuguese ships had cannons mounted on their bows this sounds odd.”

Arrival of the Portuguese

A Portuguese carrack before the wind. © NMM
The Portuguese arrived from the south at the end of the 15th century. They were commanded by Vasco Da Gama. They embarked on a series of attacks along the Somali coast:
• bombarding Mogadishu in 1499
• placing Brava under Portuguese protection in 1503
• burning Zeila in 1516
• sacking Berbera in 1518.
Despite these attacks Portuguese control was erratic and by the mid-16th century the Somali had reached the mainland opposite the Lamu Archipelago.
In the early 20th century there was an area within the city of Mogadishu that was inhabited by seamen and traders. Some of these traders claimed part Portuguese and part Indian ancestry.

Mogadishu, Somalia
In the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, the southern city of Mogadishu became Somalia's most important city. Mogadishu, Merca, and Baraawe, had been major Somali coastal towns in medieval times. Their origins are unknown, but by the fourteenth century travelers were mentioning the three towns more and more as important centers of urban ease and learning. Mogadishu, the largest and most prosperous, dates back at least to the ninth century, when Persian and Arabian immigrants intermingled with Somali elements to produce a distinctive hybrid culture. The meaning of Mogadishu's name is uncertain. Some render it as a Somali version of the Arabic "maqad shah," or "imperial seat of the shah," thus hinting at a Persian role in the city's founding. Others consider it a Somali mispronunciation of the Swahili "mwyu wa" (last northern city), raising the possibility of its being the northernmost of the chain of Swahili city-states on the East African coast. Whatever its origin, Mogadishu was at the zenith of its prosperity when the well-known Arab traveler Ibn Batuta appeared on the Somali coast in 1331. Ibn Batuta describes "Maqdashu" as "an exceedingly large city" with merchants who exported to Egypt and elsewhere the excellent cloth made in the city.
Through commerce, proselytization, and political influence, Mogadishu and other coastal commercial towns influenced the Banaadir hinterlands (the rural areas outlying Mogadishu) in the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries. Evidence of that influence was the increasing Islamization of the interior by sufis (Muslim mystics) who emigrated upcountry, where they settled among the nomads, married local women, and brought Islam to temper the random violence of the inhabitants.
By the end of the sixteenth century, the locus of intercommunication shifted upland to the well-watered region between the Shabeelle and Jubba rivers. Evidence of the shift of initiative from the coast to the interior may be found in the rise between 1550 and 1650 of the Ujuuraan (also seen as Ajuuraan) state, which prospered on the lower reaches of the interriverine region under the clan of the Gareen. The considerable power of the Ujuuraan state was not diminished until the Portuguese penetration of the East African coast in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. Among Somali towns and cities, only Mogadishu successfully resisted the repeated depredations of the Portuguese.

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Postby Mad_Dog206 » Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:37 am

the first time Habr gider seen mogadishu was 1991. Cool

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Postby Gladiator= » Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:41 am

This history has nothing to do with Haaweey recruiting every clan as theirs.


if ajuuran was in mogadisho today, the city would have prosperred, but the ajuuraan immigrated to kenya and they are very tiny today . the hawiye wiped them off and chased them out of somalia.


focking haaweey, u will always be cawaandi barbarian.

dhilayahey wax hawiye ku qoran na tus.

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Postby QansaGabeyle » Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:29 am

According to the post by Otali, it was the portoguese who defeated the Ajuuraan and not the hawiye. I am guessing the hawiye were lackeys who were put in power after the ajuuraan defeat by the portoguese.


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