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Re: Why do somalis think they are African Americans?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 12:35 pm
by SahanGalbeed
I get along pretty well witrh all the african americans in my neighbourhood . I see certain things I don't like { behaviour, sidey isu galaan dhexdooda , iyo sida bahasha ugu foolxun naagaha cadaanka ay isu daba dhigaan } but it has to do with many reasons , one of which is the fact they don't have a tribe like I do {incentive}
Therefore , you can act 2 ways .
Like you or me, confident about his own identity while open to others

Re: Why do somalis think they are African Americans?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 1:11 pm
by SahanGalbeed
Are you gonna make a thread about African Americans everyday , coz I just wanna give you the heads up , I won't be here tomorrow :lol: , in my quality of Ansar al Absent .{defender of he who is not here }

Re: Why do somalis think they are African Americans?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 1:12 pm
by Kaafiye
Gegiroor, many racist Whites believe that Punjabi Sikhs are actually Arab Muslims. They see the turban and the beard and they mistakenly believe that these Sikhs are Muslim when they're actually not.

Should the Sikhs identify themselves as Muslim!? Yes or no.

Re: Why do somalis think they are African Americans?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 1:41 pm
by gegiroor
Sikhs are not Muslims, but when I apply for a job and optional questions asked about my race, I check black. However, Sikhs would check Asian. If religion is asked, they would check Sikh and I would check Muslim. My goodness, what are talking about here? In my previous comments, I talked about institutionalized racism and how it affects us just like all blacks, and you're talking about what redneck thinks about the head turbans that Sikhs wear?

Re: Why do somalis think they are African Americans?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 1:50 pm
by SonofANomad
Sikhs are not Muslims, but when I apply for a job and optional questions asked about my race, I check black. However, Sikhs would check Asian. If religion is asked, they would check Sikh and I would check Muslim. My goodness, what are talking about here? In my previous comments, I talked about institutionalized racism and how it affects us just like all blacks, and you're talking about what redneck thinks about the head turbans that Sikhs wear?
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Sikhs are targeted and receive hate becuz people think sikhs are arabs!

They get constantly abused and violence by police officers and civilians!

Kaffiye was trying to make a point! Are Indian sikhs arabs becuz They look the same dress the same and treated the same way!

So the question is are Sikhs arabs?

Dont try to Dodge it!

If ur talking about race i check somali!
My race is somali on every form i check it!

Re: Why do somalis think they are African Americans?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 1:54 pm
by Kaafiye
Sikhs are not Muslims, but when I apply for a job and optional questions asked about my race, I check black. However, Sikhs would check Asian. If religion is asked, they would check Sikh and I would check Muslim. My goodness, what are talking about here? In my previous comments, I talked about institutionalized racism and how it affects us just like all blacks, and you're talking about what redneck thinks about the head turbans that Sikhs wear?
Stop with this "institutionalized racism" garbage. There's nothing stopping you from getting up and achieving something with your life in America. There have been loads of success stories of Nigerian and Senegalese immigrants coming to America and achieving their goals.

In fact, Nigerians are the most well-educated group in the USA. So don't come to me with this institutionalized racism bullshit.

And when I mentioned the Punjabi Sikhs, I was implying that the wrongful opinion of a redneck racist White Man is irrelevant and we shouldn't base our identity off of that. If a White guy from South Carolina mistakenly thinks that Somalis are "Black"....then we shouldn't identify ourselves as that. Similarly if the White Racist mistakenly believes that Punjabi Sikhs are Arab Muslims, then they shouldn't identify themselves as such.

Re: Why do somalis think they are African Americans?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 2:14 pm
by gegiroor
I gave up guys. Carry on bashing AAs, and see where that lands you!

Re: Why do somalis think they are African Americans?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 2:18 pm
by SahanGalbeed
I don't believe these guys are somali wallahi gerigoor , yacni 'rationale" koodu waa daciif.
When your entire life is in opposition to something or someone , " I give up" baa la iska yidhahda :lol:

Re: Why do somalis think they are African Americans?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 2:32 pm
by Kaafiye
I gave up guys. Carry on bashing AAs, and see where that lands you!
Don't carry on arguments you can't finish. Nigerians are "Black" yet they're very successful and educated. So don't you dare blame "racism" for the behavior and shortcomings of AA's. It's no one's fault except theirs.

The same way how Somali failures and shortcomings are OUR FAULT and not the fault of the Habashis, Whites, Arabs or anyone else.

Re: Why do somalis think they are African Americans?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 2:38 pm
by Kaafiye
Gegiroor and SahanGalbeed and Advo are extremely condescending towards AA's. They will think of every excuse in the book to normalize their bad behavior.

But you'll never see me do this with Somalis. Our Somali people are deeply flawed, and our civil war and suffering is a direct result of our own bad behavior. We can't really blame anyone except ourselves. I as a proud Somali can admit that and acknowledge it. But as soon as someone says something negative about AA's, people here want to jump and defend this behavior, and make excuses on behalf of them.

You're not doing these people a favor by doing this

Re: Why do somalis think they are African Americans?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 2:47 pm
by Sophisticate
Kaafiye does have a point, when you victimize yourself you don't fight for yourself.

As for Somalis and how they self-identify themselves, its as Somali-American. I don't think Somalis have a problem with African Americans, we just don't see ourselves as the same or having a collective experience, language, culture and ethnicity etc. Better yet the African American has more in common with his European American compatriot. In fact, one could say that the relationship between both groups is soured by the fact that Somalis participated in the enslavement of Bantu people, by selling them to the Arabs. One could claim that global reparations would mean that Somalis that were complicit in this and would have to pay up, along with a heap load of other Africans, Asians and Europeans that also bought, sold and oppressed people of West-Central African decent. No one has their hands clean. Everyone knows if we go further back to Asians and Europeans being slaves, the world as we know it would be bankrupt, God knows they are greedy too and want their dues paid. :? In fact, we should be clear that we need to solve our own problems before we start calling out other ethnicities. :snoop: These topics need to stop.

Re: Why do somalis think they are African Americans?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 2:49 pm
by gegiroor
I don't believe these guys are somali wallahi gerigoor , yacni 'rationale" koodu waa daciif.
When your entire life is in opposition to something or someone , " I give up" baa la iska yidhahda :lol:
Sahan waa ka yaabay. Maalmihii hore isku dhinac baan u ridaynay, laakiin mar qudhuun baan arkay nimankii oo dagaal hubaysan oo aan dhamaad lahayn kula jira nimankaan Maraykan madow. Waar break u qabtaan ku iri oo wax kala reeba, laakiin anigii aby igula soo jeesteen. Meeshaan Maraykan maddow ma joogaan markaa inaaynu aad u rifno madow ma aha, bini-aadamkuna qof xun iyo qof wanaagsan waa la leeyahay.

Teeda kale meeshaan haddii aan maddow aanu halgan usoo marin, maxay Soomaali iyo Nigerian ka qaadi lahaayeen? Haddanla soco anigu Maraykanka maddow khaldkooda intaa waan sheega, laakiin maaha in Somalinet oo ah gateway of Somali forums ee internetka in maalin kasta Marakanka maddow lagu rifo. Markii danbena waa iska daalay markii aan arkay inaanaan nimankaan is marayn.

Thanks for the advice :up:

Re: Why do somalis think they are African Americans?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 3:00 pm
by gegiroor
There is Sophi lady to the rescue. Hurdaa laga soo kiciyey!

:dead:

It is a news to me that Somalis participated the slavery of Bantu. I thought it was Arabs, and at that time the Southern tip-part of Somalia was under the Oman Sultanate!

P.S. Sophisticate, I agree with majority of your comment, but how much can we be obsessed with AAs, sister? Come'n sister, common sense is missing from these endless threads that Somali Ethno-centric patriots are promoting without any breaks. If we declare war on AAs, supposedly young Somali girls who we see doing niiko in cyperspace, and Somali Bantu, what is left? I think we need break from topics as you put it!

Re: Why do somalis think they are African Americans?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 3:05 pm
by Basra-
Geg

do u still like to save a lot of money? :eat:

Re: Why do somalis think they are African Americans?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 3:16 pm
by TheGrumpyGeeljire
SonOfANomad does have a point though, a significant percentage of Somali Youth living in the US are emulating black (African American) culture. Other immigrant groups tend to be proud of their culture but not Somalis.

To be frank, if this doesn't stop, Somali Americans will assimilate into the AA community in a couple of decades.