The Term Qaldaan

[SahanGalbeed]

God willing it will take all the Qaldans {wrongins} to straighten Zoomalia .Many countries in this world have had to make difficult choices , and the reason today the English or the French or the Italian kid can be proud of his country is because of the sacrifices made by his ancestors .
Concerning Zoomalia , as a Qaldan , we have no choice but to eat our *** for the common good .
We will be a country again and we will be a proud people again , not just shooting hot air like I do everyday here , insha Allah


We gotta change the momentum , from fight "tribe A or B" to fight FOR a country .
not easy , but if I were to only take the easy route God would have made me daarood

[Rambie]

Why is it spelled with a Q?

Wrong should be khalad. So, I presume khaldaan should be the correct spelling.

You see?

[Rambie]

My friends , I hate to tell you this , but the superiority of the Northerner over the southerner is almost a universal thing .
When I look at the history of our "richer" brothers of the human race , the Europeans , one cannot ignore that fact .
Quick example , Great Britain , one of the greatest country on Earth , wonderful , civilized , learned ,cultured people why are they called English and not Saxons ? who's more northern is MY answer
Why do the Danes kept messing with the English ? Because they live North of the Angles
What made the Vikings think they could impose their ways to their more southern European neighbours ? Because of North again .
What saved the zomalis is the fact they have a peace loving northern clan .
Long live all the Northern people of any country no matter where they live:

[Rambie]

This is what I read in the other thread.

I always laugh at the irony of reer waqooyi being considered 'qaldaans' when everything spoken south of Mudug is not standard Somali.

As a reer waqooyi I can give a formal speech in the same dialect I speak at home, but people from the south who consider me qaldaan have to sound more northern when giving a speech or writing a book.

I totally disagree with you to say anything spoken south of Mudug is not Standard Somali? Who decides what is standard Somali? Afka Soomaaligu wali ma xasilin mana la isku raacin kan la qoraa! Tusaale ahaan inkastoo af carabiga lahjado badan leeyahay hadana sida erayada loo qoraa waa la isku raacay halka af Soomaaliga qolo waliba tuuladeeda kii ey uga hadleysay ey soo qoreyso. While in spoken Somali we can say xirri/xidhiidh wali la iskuma raacin midki aan qori lahayn.

Personally I have seen galbeed, waqooyi iyo bartamaha each claim that they r the ones who speak Stand Somali, there is one more theory which says the so "called" standard Somali formed after independence when people from every region came together in xamar.

The term qaldaan has nothing to do with the Somali spoken in the north rather the way ppl who were from there behaved Marki ey xamar yimaadeen, the xamaraawis were bit maskiin and slow while reer waqooyi where straight talking, loud and tough.

Isku soo duuboo lahjadaha kala duwan waxaa ey muujinayaan qaninimada afka, it is only ignorance and inferiority that some of us claim their regional accent is better than the one(s).

[Basra-]

My friends , I hate to tell you this , but the superiority of the Northerner over the southerner is almost a universal thing .
When I look at the history of our "richer" brothers of the human race , the Europeans , one cannot ignore that fact .
Quick example , Great Britain , one of the greatest country on Earth , wonderful , civilized , learned ,cultured people why are they called English and not Saxons ? who's more northern is MY answer
Why do the Danes kept messing with the English ? Because they live North of the Angles
What made the Vikings think they could impose their ways to their more southern European neighbours ? Because of North again .
What saved the zomalis is the fact they have a peace loving northern clan .
Long live all the Northern people of any country no matter where they live:

Sahan

I agree with your point. Northern people tend to be more gentler and more civilized than southern people. By the way-- English is the shorten derivative name for Anglo-Saxon. Same thing, English is cleaner and civilized than the harsh sounding Anglo Saxon. Is Somaliland more civilized than the south? No doubt about it.
You are also absolutely correct that the Northern Somaliland loves peace. A mark of a civilized mind is love of peace and gentleness. However, I wont put much stake on the gentleness. The Somalilanders tend to talk loud, wave fingers left and right. But gentleness is relativity--relative to the South--very abhorrent savages-- sure Isaaqs look good!

[Rambie]

My friends , I hate to tell you this , but the superiority of the Northerner over the southerner is almost a universal thing .
When I look at the history of our "richer" brothers of the human race , the Europeans , one cannot ignore that fact .
Quick example , Great Britain , one of the greatest country on Earth , wonderful , civilized , learned ,cultured people why are they called English and not Saxons ? who's more northern is MY answer
Why do the Danes kept messing with the English ? Because they live North of the Angles
What made the Vikings think they could impose their ways to their more southern European neighbours ? Because of North again .
What saved the zomalis is the fact they have a peace loving northern clan .
Long live all the Northern people of any country no matter where they live:

Sahan

I agree with your point. Northern people tend to be more gentler and more civilized than southern people. By the way-- English is the shorten derivative name for Anglo-Saxon. Same thing, English is cleaner and civilized than the harsh sounding Anglo Saxon. Is Somaliland more civilized than the south? No doubt about it.
You are also absolutely correct that the Northern Somaliland loves peace. A mark of a civilized mind is love of peace and gentleness. However, I wont put much stake on the gentleness. The Somalilanders tend to talk loud, wave fingers left and right. But gentleness is relativity--relative to the South--very abhorrent savages-- sure Isaaqs look good!

Qolama tahay Basray?
Set the record straifgt once and for all.

[SahanGalbeed]

Europeans are the best people wallahi , hands down .
First of all , I would like to tell those who call me a " ethnic group bootyclapper" that I am physically INCAPABLE of doing that
No 2 , When you learn about somebody else's history , you tend to understand things better , you get a different perspective
For example , if you're a frontierSomali who doesn't like Kenyans very much , and you know that in history the current European actors in Africa were on the receiving end of a more equalitarian nomado-opportunistic bunch coming from their North , then you can grasp the idea behind the English training the Kikuyu on how to better fight the somali . {good luck on that }


No 3 , if you would allow me to take Mr Grant here as an example . Great man who's contributed to the Somalis more than any of us here present , comes from a great clan who's produced Gen Ulysses Grant , a man they called a "drinker" after he saved the United States of America { some people have no shame } ... so mr Grant here , although a wonderful individual , has been seen conniving with the anti- Issaq partisans on this board .
What do we do ?
We're not gonna , attack him, restrain him,impeach him, no ... we're just gonna learn about his tribe .

[Hyperactive]

Why is it spelled with a Q?

Wrong should be khalad. So, I presume khaldaan should be the correct spelling.

You see?

never heard with "kh" it's غلط. i dont know if somali has letter غ.

rer konfur love world " kh"

[Rambie]

Why is it spelled with a Q?

Wrong should be khalad. So, I presume khaldaan should be the correct spelling.

You see?

never heard with "kh" it's غلط. i dont know if somali has letter غ.

rer konfur love world " kh"

That's because you live in the Gulf who over use غ in their accent.

In standard Arabic "العربي الفصيح" like that you read on TV subtitles there is no such thing as خطأن but خطأ Arabs in the Gulf "invented" this word as part of their accent and swapped the خ with غ

The southerns did even worse.
They swapped the غ with the ق than they throw around this word Qaldaan (Mistaken) as if they don't realize that they just committed a crime against the Arabic language.


Geneally speaking, in the standard "Arabic grammar, Vocabulary" النحو, there is no such thing as خطأن or غلطان ( neither قلطان for that matter )

So this word backfired heavily on southerns because:
1-The word they use as an insult meaning "Mistaken" is actually wrong on all levels.

2- This word describes them perfectly since they (southerns) destroyed the Somali nation beyond repair and than they throw this word around on northerns as if we're the ones killing each other for 20 something tears.

That's why I said in the beginning that I find those who use this word kinda cute and funny.

When someone like Dr. Yalaxow throws this word around when he wants to insult us or something, he doesn't see the hidden irony behind this flawed concept.

[Hyperactive]

lol he mean kha'ta? them should say khata'oon. lol

i thought he mean ghalad.

cause there is الفرق بين الغلط والخطأ in meaning in arabic language, alfusha.

[Hyperactive]

الفرق بين الخطأ والغلط

أن الغلط هو وضع الشيء في غير موضعه، ويجوز أن يكون صواباً في نفسه،
وأما الخطأ: لا يكون صواباً على وجه أبدًا، وقال بعضهم: الغلط: أن يسهى عن ترتيب الشيء وإحكامه، والخطأ: أن يسهى عن فعله أو أن يوقعه من غير قصد له ولكن لغيره
[معجم الفروق اللغوية لأبي هلال العسكري: 25 فما فوق]


: لسان العرب، القاموس المحيط وتاج العروس يتفقون على التعريف التالي

الغَلَطُ: أَن تَعْيا بالشيء فلا تَعْرِفَ وجه الصواب فيه،
الخَطَأُ: ضدُّ الصواب​


so i think they mean الغلط not الخطأ cause they feel you misplace words

[CaliQase]

Rambie and Hyper, whatever it was in Arabic we Somalized it (or Koonfurized it for that matter ). It is very logic when you loan a word you somehow tweak it and pronounce it more like you pronounce your own words.

Imminka waxaad arkaysaa islaamo iyo odayaal ku leh Soomaaliliin Laantii bay Soomaaliyaysteen dee.

Afeef: Ma ahan in aan difaacaayo isticmaalka ereyga 'Qaldaan'

[Siciid85]

When saying Khalid or khadar err konfur pronounce it as Qadar and Qaalid.
But when it comes to Qadan, they say Khadan.

Consistently inconsistent

[Rambie]

الفرق بين الخطأ والغلط

أن الغلط هو وضع الشيء في غير موضعه، ويجوز أن يكون صواباً في نفسه،
وأما الخطأ: لا يكون صواباً على وجه أبدًا، وقال بعضهم: الغلط: أن يسهى عن ترتيب الشيء وإحكامه، والخطأ: أن يسهى عن فعله أو أن يوقعه من غير قصد له ولكن لغيره
[معجم الفروق اللغوية لأبي هلال العسكري: 25 فما فوق]


: لسان العرب، القاموس المحيط وتاج العروس يتفقون على التعريف التالي

الغَلَطُ: أَن تَعْيا بالشيء فلا تَعْرِفَ وجه الصواب فيه،
الخَطَأُ: ضدُّ الصواب​


so i think they mean الغلط not الخطأ cause they feel you misplace words

Hyper,

It's the first time I hear bout this word in standard Arabic, even back in the school never came across it.
So let me get this straight, this word means :

"Putting something in a wrong place (not designed for it) in a good well". Or when placing it in this case, it means roughly behaving or doing something inappropriate, out of the norm with clean intentions. It's kinda confusing and a bit fishy, but nevertheless, it doesn't change the meaning much.

Ramadan karim btw,

[Rooble90]

I Think It Has To Do With The Accent Of The Northern Somali Clans ... As in when they speak they Call Things with different Terms ..

But Nowadays in Somalia People Dont Really Care If u Have An Accent, Especially in Xamar ... Cause There are Alot of Different Accents being used there wether its .. Bari, Waqooyi, Maay Maay, Mudug etc..etc

Kan yar e doqonka ah e hoyadi ku abtirista, gets wet everytime he sees Isaaq or Somaliland. His like a special needs child with a identity crises. The fool thinks his Darod. As if he was the first non Darod ever born to a Darod women.

Listen kid stop this insecurity. Your Gudabursi and no amount of nut hugging Darods will make u one.

why are you Bringing up Qabiils ? And when have i ever said I claim my moms qabiil ? Lol walle your Funny ..

But then again you just wanna start that cantarbaqash talk lol and fYI the title or Even The Post Never Had "somaliland" or "isaaq" in it