cabdi good :af maay and somali are seperate languages

[LobsterUnit]

he says af maay is not one the same as Somali language.in another video,he refutes the claim that af maay is a dialect and goes on to claim that Somalis speak a 101 languages including mushunguli,af maay,af soomaali,etc.i am not an expert,but af maay and af soomaali seem like different languages to me.you would basically have to learn a new language to understand af maay as a Somali speaker.i would love to know where he got the 101 languages from.seems slightly exaggerated.

[Thuganomics]

If you can't understand what somebody is saying to you in their language.Then obviously its a different language to the one you speak and would understand.That's just common sense

[WaaliCas]

Af-Maay is a hybrid of Somali and Afaan-Borana of the larger Oromiffa. The Gare (Rahawein sub-group) and the Borana can have full communication without any issue. The Borana call them Gabra (Gare)----Saglan Borana, Sagaltama Garba (Sagal wa Borana, sagashana wa Gare). The Oromo sub-groups are divided into numeric groups for example four, six, nine, ninety and the Rahawein are the same.

They were assimilated into the Somali society after the Somali jihad wars against Waaq practicing Oromo (Gaallo) even though the Somalis themselves were Waaqists just few centuries before them. In short, D&M are hybrid groups of many groups but they are closer to Borana than lamagodle Somali Maxa Tidhi/tiri.

The Oromo themselves are close relatives of the Somalis. All that separated them was religion. The Somali language that you know as Somali isn't the original Somali put heavily polluted language by Arabic and other foreign tongues (English, Italian, Indian,).

The Borana represent the closest thing to the original Somalis and the Maay people are the closest group to the Borana. I personally have great deal of respect for the Borana, D&M and the larger Oromo even though I reject Oromia as a republic (many Oromo hold strong resentment and represal against Somalis are inevitable should they achieve an independent state. That's the only reason I oppose them).

[jalaaludin5]

Abdi good is just splitting hairs.
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Af may is af soomaali. Different dialect.

[libaaxyare]

Af-Maay is a hybrid of Somali and Afaan-Borana of the larger Oromiffa. The Gare (Rahawein sub-group) and the Borana can have full communication without any issue. The Borana call them Gabra (Gare)----Saglan Borana, Sagaltama Garba (Sagal wa Borana, sagashana wa Gare). The Oromo sub-groups are divided into numeric groups for example four, six, nine, ninety and the Rahawein are the same.

They were assimilated into the Somali society after the Somali jihad wars against Waaq practicing Oromo (Gaallo) even though the Somalis themselves were Waaqists just few centuries before them. In short, D&M are hybrid groups of many groups but they are closer to Borana than lamagodle Somali Maxa Tidhi/tiri.

The Oromo themselves are close relatives of the Somalis. All that separated them was religion. The Somali language that you know as Somali isn't the original Somali put heavily polluted language by Arabic and other foreign tongues (English, Italian, Indian,).

The Borana represent the closest thing to the original Somalis and the Maay people are the closest group to the Borana.

HabashHowdian, you think there are kids and brainless Habasha etheipiand in here? take your bullshit to Ethiopian forums.

Don't come here and tell us Maay and Garre, we are not like the Habasha you sell to your bullshit Sland propaganda.

Gharre don't speak Maay Maay and are not Rahanwayne and Rahanwayne people don't understand Garre language, May and Garre language are totally different.

any Somali with good ears can understand Rahanwayne an example, Ninkii Fahmaya ayun baa Fahma " Rahanwayne would say " Lang kii wal fahamaaw lee fahame" its Somali and anyone with good ears can understand.

let me give you another facts People in Mogadishu call Somali Bantu Jareer people Habash a aka Jareer and Mingistu is one Habash Jareer .

[sahal80]

war this ex goalkeeper doesnt know shyt except what he hears in his marfash

look how he says moshunguli is part of af somaki kkkk

it is not even sawahili, its from tanzania the language of the former slaves

its speakers r very small, about 20,000 people

may is the original af somali not the opposite

may varies geographically a lot, for example every one can understood the digil dialect except dabarre who r found in jubooyinka iyo bakool

garre of lower shabelle r not the same as the garre of ethiopia and kenya, the koonfur garre speak a digil may dialect

then you got mirifle who has a different grammar than somali abit you can figure it out or learn it in one lesson

only dabarre and garre of kenya speak some distant dialect

I think he has some agenda of discrediting the homogeneity of somali people so he should be stopped involving in koonfur!

epic fail!

[Itrah]

As a German speaking Somali, I understand Dutch better than I understand Af Maay.

If these two are separate languages, so are Af-Maay and Somali.

[zumaale]

As a German speaking Somali, I understand Dutch better than I understand Af Maay.

If these two are separate languages, so are Af-Maay and Somali.

Herr Itrah, how are things?

I was always opposed to the idea that the Teutons speaks one language. How close are the Saxon and Austro-Bavarian dialects in their unrefined state? Are Frisian, Dutch and Saxon closer to each other than Austro-Bavarian?

[Itrah]

Herr Itrah, how are things?

I was always opposed to the idea that the Teutons speaks one language. How close are the Saxon and Austro-Bavarian dialects in their unrefined state? Are Frisian, Dutch and Saxon closer to each other than Austro-Bavarian?

Everything is great.

Frisian is quite divergent and I don't understand much of it. But Saxon, Dutch, and High German are very similar and mutually intelligible, especially if the speaker doesn't talk too fast. Definitely more so than unschooled Af-Maay individuals & standard Somali (educated Maay speakers use too many standard Somali words).

[sahal80]

the language hassan dahir sings is called dabarre thats hard bc hes from diinsooor a dabarre town

here is digil a mix of banadiri and maay-lower shabelle-

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... 3CCUKtIdFA

mirifle the majority of maay; just different grammar they also have more vocabulary so if you learn its system you can use your own words and they will inderstood you

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... B2W_-xd7UA

[LobsterUnit]

Walicaas.

oromos and Somalis separated at least 3-5 thousand years ago.both groups had very little contact until the 15-18th centuries when the Oromo launched their great incursions into nfd and parts of southern Somalia.the oromos were driven from some areas of the south and the nfd by the Somali clans who were also expandig further south. In other areas,wars of attrition occurred and cross clan assimilation happened.

af maay is not a hybrid of Oromo and Somali nor are the rahanweyn ancient oromos who were somalised.this is complete and utter nonsense. Oromos are not any closer to Somalis than afar or rendille.af maay is a Cushitic dialect like Somali.it is not a hybrid of Somali and Oromo.i don't know where you get this rubbish from.here is an academic paper on the origin of galla and Somali:
http://www.academia.edu/248346/The_Orig ... and_Somali

sahal.thanks for info.

[Itrah]

Walicaas.

oromos and Somalis separated at least 3-5 thousand years ago.both groups had very little contact until the 15-18th centuries when the Oromo launched their great incursions into nfd and parts of southern Somalia.the oromos were driven from some areas of the south and the nfd by the Somali clans who were also expandig further south. In other areas,wars of attrition occurred and cross clan assimilation happened.

af maay is not a hybrid of Oromo and Somali nor are the rahanweyn ancient oromos who were somalised.this is complete and utter nonsense. Oromos are not any closer to Somalis than afar or rendille.af maay is a Cushitic dialect like Somali.it is not a hybrid of Somali and Oromo.i don't know where you get this rubbish from.here is an academic paper on the origin of galla and Somali:
http://www.academia.edu/248346/The_Orig ... and_Somali

sahal.thanks for info.

His argument could be flipped and claimed that standard Somali is a mixture between Maay and Afar. Both are equally ridiculous.

[jalaaludin5]

the language hassan dahir sings is called dabarre thats hard bc hes from diinsooor a dabarre town

here is digil a mix of banadiri and maay-lower shabelle-

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... 3CCUKtIdFA

mirifle the majority of maay; just different grammar they also have more vocabulary so if you learn its system you can use your own words and they will inderstood you

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... B2W_-xd7UA

sweet music to my ears.

The first link doesn't seem as strange as the second. Those kids sound like something totally alien to af Somali.
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Hearing the maay dialect sound like all it needs is a good beat.

[sahal80]

the language hassan dahir sings is called dabarre thats hard bc hes from diinsooor a dabarre town

here is digil a mix of banadiri and maay-lower shabelle-

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... 3CCUKtIdFA

mirifle the majority of maay; just different grammar they also have more vocabulary so if you learn its system you can use your own words and they will inderstood you

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... B2W_-xd7UA

sweet music to my ears.

The first link doesn't seem as strange as the second. Those kids sound like something totally alien to af Somali.
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Hearing the maay dialect sound like all it needs is a good beat.

its bc you cant hear it as she sings

she says waana la heestaa miriflena baaqii ma maqlin the grammar is different abit

here is the standard maay- mirifle- pls dont tell me you dont undeerstand generally as reer waqooyi
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... z_J6EfS2Yw

all the nations of the world is same like the kurds

arabs cant understand the algerians

so you cant say its not somali

as a people they use to be pure somslis but their region has fallen under the arab domination who brought in a lot of slaves for farmin but mirifle and the culture is still somali if not the original one

[jalaaludin5]

the language hassan dahir sings is called dabarre thats hard bc hes from diinsooor a dabarre town

here is digil a mix of banadiri and maay-lower shabelle-

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... 3CCUKtIdFA

mirifle the majority of maay; just different grammar they also have more vocabulary so if you learn its system you can use your own words and they will inderstood you

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... B2W_-xd7UA

sweet music to my ears.

The first link doesn't seem as strange as the second. Those kids sound like something totally alien to af Somali.
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Hearing the maay dialect sound like all it needs is a good beat.

its bc you cant hear it as she sings

she says waana la heestaa miriflena baaqii ma maqlin the grammar is different abit

here is the standard maay- mirifle- pls dont tell me you dont undeerstand generally as reer waqooyi
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... z_J6EfS2Yw

all the nations of the world is same like the kurds

arabs cant understand the algerians

so you cant say its not somali

as a people they use to be pure somslis but their region has fallen under the arab domination who brought in a lot of slaves for farmin but mirifle and the culture is still somali if not the original one

Now this clip above is ok. I can understand most of what his saying and all it needs is just for the ear to get use to it.
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The reason Arabs cannot understand algerian is because they totally different. I think comparing Arabic and Algerian lingo to Somali and maay is wrong. Af maay and Somali are more or less similar than Algerian and Arabic.

I do not concider Algerians as Arabs let alone their language.