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At the rate which Western culture's trajectory is going then this will be the next frontier

Postby FieldMarshalMenace » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:31 pm

Brothers marrying sisters

and then this

http://www.marieclaire.com/culture/a640 ... _187723271

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Re: At the rate which Western culture's trajectory is going then this will be the next frontier

Postby Alpharabius » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:39 pm

Shit is effed up , Homosexuality has no effects on society in general when it comes to health , (excluding the quick spread of HIV) but incestual relationships that produce offspring will have an effect on the Human gene pool and the coming generations , this must not be allowed , if in some crazy world this becomes legal then they must be chemically castrated. Insha'allah i wont be around to witness such madness.

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Re: At the rate which Western culture's trajectory is going then this will be the next frontier

Postby Kaafiye » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:47 pm

Shit is effed up , Homosexuality has no effects on society in general when it comes to health , (excluding the quick spread of HIV) but incestual relationships that produce offspring will have an effect on the Human gene pool and the coming generations , this must not be allowed , if in some crazy world this becomes legal then they must be chemically castrated. Insha'allah i wont be around to witness such madness.
Homosexuality has many negative effects on a society, including the spread of diseases and the breakup of families.

Khaniisnimo should not be tolerated

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Re: At the rate which Western culture's trajectory is going then this will be the next frontier

Postby Alpharabius » Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:03 pm

Shit is effed up , Homosexuality has no effects on society in general when it comes to health , (excluding the quick spread of HIV) but incestual relationships that produce offspring will have an effect on the Human gene pool and the coming generations , this must not be allowed , if in some crazy world this becomes legal then they must be chemically castrated. Insha'allah i wont be around to witness such madness.
Homosexuality has many negative effects on a society, including the spread of diseases and the breakup of families.

Khaniisnimo should not be tolerated

Of course Homosexuality has many negative effects but the same could be said about polygamy when it comes breaking up families , it spreads disease but so does a lot of other things ,Khaniisnimo does not damage the future generations , it's only a problem to the persons doing it NOW whereas the consequences of incest will be their for centuries to come , If one of your ancestors was a homosexual (which is highly probable) it wont affect you in anyway , but if you have ancestors that engage in incest that produces offspring and you are a result of that , then its highly likely you will have some genetic disorders.

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Re: At the rate which Western culture's trajectory is going then this will be the next frontier

Postby Kaafiye » Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:28 pm

Shit is effed up , Homosexuality has no effects on society in general when it comes to health , (excluding the quick spread of HIV) but incestual relationships that produce offspring will have an effect on the Human gene pool and the coming generations , this must not be allowed , if in some crazy world this becomes legal then they must be chemically castrated. Insha'allah i wont be around to witness such madness.
Homosexuality has many negative effects on a society, including the spread of diseases and the breakup of families.

Khaniisnimo should not be tolerated

Of course Homosexuality has many negative effects but the same could be said about polygamy when it comes breaking up families , it spreads disease but so does a lot of other things ,Khaniisnimo does not damage the future generations , it's only a problem to the persons doing it NOW whereas the consequences of incest will be their for centuries to come , If one of your ancestors was a homosexual (which is highly probable) it wont affect you in anyway , but if you have ancestors that engage in incest that produces offspring and you are a result of that , then its highly likely you will have some genetic disorders.
Are you seriously trying to compare homosexuality to polygamy? And are you seriously trying to argue that khaniisnimo doesn't damage a society and corrupt it from within?

I'm done here.

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Postby SaciidAyanleh » Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:41 pm

Homosexuality has many negative effects on a society, including the spread of diseases and the breakup of families.
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Extensive data available from more than 30 years of research reveal that children raised by gay and lesbian parents have demonstrated resilience with regard to social, psychological, and sexual health despite economic and legal disparities and social stigma. Many studies have demonstrated that children's well-being is affected much more by their relationships with their parents, their parents' sense of competence and security, and the presence of social and economic support for the family than by the gender or the sexual orientation of their parents. Lack of opportunity for same-gender couples to marry adds to families’ stress, which affects the health and welfare of all household members. Because marriage strengthens families and, in so doing, benefits children’s development, children should not be deprived of the opportunity for their parents to be married. Paths to parenthood that include assisted reproductive techniques, adoption, and foster parenting should focus on competency of the parents rather than their sexual orientation.
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/c ... .2013-0377

Are you seriously trying to compare homosexuality to polygamy? And are you seriously trying to argue that khaniisnimo doesn't damage a society and corrupt it from within?

I'm done here.
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Conventional wisdom holds that the polygynous family system is as sexually and emotionally satisfying as a monogamous one. Ethnographic accounts of 69 polygynous systems, however, provide compelling evidence that the majority of co-wives in a polygynous family prefer pragmatic co-operation with one another while maintaining a respectful distance. Moreover, there often is a deep-seated feeling of angst that arises over competing for access to their mutual husband. Co-wife conflict in the early years of marriage is pervasive, and often marked by outbursts of verbal or physical violence. Co-wife conflict may be mitigated by social institutions, such as sororal polygyny and some form of "social security" or helath care. Material wealth may be divided more or less equally, but as a husband's sexual attention (a primary source for increased fertility) and affection cannot always be equitably distributed, there is ongoing and contentious rivalry among co-wives.

http://www.jstor.org/stable/3773961?seq ... b_contents

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Re: At the rate which Western culture's trajectory is going then this will be the next frontier

Postby Alpharabius » Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:44 pm

Are you seriously trying to compare homosexuality to polygamy? And are you seriously trying to argue that khaniisnimo doesn't damage a society and corrupt it from within?

I'm done here.
I compared Homosexuality to polygamy in the context of familial relations not in a general way. Khaniisnimo only damages a khaniis , it will not damage me or my future offspring (unless they are khaniis). Where as if my offspring happen to marry a person who is a product of incest that will damage the genetics of my line permanently , ma fahantay ?. One is detrimental to an individual who chooses to engage in such risky behaviour , one will be detrimental to a whole generation of innocent people to come.

Just to make things clear I'm not supporting homosexuals , i think it's unnatural but incest is a 100x worse.

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Re: At the rate which Western culture's trajectory is going then this will be the next frontier

Postby Bandit » Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:14 pm

Are you seriously trying to compare homosexuality to polygamy? And are you seriously trying to argue that khaniisnimo doesn't damage a society and corrupt it from within?

I'm done here.
I compared Homosexuality to polygamy in the context of familial relations not in a general way. Khaniisnimo only damages a khaniis , it will not damage me or my future offspring (unless they are khaniis). Where as if my offspring happen to marry a person who is a product of incest that will damage the genetics of my line permanently , ma fahantay ?. One is detrimental to an individual who chooses to engage in such risky behaviour , one will be detrimental to a whole generation of innocent people to come.

Just to make things clear I'm not supporting homosexuals , i think it's unnatural but incest is a 100x worse.
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khaniis spreads hiv and aids in the community do you know how many down low fakkits exist who do you : think the fakkits fuck when their pretending to be straight? Wether you like it or not fakkits will directly effect you if they keep growing in numbers keep pretending is all sun shine.:geek:

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Re: At the rate which Western culture's trajectory is going then this will be the next frontier

Postby Bandit » Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:24 pm

Shit is effed up , Homosexuality has no effects on society in general when it comes to health , (excluding the quick spread of HIV) but incestual relationships that produce offspring will have an effect on the Human gene pool and the coming generations , this must not be allowed , if in some crazy world this becomes legal then they must be chemically castrated. Insha'allah i wont be around to witness such madness.
Gene pool Idea is flawed the first humans mated with their siblings and their offspring came out fine considering were here today :Shrug:

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Re: At the rate which Western culture's trajectory is going then this will be the next frontier

Postby Kaafiye » Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:31 pm

Are you seriously trying to compare homosexuality to polygamy? And are you seriously trying to argue that khaniisnimo doesn't damage a society and corrupt it from within?

I'm done here.
I compared Homosexuality to polygamy in the context of familial relations not in a general way. Khaniisnimo only damages a khaniis , it will not damage me or my future offspring (unless they are khaniis). Where as if my offspring happen to marry a person who is a product of incest that will damage the genetics of my line permanently , ma fahantay ?. One is detrimental to an individual who chooses to engage in such risky behaviour , one will be detrimental to a whole generation of innocent people to come.

Just to make things clear I'm not supporting homosexuals , i think it's unnatural but incest is a 100x worse.
That's irrelevant because no one in their right mind would support polygamy, whereas you are defending homosexuality.

And second of all, maybe you should read the HIV statistics in America, where a majority of homosexual Black men contract the HIV virus before they turn 35.

It is a fact that a disproportionate amount of HIV carries are homosexuals. Accept it and move on

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Postby Kaafiye » Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:38 pm

Homosexuality has many negative effects on a society, including the spread of diseases and the breakup of families.
:lupe:
Extensive data available from more than 30 years of research reveal that children raised by gay and lesbian parents have demonstrated resilience with regard to social, psychological, and sexual health despite economic and legal disparities and social stigma. Many studies have demonstrated that children's well-being is affected much more by their relationships with their parents, their parents' sense of competence and security, and the presence of social and economic support for the family than by the gender or the sexual orientation of their parents. Lack of opportunity for same-gender couples to marry adds to families’ stress, which affects the health and welfare of all household members. Because marriage strengthens families and, in so doing, benefits children’s development, children should not be deprived of the opportunity for their parents to be married. Paths to parenthood that include assisted reproductive techniques, adoption, and foster parenting should focus on competency of the parents rather than their sexual orientation.
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/c ... .2013-0377

Are you seriously trying to compare homosexuality to polygamy? And are you seriously trying to argue that khaniisnimo doesn't damage a society and corrupt it from within?

I'm done here.
:lupe:
Conventional wisdom holds that the polygynous family system is as sexually and emotionally satisfying as a monogamous one. Ethnographic accounts of 69 polygynous systems, however, provide compelling evidence that the majority of co-wives in a polygynous family prefer pragmatic co-operation with one another while maintaining a respectful distance. Moreover, there often is a deep-seated feeling of angst that arises over competing for access to their mutual husband. Co-wife conflict in the early years of marriage is pervasive, and often marked by outbursts of verbal or physical violence. Co-wife conflict may be mitigated by social institutions, such as sororal polygyny and some form of "social security" or helath care. Material wealth may be divided more or less equally, but as a husband's sexual attention (a primary source for increased fertility) and affection cannot always be equitably distributed, there is ongoing and contentious rivalry among co-wives.

http://www.jstor.org/stable/3773961?seq ... b_contents
Look at the previous responses. I've made entire threads talking about the negative effects of homosexuality (before the Mods censored me and took it down)....and now you have nerve to defend this lifestyle.

You spoke in another thread about upholding Islamic values, and now you're disparaging polygamy and upholding homosexuality...which is a direct contradiction of the Islamic texts.

Don't bother responding to me. I'm not gonna read it. Just try and defend homosexuality in front of a crowd of Somali Muslims and see their reaction.

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Re: At the rate which Western culture's trajectory is going then this will be the next frontier

Postby Alpharabius » Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:44 pm

whereas you are defending homosexuality.
When did i defend homosexuality ? so if i say "drinking urine is healthier than eating feaces" i automatically support the drinking of urine ? la kaalay logic sxb waaxasi caqli maaha.

I only compared the evils that may come of practicising incest/hmsxtly and the evils of incest far outweigh the one of hmsxtly. I only mentioned hmsxtly because in the recent years it has been normalized and legalised in many countries in the world ,the same arguments that won for hmsxtly can't win it for incest.

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Postby Kaafiye » Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:53 pm

whereas you are defending homosexuality.
When did i defend homosexuality ? so if i say "drinking urine is healthier than eating feaces" i automatically support the drinking of urine ? la kaalay logic sxb waaxasi caqli maaha.

I only compared the evils that may come of practicising incest/hmsxtly and the evils of incest far outweigh the one of hmsxtly. I only mentioned hmsxtly because in the recent years it has been normalized and legalised in many countries in the world ,the same arguments that won for hmsxtly can't win it for incest.
Those arguments certainly CAN win for incest, simply because the majority of women aren't capable of bearing children. Either they are too old, or they're ill, or they are sterile. And not to mention the millions of women already on birth control.

So tell me what arguments you can make that would stop incest from occurring, especially when you take childbirth out of the equation?

If a 55 year old man wants to have sex with his twin sister, would you support this??

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Postby Alpharabius » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:03 pm

whereas you are defending homosexuality.
When did i defend homosexuality ? so if i say "drinking urine is healthier than eating feaces" i automatically support the drinking of urine ? la kaalay logic sxb waaxasi caqli maaha.

I only compared the evils that may come of practicising incest/hmsxtly and the evils of incest far outweigh the one of hmsxtly. I only mentioned hmsxtly because in the recent years it has been normalized and legalised in many countries in the world ,the same arguments that won for hmsxtly can't win it for incest.
Those arguments certainly CAN win for incest, simply because the majority of women aren't capable of bearing children. Either they are too old, or they're ill, or they are sterile. And not to mention the millions of women already on birth control.

So tell me what arguments you can make that would stop incest from occurring, especially when you take childbirth out of the equation?

If a 55 year old man wants to have sex with his twin sister, would you support this??

As i said in my first post if it came down to legalizing incest(which i think wont be happening anytime soon) then both people should not be allowed to have children , and no i don't support it .

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Postby SaciidAyanleh » Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:20 pm


Don't bother responding to me. I'm not gonna read it. Just try and defend homosexuality in front of a crowd of Somali Muslims and see their reaction.
I will, and I will do it smilingly, knowing their children most likely agree with my position. Just ask Hyper about his lil sis the social justice warrior oo dalka carabta joogtaa


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