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Arab culture... one of the vices that is killing us

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Arab culture... one of the vices that is killing us

Postby TheFuturist » Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:21 pm

This culture has brought so much bad into somali society and culture... and its killing us. Its like we took on only the worst aspects of their culture*. The top 3:

Alshabab, extremism and suicide bombings... aka Arabia/Wahabism school of thought.

Oppression of women and misogyny... strong Arab influence, especially those Somalis exposed to Gulf culture during oil boom years and Yemen before that.

FGM (originated in Egypt, adopted through interaction with the Arabs).

*That is not to say we dont have our own home grown problems or that Arab culture doesnt have good aspects.

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Re: Arab culture... one of the vices that is killing us

Postby jalaaludin5 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:03 pm

Yet, Allah in His infinite wisdom, chose our Beloved Prophet (saw) from the Arab nations :blessed:
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I bring blessings upon you, (O Muhammad), so that the breeze of 
nearness (to God) may increase. Since, with nearness of the 
Whole, all parts are allowed to approach.
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Suddenly, there grew a "branch of candy."
(And) suddenly, there bubbled such a Water of (Eternal) Life.
Suddenly, there flowed alms (to the poor) from the king.
(May) there be joy for the soul of Muhammad, and greetings (of 
peace)!
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The spirit that was bound within the form of attributes
Went to the (Divine) Essence by means of the light of 
(Muhammad) the Chosen.
The moment it started going, it said out of joy,
"Blessings (be) on the joyful spirit of (Muhammad) the Chosen!"
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Just as, during the night of the Ascension, God made (the greeting 
of peace) with the Light of the Absolute upon Muhammad: "Peace 
be upon you."
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There has never been a beauty like that of a (Prophet like) 
Muhammad in this world or the next. May the Glory of God help 
him!
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A voice from the lofty ones (among the angels came) from Heaven 
to every beggar: "O pure spirit of the one who is followed! O 
"Mercy to (all) peoples"! [Qur'ân 21:107]
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Yet, I have seen the signs of Your Grace and Kindness in the 
appearance of that incomparable Pearl, O Generous One.

Since, although he is from (among) us, he doesn't resemble us. We 
are entirely (like) copper, and Muhammad is (like) the (alchemical) 
elixir.
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Muhammad broke many idols in the world, so that (religious) 
communities were saying, "O (our Sustaining) Lord!"

If it had not been for Muhammad's efforts, you also would have 
worshiped idols like your ancestors.

This head of yours has escaped from prostrating to idols, so that 
you may recognize his claim (of gratitude) upon the (religious) 
community.

If you speak, talk about gratitude for this liberation, so that he may 
also free you from the inward idol.

Because he freed your head from (worship of) idols, you should 
also liberate your heart by means of that power.
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We learned the skill of being a (true) man from God. We are the 
heroes of Love and the companions of Muhammad.


Mawlânâ Rûmî's Praises of the Prophet Muhammad 
(peace be upon him)

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Re: Arab culture... one of the vices that is killing us

Postby Renis » Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:22 pm

Somalia got FGM before Arabs came to Africa...

Stop blaming our shitty culture on others.

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Re: Arab culture... one of the vices that is killing us

Postby gegiroor » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:17 pm

The so-called Waaqist, Athiests and ever gaalo qqurunley has an obsession with Arabs in their disguised effort to attack Islam. Rest assured the march of Islam will continue and will reach every home as Allah has promised. No amount of cheap shots will stop the march of Islam. It will indeed triumph over all of the false deities all kufars follow.

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Re: Arab culture... one of the vices that is killing us

Postby Hararboy » Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:02 pm

FGM actually originated from ancient Egypt, back when the region was called Puntland.

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Re: Arab culture... one of the vices that is killing us

Postby GAMES » Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:28 pm

There are two types of FGM, Sunnah and Fircooni.

Somalis practiced Fircooni which was imported from Pre Islamic Egypt (Female genitals were use to be cut off before they were mummified and buried in Pyramids).

But in the last 15yrs, Somalis have embraced Sunnah gudniin.

Me personally, i am against FGM and we should get rid of it.

A lot of Somali regions banned this evil practice.

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Re: Arab culture... one of the vices that is killing us

Postby Siciid85 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:46 pm

What the OP means by Arab culture is Islam. Readers be ware of these effing Gallo snakes.

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Re: Arab culture... one of the vices that is killing us

Postby inaXasan » Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:37 am

Hijaab & Indhoshareer and qamiis & cimaamad used to be traditional Arab clothing. now it has been incorporated as Islamic traditional clothing.

Nowhere in the Quran is it written to wear Xijab or Qamiis to be a good muslim but these "wadaads" keep preaching it everywhere. The Quran should be what we use to define islam not some sayings written down hundreds of years after the Prophet died, which are btw mostly contradicting even basic Islamic teachings.

The Quran has no one questioning it but majority of the Hadiths are constantly being debated and disproved. The Quran is perfect the way it is and does not need anyone defining it for us.

It is translated in every major language now so we don't need interpretation. If Allah wanted the message to spread He wouldn't want to make it into riddles which are difficult to understand for the normal person. The Quran is simple and straight foward as it is. Interpreters are useless these days.

Also, extremism/Islamism is a big problem among muslims , you are delusional if you think it doesn't exist. This way of thinking is strange and dangerous. We can't have scientific minds if we are wahabi

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Re: Arab culture... one of the vices that is killing us

Postby Kudo » Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:58 am

The so-called Waaqist, Athiests and ever gaalo qqurunley has an obsession with Arabs in their disguised effort to attack Islam. Rest assured the march of Islam will continue and will reach every home as Allah has promised. No amount of cheap shots will stop the march of Islam. It will indeed triumph over all of the false deities all kufars follow.
Alot of people have this black and white perspective; you can be against arabic cultural expansion and be a muslim.

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Re: Arab culture... one of the vices that is killing us

Postby CaliQase » Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:19 am

Hijaab & Indhoshareer and qamiis & cimaamad used to be traditional Arab clothing. now it has been incorporated as Islamic traditional clothing.

Nowhere in the Quran is it written to wear Xijab or Qamiis to be a good muslim but these "wadaads" keep preaching it everywhere. The Quran should be what we use to define islam not some sayings written down hundreds of years after the Prophet died, which are btw mostly contradicting even basic Islamic teachings.

The Quran has no one questioning it but majority of the Hadiths are constantly being debated and disproved. The Quran is perfect the way it is and does not need anyone defining it for us.

It is translated in every major language now so we don't need interpretation. If Allah wanted the message to spread He wouldn't want to make it into riddles which are difficult to understand for the normal person. The Quran is simple and straight foward as it is. Interpreters are useless these days.

Also, extremism/Islamism is a big problem among muslims , you are delusional if you think it doesn't exist. This way of thinking is strange and dangerous. We can't have scientific minds if we are wahabi
You are telling me the common muslim can understand the Koran just like how Ibn Cabbaas, Ibn Mascuud & Cali, Bukhari, Muslim & Tirmidi understood?

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Re: Arab culture... one of the vices that is killing us

Postby Hyperactive » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:07 am

Yes Arabs are the shit, we need to fight them and kill few and capture many to teach them a lesson to not mess with out culture!!!

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Re: Arab culture... one of the vices that is killing us

Postby inaXasan » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:13 am

Hijaab & Indhoshareer and qamiis & cimaamad used to be traditional Arab clothing. now it has been incorporated as Islamic traditional clothing.

Nowhere in the Quran is it written to wear Xijab or Qamiis to be a good muslim but these "wadaads" keep preaching it everywhere. The Quran should be what we use to define islam not some sayings written down hundreds of years after the Prophet died, which are btw mostly contradicting even basic Islamic teachings.

The Quran has no one questioning it but majority of the Hadiths are constantly being debated and disproved. The Quran is perfect the way it is and does not need anyone defining it for us.

It is translated in every major language now so we don't need interpretation. If Allah wanted the message to spread He wouldn't want to make it into riddles which are difficult to understand for the normal person. The Quran is simple and straight foward as it is. Interpreters are useless these days.

Also, extremism/Islamism is a big problem among muslims , you are delusional if you think it doesn't exist. This way of thinking is strange and dangerous. We can't have scientific minds if we are wahabi
You are telling me the common muslim can understand the Koran just like how Ibn Cabbaas, Ibn Mascuud & Cali, Bukhari, Muslim & Tirmidi understood?

Yes, The common muslim can find everything he/she needs in the Quran. look at some of the basic teachings of the Quran.


- Worship Allah only.
- Muxamad saw was the last prophet.
- 5 pillars of Islam
- Afterlife
- The Angels
- The Prophets & messengers of Allah
- The people of the book
- Marriage
- Inheritance
- Justice
- History of Islam
- The right & wrong paths.

etc

What more do you need as a Muslim? Those men were great scholars highly educated people who searched everywhere for knowledge of Islam. You don't need to be like those men to be a good muslim.

Saying the Quran isn't simple to understand also means that it has failed to get the message of Islam across. Allah knows better than to send down an unbreakable complex code that only highly educated Arab men understand and will confuse and devide people for many many years.

The Quran was meant for elites then according to your way of thinking and not for the common people.

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Re: Arab culture... one of the vices that is killing us

Postby CaliQase » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:34 am

Hijaab & Indhoshareer and qamiis & cimaamad used to be traditional Arab clothing. now it has been incorporated as Islamic traditional clothing.

Nowhere in the Quran is it written to wear Xijab or Qamiis to be a good muslim but these "wadaads" keep preaching it everywhere. The Quran should be what we use to define islam not some sayings written down hundreds of years after the Prophet died, which are btw mostly contradicting even basic Islamic teachings.

The Quran has no one questioning it but majority of the Hadiths are constantly being debated and disproved. The Quran is perfect the way it is and does not need anyone defining it for us.

It is translated in every major language now so we don't need interpretation. If Allah wanted the message to spread He wouldn't want to make it into riddles which are difficult to understand for the normal person. The Quran is simple and straight foward as it is. Interpreters are useless these days.

Also, extremism/Islamism is a big problem among muslims , you are delusional if you think it doesn't exist. This way of thinking is strange and dangerous. We can't have scientific minds if we are wahabi
You are telling me the common muslim can understand the Koran just like how Ibn Cabbaas, Ibn Mascuud & Cali, Bukhari, Muslim & Tirmidi understood?

Yes, The common muslim can find everything he/she needs in the Quran. look at some of the basic teachings of the Quran.


- Worship Allah only.
- Muxamad saw was the last prophet.
- 5 pillars of Islam
- Afterlife
- The Angels
- The Prophets & messengers of Allah
- The people of the book
- Marriage
- Inheritance
- Justice
- History of Islam
- The right & wrong paths.

etc

What more do you need as a Muslim? Those men were great scholars highly educated people who searched everywhere for knowledge of Islam. You don't need to be like those men to be a good muslim.

Saying the Quran isn't simple to understand also means that it has failed to get the message of Islam across. Allah knows better than to send down an unbreakable complex code that only highly educated Arab men understand and will confuse and devide people for many many years.

The Quran was meant for elites then according to your way of thinking and not for the common people.
All those basic knowledge of Islam that we take for granted is the work of those scholars. And if you think that Arabs have it easy because the Koran is in Arabic, you are mistaken. They also need the scholars almost as much as we (Non-Arabs) do.

Sure, every muslim won't be an scholar like Ibn Mascuud and Bukhaari but, we need to have scholars among us, otherewise we would we would have lost our religion.

Oh! Did I tell you that the greatest Islamic Scholars were not Arabs? lol

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Re: Arab culture... one of the vices that is killing us

Postby SahanGalbeed » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:55 am

Arabs have a language and a religion in common . They don't exactly have the same " culture" in Lebanon and Oman . Arabs with the grace of Allah when from utterly backward to mystically magnetic , got the yellow hair monkey out of the forest . What you are referring to that is happening to us today in my humble opinion is the result of Allah not being happy with the Sauds { cheap below the belt shot :lol:} , nothing to do with arabs in general .
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Re: Arab culture... one of the vices that is killing us

Postby inaXasan » Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:05 am


All those basic knowledge of Islam that we take for granted is the work of those scholars. And if you think that Arabs have it easy because the Koran is in Arabic, you are mistaken. They also need the scholars almost as much as we (Non-Arabs) do.

Sure, every muslim won't be an scholar like Ibn Mascuud and Bukhaari but, we need to have scholars among us, otherewise we would we would have lost our religion.

Oh! Did I tell you that the greatest Islamic Scholars were not Arabs? lol
Yes , I agree :up: scholars are teachers to us :up: I made mistake saying they are not needed :up: and they weren't all Arab :lol:

but what about the disagreements and confusion among scholars? 1.7 Billion Muslims and they can''t agree with each other.

So many wadaads which one is telling the truth? It is safer to follow something all Muslims agree with i.e the Quran :up:


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