Question! Serious answers please

[Itrah]

allow dhowr laandheerooyinka habar jeclo iyo garxajis. teeda kale, many people including many isaaq have been saying habar awal lineage is dubious, that they are of oromo descent. what can you say about that sxb

habar yonis and habar awal have different haplogroups (confirmed). Just ask SahanGalbeed (HA) & CasualFarah (HY) who did a genetics test.

Not the same clan at all.

[Rambie]

allow dhowr laandheerooyinka habar jeclo iyo garxajis. teeda kale, many people including many isaaq have been saying habar awal lineage is dubious, that they are of oromo descent. what can you say about that sxb

Waxas wa brobaganda, xakay Oromo ku arken? OG bay Galbeed la dagaan.

[Rambie]

allow dhowr laandheerooyinka habar jeclo iyo garxajis. teeda kale, many people including many isaaq have been saying habar awal lineage is dubious, that they are of oromo descent. what can you say about that sxb

habar yonis and habar awal have different haplogroups (confirmed). Just ask SahanGalbeed (HA) & CasualFarah (HY) who did a genetics test.

Not the same clan at all.

[Itrah]

There are even more of them on 23andme confirming the pattern. If you don't believe it, you have these snetters as verification.

[Rambie]

If you say so.

[Itrah]

If you say so.

What type of idoor are you?

[Rambie]

If you say so.

What type of idoor are you?

HJ with connections to HY & Dhulus.
Why, you wanna rat lab?

[zumaale]

If you say so.

Rambie

I must second Itrah on the point he made. Going by current result trends, Habar Yoonis and Sacad Muuse belong to two different lineages. HY are overwhelmingly haplogroup T whilst Sacad Muuse are closer to Daroods in origin as they mostly belong to the same E-V32 Lowland East Cushitic haplogroup.

Not enough data to make firm statements on the lineage of the Habar Jeclos as both haplogroups are found among them but I do not know yet which subclans are mainly haplogroup T or haplogroup E-V32

[Rambie]

If you say so.

Rambie

I must second Itrah on the point he made. Going by current result trends, Habar Yoonis and Sacad Muuse belong to two different lineages. HY are overwhelmingly haplogroup T whilst Sacad Muuse are closer to Daroods in origin as they mostly belong to the same E-V32 Lowland East Cushitic haplogroup.

Not enough data to make firm statements on the lineage of the Habar Jeclos as both haplogroups are found among them but I do not know yet which subclans are mainly haplogroup T or haplogroup E-V32

With all duo respect, I couldn't care less!

[theyuusuf143]

laandheer = large clan ( in terms of population, land mass, political influence, $$$$)
laangaab = direct opposite of laandheer.

Tell me your clan and I will tell you which category they fall into.

Abgaal, celi. My husband is HG, Sacad . Explain which both fall into
Cheers

Abgaal are just laandheere
Habargidir is not only laandheere but strongest and the bravest clan on earth. You are very lucky that you are married to Habargidir.

[jalaaludin5]

Habar awal Allaw Dhawr.
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Zumaale.

it will take more than a DNA test to make your clan relevant in the political, economical and social landscape of Somali.

[zumaale]

If you say so.

Rambie

I must second Itrah on the point he made. Going by current result trends, Habar Yoonis and Sacad Muuse belong to two different lineages. HY are overwhelmingly haplogroup T whilst Sacad Muuse are closer to Daroods in origin as they mostly belong to the same E-V32 Lowland East Cushitic haplogroup.

Not enough data to make firm statements on the lineage of the Habar Jeclos as both haplogroups are found among them but I do not know yet which subclans are mainly haplogroup T or haplogroup E-V32

With all due respect, I couldn't care less!

No worries bro.

Just be mindful when you debate with Itrah or anyone else in matters concerning lineage that it is best to go in with some information that is built on solid foundations so as not to be hoodwinked.

[Rambie]

[theyuusuf143]

I think that will make it a Hexagon

you forget tha places we control beyond the Hexagon

[zumaale]

Habar awal Allaw Dhawr.
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Zumaale.

it will take more than a DNA test to make your clan relevant in the political, economical and social landscape of Somali.

No need to get emotional son and throw daggers at me. Where did I insult you? Caadi iska dhig and stop being insecure about your origin.

I am happy with the skin I live in. Political and economic factors can change with time but nothing can change the blood that flows through your veins. My quest is to determine that the people I share a Qabil with are my brothers by blood and not an attempt to inflate my clan ego.