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Trololol, just because they look dark and very ''Sub-Saharan'' does not mean they are Bantu. They are purely Nilo-Saharan.Kunama is considered semi-Nilo-Bantu. They can fit into both groups. The Nara are pure Nilo-Saharans.
Id say its going to be difficult to seperate yourself from thr Habesha identity if youre a Tigrinya which constitute the majority of Eritreas population as even tho you guys had your own region for a long time, youre still culturally connected to the Tigryans and Amharas of Ethiopia even if you believe they arent linked to the Axumite empire (which they are if you consider than most still have partial Yemeni ancestry altho Eritrean Tigrenyas are a bit more mixed). Habesha is essentially a overarching ethnicity which traces most Northrrn Highlander groups to the Dmt and Axum empire which precedes Abyssinia and Behr Negash. For much of your history, the Habeshas were one. Geez is the parent langauge of the habesha, not Tigrinya. Most of you practice a unique form of Christianity before you converted to Islam, you all use very similar script , and you all have similar cultural practices and clothings.Es Salam Alaykum.
Is it common for Somalis to portray Ethiopia and Eritrea as a Habesha nation? I have been lurking this forum for a while now, and it seems every time there is a thread about Ethiopia or Eritrea, Habesha is mentioned but outside, I never never experience hearing it.
I will make it clear for you. The term doesn't exist nor used anymore after Abyssinia died out. It is also a very offensive term where Eritreans will disrespect you if you mention it directly. For two reasons why calling Habesha is wrong:
1) Habesha only refer to the people of Amhara, Tigray and the Gurage. They're minority and only inhabit in the Northern Highland. However, they have more power - the government, economical and military sector is owned by them (mainly Tigray) for several decades which is why you often hear deceitful sources from them and common portrayal like Amharic, Tigrinya or Tigray etc and not the others who are not commonly known.
2) It is a term associate with Christianity so it is an insult for the Muslims. 85% of the Eritreans are Muslims and all tribes other than the Tigray are Muslim dominated but the country is ruled by the minority Tigrays. In Tigray led-Ethiopia, despite its portrayal of Christian nation, 65% of the people are Muslims, mostly Cushitic. They often hate being labelled as Habesha. About 20% of the so-called Habesha are Muslims as well.
So, please do not lump us as one people or link us with Habesha.
Hope that's clear!
. Im not a christian, all I know is theyve been practicing the christian faith for more than a thousands years. Perhaps there are other sects but theyre still under the Ethio/Eri orthodox branch, kinda like how sufism and whabhism is still under islam.Harar,
Yeah their anti-Habesha status-quo is not healthy because in reality they were all Habesha yesterday one way or another and many still are. So Eritrea should not alienate them and re-brand itself as Arab Republic.
What happens in post Isaias? Will there be war between lowlands and the Kebessa?
Who wins in such case?
Eritrea always needs the Kebessa regardless because the Kebessa understand the Tigregus the most and their insight knowledge could make the difference as it did when EPLF was formed. I doubt ELF would have won the war at least not as quick as EPLF.
As for the Amhara you mix a lot of things.
The original homeland of the Amhara has always been Wollo and before it was re-named Wollo, it was known as Bete Amhara.
They moved to Begemder (Gonder) much later time because originally the Agews sat on its passage (Wag).
Oromo only arrived in Wollo in the late 15th century taking advantage of the Abyssinian-Adal Empire wars.
They followed the Othordox religion but Tewahedo was a 18th century name or reforms under Emperor Tewadoros II having banned The Walda Qib and Tsagga sects-----he re-named it Tewahedo meaning Unity.
Im not very optimistic when it comes to Eritrea. Issias should have been assasinatwd by now and replaced by a unity government. And also im also very worried about this potential muslim lowlander vs predominatly christian highlander conflict once isias dies. As much as Eritreans in the diapsora want to paint a unified front, theres still a large cultural gap between lowlanders and highlanders and Eritrea has only been held together by a universal hatred of Ethiopia and Afewerkis i iron fist. Eritrea is too young for a national indentity to exist, not to mention most Eritrean ethnic groups besides Tigre/Tigrenya dont even interact with other ethnic groups. Its a bit like Ethiopia in that respects. Once Isias dies, Im expecting a civil war to ensue as The eritrean regime was always dependant on Afewerkis personality to maintain control and I dont think a puppet leader will ever replace Afewerki. I dont know how Ethiopia didnt go through a violent phase when meles died, he must of had some arrangements. Meles, as much as I hate him, is a very smart man in that respectHarar,
Yeah their anti-Habesha status-quo is not healthy because in reality they were all Habesha yesterday one way or another and many still are. So Eritrea should not alienate them and re-brand itself as Arab Republic.
What happens in post Isaias? Will there be war between lowlands and the Kebessa?
Who wins in such case?
Eritrea always needs the Kebessa regardless because the Kebessa understand the Tigregus the most and their insight knowledge could make the difference as it did when EPLF was formed. I doubt ELF would have won the war at least not as quick as EPLF.
As for the Amhara you mix a lot of things.
The original homeland of the Amhara has always been Wollo and before it was re-named Wollo, it was known as Bete Amhara.
They moved to Begemder (Gonder) much later time because originally the Agews sat on its passage (Wag).
Oromo only arrived in Wollo in the late 15th century taking advantage of the Abyssinian-Adal Empire wars.
They followed the Othordox religion but Tewahedo was a 18th century name or reforms under Emperor Tewadoros II having banned the Walda-Qib/Qebat and Walda-Tsagga (sons of Grace) sects-----he re-named it Tewahedo meaning Unity.
I notice many Ethiopians who are called Tsegge (Grace) now days happen to follow Pente maybe they protesting Tewahedo's outlaw
You seem very knowledgeable, what regions of Amhara do you think has the most legitimate claim to Aksumite ancestry? I mean we all know the Aksumites had alot of yemeni Ancestry, and ive seen alot light skin Amharas ut Ive also seen alotta amharas who could pass as pure oromos.Harar,
Yeah their anti-Habesha status-quo is not healthy because in reality they were all Habesha yesterday one way or another and many still are. So Eritrea should not alienate them and re-brand itself as Arab Republic.
What happens in post Isaias? Will there be war between lowlands and the Kebessa?
Who wins in such case?
Eritrea always needs the Kebessa regardless because the Kebessa understand the Tigregus the most and their insight knowledge could make the difference as it did when EPLF was formed. I doubt ELF would have won the war at least not as quick as EPLF.
As for the Amhara you mix a lot of things.
The original homeland of the Amhara has always been Wollo and before it was re-named Wollo, it was known as Bete Amhara.
They moved to Begemder (Gonder) much later time because originally the Agews sat on its passage (Wag).
Oromo only arrived in Wollo in the late 15th century taking advantage of the Abyssinian-Adal Empire wars.
They followed the Othordox religion but Tewahedo was a 18th century name or reforms under Emperor Tewadoros II having banned the Walda-Qib/Qebat and Walda-Tsagga (sons of Grace) sects-----he re-named it Tewahedo meaning Unity.
I notice many Ethiopians who are called Tsegge (Grace) now days happen to follow Pente maybe they protesting Tewahedo's outlaw
I read that many Beja speak Sudanese Arabic only. Kinda sad that this language is taking off in this region in favor of native languages.
PS. The Kunama and Nara are Nilo-Saharan, they have no Bantu ties at all.
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