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Re: Quick question.

Postby Hyperactive » Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:09 pm

theguardian, still they have rights to give sperm and the womb and giving birth. that still counts. you have right to dislike them, have feeling toward them, hatting in them but still you can show even as underteeth displeasure toward them that they feel it or heart it.

in the quran, wasnt conditions if they were good parents or bad. they gave you birth. you never lknow reason they abonded you. some family member lie and make parents who abondant their children as monesters. there is reason if you dont even agree with.

وَوَصَّيْنَا الْإِنْسَانَ بِوَالِدَيْهِ حَمَلَتْهُ أُمُّهُ وَهْنًا عَلَىٰ وَهْنٍ وَفِصَالُهُ فِي عَامَيْنِ أَنِ اشْكُرْ لِي وَلِوَالِدَيْكَ إِلَيَّ الْمَصِيرُ
And We have enjoined on man (to be good) to his parents: in travail upon travail did his mother bear him, and in years twain was his weaning: (hear the command), "Show gratitude to Me and to thy parents: to Me is (thy final) Goal.

oops, ina samaale beat me to it.

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Re: Quick question.

Postby gegiroor » Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:40 pm

Help your parent in any way you can.

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Re: Quick question.

Postby PhilosopherOfShamaal » Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:50 pm

I would say ask a sheikh... do not take answers from people with no ilm in regard to your din.

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Re: Quick question.

Postby CigaalSHiiDaaDCFC » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:08 pm

let me just say my dad wasnt the best dad in the world :( ... but if i were advising this brother, i would say be nice, go above nd beyond, send them to hajj give them everything they need that you can, walahi this will punish them, if they have any dignity, they would feel ashamed how they negtleted him and what he is doing for them now, and tell him dont listen shaydaan reminding him about the past, he should always remember that he isnt doing this out of compassion or love he has for them but ilahay dartiis iyo sadaqo ahaan ps, just bcz they neglected you doesnt mean you should do the same, remember, allah mentioned parents right after cibaadada.

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Re: Quick question.

Postby Machiavelli2 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:44 pm

It is very rare for a Somali mother to abandon her children, what we suffer today is a chronic deadbeat dad phoenomenon. If a father abandons his children, it's best that you don't become an angry vengeful adult and should be kind to him in old age. This teaches your own children to have strength and exercise Samir in the face of adversity and the humiliation of their father being abandoned by his father. It also teaches them values such as forgiveness and may mould them to become family oriented adults who will never abandon their children.

Having said that, I wouldn't mind naming and shaming deadbeat dads of young children, so we could discourage it becoming the norm in our community.

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Re: Quick question.

Postby MoAwr » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:49 pm

Yusuf- Why don't you try to take out the time to visit her intay nooshahay?
Priceless :up:

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Re: Quick question.

Postby Theguardian » Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:48 pm

theguardian, still they have rights to give sperm and the womb and giving birth. that still counts. you have right to dislike them, have feeling toward them, hatting in them but still you can show even as underteeth displeasure toward them that they feel it or heart it.

in the quran, wasnt conditions if they were good parents or bad. they gave you birth. you never lknow reason they abonded you. some family member lie and make parents who abondant their children as monesters. there is reason if you dont even agree with.

وَوَصَّيْنَا الْإِنْسَانَ بِوَالِدَيْهِ حَمَلَتْهُ أُمُّهُ وَهْنًا عَلَىٰ وَهْنٍ وَفِصَالُهُ فِي عَامَيْنِ أَنِ اشْكُرْ لِي وَلِوَالِدَيْكَ إِلَيَّ الْمَصِيرُ
And We have enjoined on man (to be good) to his parents: in travail upon travail did his mother bear him, and in years twain was his weaning: (hear the command), "Show gratitude to Me and to thy parents: to Me is (thy final) Goal.

oops, ina samaale beat me to it.
That hadith is open to interpretation and it is a sunnah -therefore not compulsory- also it is one of hadith abused by parents who abandon their children. I feel -you lose any right -the day you walk out their lives without reasonable explanation - after all -Allah is fair and just.

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Re: Quick question.

Postby Hyperactive » Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:57 pm

no hadeeth sister, that is quran. and it's clear and nothing to do state of parent , unless they call you to disobey God you required to treat them well "bil i7saan" . i7saan is obove even same treating...it's best treatment.


no one ever in the past or present scholars or mofasereen ever said otherwise. once they got old you have to treat them well or they an take you to court too if you in muslim country.

a lot of parents sue their adult kids for support, even the abondon them.

no one can force you to love them but you do not show them hate or even dislike.


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