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Virginity tests for female military recruits in Indonesia.

Postby Machiavelli2 » Thu May 14, 2015 11:52 am

A “two-finger test” by medics to see whether the hymen is intact.

Indonesia has been urged to drop a “discriminatory and invasive” virginity tests for female military recruits, but the military insisted the practice was necessary to check whether the women are “naughty”.

Human Rights Watch on Thursday said the examinations – commonly carried out through a “two-finger test” by medics to see whether the hymen is intact – are a form of gender-based violence and unscientific.

The Indonesian military defended the practice, saying it was part of health check requirements for potential new recruits and it will continue the test.

“We need to examine the mentality of these applicants. If they are no longer virgins, if they are naughty, it means their mentality is not good,” Indonesian military spokesman Fuad Basya told the Guardian.

He said the test has been carried out “for a long time” and that it can determine whether the women have “accidentally” lost their virginity or were sexually active. He said those who failed the test are not eligible to join the military.

“We will continue to carry out the test because to be a military person, the most important thing is your mentality. Physical and intellectual requirements are secondary,” Basya said.

Human Rights Watch (HRW) urged Indonesian President Joko Widodo to immediately abolish the requirement.

“The Indonesian armed forces should recognise that harmful and humiliating ‘virginity tests’ on women recruits does nothing to strengthen national security,” HRW women’s right advocacy director Nisha Varia said.

It is not the first time the issue of virginity tests has drawn anger in Muslim-majority Indonesia, with the police facing criticism last year for subjecting women to the checks.

In a report last year, HRW highlighted that female police recruits were forced to strip naked before they were given the “two-finger test”.

In the latest research conducted between May 2014 and April this year, HRW interviewed 11 women who are military recruits and fiancées of military officers and found a similar practice is widespread in the military force. Basya however denied fiancées of officers were also subjected to the test.

In a “two-finger test”, the examining doctor notes the presence or absence of the hymen and the so-called laxity of the vagina in efforts to assess whether the women are “habituated to sexual intercourse”.

“I felt humiliated. It was very tense, it’s all mixed up,” an unidentified female military applicant who underwent the test in 2013 was quoted as saying in the research.

“What shocked me was finding out that the doctor who was to perform the test was a man.”

A female physician described how the young women were “totally unwilling” to be positioned like women given birth during the tests, saying it was a “torture”.

The research was released ahead of an international conference on military medicine on Indonesia’s resort island of Bali next week. HRW is lobbying support from the conference’s member countries – including the United States, United Kingdom and Australia – to pressure Indonesia to cease the virginity tests.

Parts of Indonesia are still socially conservative and value female virginity highly. In February, an Indonesian district on the main island of Java was forced to scrap a plan for virginity tests for high school girls in order to graduate after it sparked a huge public outcry.

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Re: Virginity tests for female military recruits in Indonesia.

Postby Stuckon21 » Thu May 14, 2015 11:59 am


“We need to examine the mentality of these applicants. If they are no longer virgins, if they are naughty, it means their mentality is not good,” Indonesian military spokesman Fuad Basya told the Guardian.

:deadrose:

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Re: Virginity tests for female military recruits in Indonesia.

Postby Cherine » Thu May 14, 2015 12:10 pm

Lmao@"the two finger test"

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Re: Virginity tests for female military recruits in Indonesia.

Postby Lamagoodle » Thu May 14, 2015 12:51 pm

:( gives a new meaning to the notion of farfarees

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Postby Machiavelli2 » Thu May 14, 2015 1:08 pm

I was in Yogyakarta when this controversy which was initiated by some old traditional men and the student unions threatened to burn down government buildings.

"In February, an Indonesian district on the main island of Java was forced to scrap a plan for virginity tests for high school girls in order to graduate after it sparked a huge public outcry".

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Re: Virginity tests for female military recruits in Indonesia.

Postby anzeloti » Thu May 14, 2015 1:12 pm


“We need to examine the mentality of these applicants. If they are no longer virgins, if they are naughty, it means their mentality is not good,” Indonesian military spokesman Fuad Basya told the Guardian.

:deadrose:

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Re: Virginity tests for female military recruits in Indonesia.

Postby LovelyFlower » Thu May 14, 2015 1:48 pm

That is seriously crazy.

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Re: Virginity tests for female military recruits in Indonesia.

Postby Basra- » Thu May 14, 2015 2:58 pm

If u insert two fingers, they are virgin NO MORE ma ha? 8-)

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Re: Virginity tests for female military recruits in Indonesia.

Postby Amira143 » Thu May 14, 2015 2:59 pm

^ :dead: That's what I was thinking... :? What a weird and perveted custom

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Re: Virginity tests for female military recruits in Indonesia.

Postby Lamagoodle » Thu May 14, 2015 3:02 pm

If u insert two fingers, they are virgin NO MORE ma ha? 8-)

Depends, technically it could be the case. But "virginity" is in the eyes of the beholder.

It seems that the ppl who want this test do not understand the science of virginity as you and I probably do :lol:

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Re: Virginity tests for female military recruits in Indonesia.

Postby Machiavelli2 » Thu May 14, 2015 3:23 pm

If u insert two fingers, they are virgin NO MORE ma ha? 8-)
Dee haa, waa hymen tissue oo weliba god leh si aay caadada dumarka u soo madho, ee ma aha derbigii Berlin ama kan China.

Lamagoodle,

Ina Adeer, ma sax baa, waxaan maqley dhaqanka reer miyiga (maybe for some communities), waxaa uu reerka wiilka guursan raba u dirri jireen the grandmother to conduct virginity tests on the potential wife of her grandson. Haddii ay run tahay, do you know what procedures she used?

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Re: Virginity tests for female military recruits in Indonesia.

Postby Lamagoodle » Thu May 14, 2015 3:32 pm

If u insert two fingers, they are virgin NO MORE ma ha? 8-)
Dee haa, waa hymen tissue oo weliba god leh si aay caadada dumarka u soo madho, ee ma aha derbigii Berlin ama kan China.

Lamagoodle,

Ina Adeer, ma sax baa, waxaan maqley dhaqanka reer miyiga (maybe for some communities), waxaa uu reerka wiilka guursan raba u dirri jireen the grandmother to conduct virginity tests on the potential wife of her grandson. Haddii ay run tahay, do you know what procedures she used?
Bro, waay dhici kartaa. Maadaama aay gabdhaha badankooda qod ban yihiin ma adko in la sameeyo baaritaan.

Laakin waxaa jira dhaqan hadda aan sidaasi loo isticmaalin; gabadha markii la aqal geeyo, waxaa badanaaba loo goglaa maro cad; subaxii xiga islaanta sodohda ayaa aqalka timaado, oo waxaay la boodaa marada cad; haddii aay ku aragto dhiig, waay masharaxdaa (alaleeys/carab dhow). Waxaay u masharaxdaa inuu wiilkeeda ka soo baxay hawshii loo direy :lol: .

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Re: Virginity tests for female military recruits in Indonesia.

Postby Amira143 » Thu May 14, 2015 3:37 pm

:snoop:

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Re: Virginity tests for female military recruits in Indonesia.

Postby Lamagoodle » Thu May 14, 2015 3:37 pm

BTW, in Sweden, there are at least two hospitals that perform hymenoplasty( hymen reconstruction/repair). Most of the clients are from the middle east and East Africa.

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Re: Virginity tests for female military recruits in Indonesia.

Postby Idman702 » Thu May 14, 2015 3:39 pm

You know what they say about Indhoyar men? I am sure those girls will pass the test with flying colors, even if she's not a virgin. Image


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