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Correction: No pirates, but job creators.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:21 pm
by Otali
The true reasons for the Rise of Piracy in Somalia

There are many reasons why so called “piracy”, more like patriotic COAST GUARDING in certain contexts of course, arose in Somalia waters. Just today a Canadian cruise ship barely escaped a “search and seizure” mission by the fearless voluntary coast guards off Somali waters. Such spirit, such heart!

As well it should be mentioned that recent bold actions of the other well known patriotic voluntary naval forces of Xaradhere, as well as similar attempts by less altruistic persons along so called Eyl and Kismayo coasts, have made me think about what can only be called: job creation by another name. The socio-economic reasons behind the rise of piracy. There are many men who have, for diverse sources possess solid navigational and other seafaring skills who nonetheless have needless become unemployed, hungry, bitter and indeed lacking any sustenance, they have developed creative schemes of surviving. Imagine for a minute, you are a resident of say some coastal town in Somalia, Xardhere everyday you see huge foreign tankers, vessels, and every imaginable industrial carrier polluting your waters, harrying your small fishing boat as they laugh at you in their foreign languages and adding insult to injury, they steal your fish and other resources of the seas. You see dead fish and strange colour in the waters that make you experience respiratory problems you never had. Days go by and you find out other men, other communities are also suffering and one man stands up one night, a young strong individual, and says “listen adeeryal this need not be the case”. Small youths begin to listen. The entrepreneur spirit mixes with vengeance and an all out WAR is declared against the marauding foreign trespassers. Not wasting time, small mobile speedboats are bought; heavy guns are mounted on top of them, not hard to imagine when the right kind of forces coordinate their actions together and in a few weeks: no more unemployment, no more feeling social or personally powerless. Now you can question this trespassers and their kenyatti henchmen face to face, and what to do they have to say for themselves, we are transporting food!

Well you reply to this fleshly Ukrainian or Chinese marauder, isn’t that strange, you certainly never bothered to offload your cargo but exploited our technological limitations to plough through our seas, now you and your boss is going to have to pay!

This is not to say that economic and other greedy motivations will not come to play in the further growth of piracy, but we can all rest a sure that JOB CREATION by any other name has been implemented. I am even told that the unemployment rate in Xardhere has been slashed by 30% and daily income grows per households. A noble enterprise: securing our nation’s waters and some here like to call them Pirates.

Amazing!
Otali

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:37 pm
by QansaGabeyle
" similar attempts by less altruistic persons along so called Eyl and Kismayo coasts"

What makes the pirates in Kismaayo less altruistic than those in xarardheere? There is nothing altruistic about the actions of these pirates although I have nothing against them so long as they rob foriegners and not somali owned vessels.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:03 pm
by Otali
Qansa:

what is not altruistic action in a developing country ravaged by the health and environment consequences of illegal fishing and dumping?

By putting fear into foreign vessels that have dumped incalculable amounts of hazardous waste in somalia....

If you know that by putting fear in these multi-national coporations and dumpers, as well as their so called somali collabrators make them fear having to pay a peony financial ransom to stop them for doing that Major demages in illicit dumping, even if you disuade 1%, is that not a altruistic action?


P.S. Those who were holding those ships in Kismayo were directly challenging the Order that exists in JVA. It was motivated by sheer politics to undermine the UN to come back.

Otali

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:37 pm
by michael_ital
Just heard tonight that a passenger liner was hijakked off the coast of Somalia with 22 Canadians on board. Laughing Laughing

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:48 am
by Globetrotter-
Otali,

An interesting piece. Every single act committed by thugs, pirates and moryans could be deduced to poverty.

When did these pirates learn to swim???? Most of them don't even eat fish and have never seen sea water!


Qanisgabeyle, are you saying that it is OK to rob foreigners??? The same people who saved your ass from moyans in somalia and gave you and your people the right to stay in America??????????????????

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:00 am
by gurey25
Im an anarchist at heart and i cannot contain my support for our
PIRATES.

How dare they call them Pirates in thier own Waters,
When you plunder our resourses.

It is estimates that Somalias rich Fishing grounds bring in $300 million a year, more than what were our livestock exports.
This money goes to Illegal trawlers mostly chinese.

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:59 am
by Daanyeer
Sad SUGGESTION but i SUSPECT that someone is hereby playing a CARD. I am AFRAID that there will be a BOOMERANG SCENARIO.




Ur Brother With Intellectual Glasses In S'nat !!!!!!!!!

YYY Col\Prof Daanyeer YYY

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:18 pm
by Ina Baxar
Otali your lil excuse could fly here for a minute , if these guys weren't attempting to highjack passengers cruise ships 160 kms off the coastline Shocked Laughing
I heard the captain of that cruise ship , displayed on their loud speakers an audio of a gunfight , the mooryans tought they were fired back at , and gave up the chase and left. Laughing

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:59 pm
by *Anisa
Well according to the UN Law of the Sea:

Coastal States have sovereign rights in a 200-nautical mile exclusive economic zone (EEZ) with respect to natural resources and certain economic activities, and exercise jurisdiction over marine science research and environmental protection;

Those foreign ships deserve to be hijacked. If I were one of those pirates, i'd keep the ship and buy those foreigners tickets back to where ever the hell they came from. A ship is worth more then plane tickets anyway Embarassed

As for attacking the cruiseliner, according to the Law Of Sea that was ILLEGAL. They should'nt have attacked that ship.

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:24 pm
by LionHeart-112
^^it was very nice of you to take UN Laws into consideration when determining whethr a ship/cruiseliner should be attacked or not but what about Islamic law?

YOU SAID:

"those foreign ships deserve to be hijacked. If I were one of those pirates, i'd keep the ship and buy those foreigners tickets back to where ever the hell they came from"

Are you siding with the pirates because they are majerteen or because the ships are white-owned??? Is it Halaal to keep that property?

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:37 pm
by *Anisa
^^ This isn't a qabiil issue and I'm not really sure why you think of it that way. Pirates come from other qabiils aswell. *sigh* Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Most ship vessels are not "white owned" as you put it. They come from places like China and Yemen, for the sole purpose of stealing our marine resources.

The only "white owned" ship was the cruiseliner, and i've already stated that the pirates shouldn't have attacked them. (They were just passing by, and did nothing wrong)

Is it halaal, nope. Neither is asking for a ransom.

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:39 pm
by LionHeart-112
^^if u were trying to make a point in that message, it went over my head. So what if all the ships aren't white owned? They are non-somali. That's the somali mentality...regardless of whom it belongs to, pirating is not ok. Those pirates need to rounded up and killed.

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:46 pm
by *Anisa
^ Okay. After all everyone IS entitled to their own opinions.

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:56 pm
by LionHeart-112
[quote="*Anisa"]^ Okay. After all everyone IS entitled to their own opinions.[/quote]

So doing the right thing doesn't matter?

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:00 pm
by Samatr
lion

Foreigners are shitting on our waters and stealing our fish, the pirates should control the seas by whatever means.

I would rather have Somali pirates in our see than foreigners shitting our waters or stealing the fish.