i am suffering in canada!

[Kareem99]

Good point Games, I guess we simply don't know. But Winnipeg isn't exactly a gathering place for Somalis I reckon.

[FarhanYare]

What do you suggest? She should be on birth control and waste her precious eggs? No excuse even if she was unfit mum with her first child.

[Hyperactive]

kareem, no one kicking any one when they down. no question this woman needs all help she can get. this woman isn't first or last her kids taken away or will in our community. it's only bandage to help every case. we need long term educational for our people who are less fortune .

I understand not every one migrates educated and financial only migrates.

I know a thing or two about law. first, you need to acknowledge it, accept it, learn it then fight it using loopholes and against abuse of law enforcements. that's 101 law every one show know it or get a lawyer.

I know every one is not as lucky as I am, first when I decide to apply land immigrate or permanent resident , I hired a lawyer cause I do not know the law and while I am getting familiar I need help from expert. and wasn't immigration law only, also civil lawyer.

to fight this case, we need to bull the official files and challenge it not hearsay. the things she did, having kids while there is law she isn't fit, wont help much. my best argument in the court would be; she didn't know/didn't understand. here comes the responsibility of community leaders. we cannot just cry when ever happens to one of us. we can prevent most of cases if we act and not only react.

one of my auntie's son in Edmonton , Canada maybe BlueLion would know him,( 3 of my aunties live there) he was just lost soul, married another waste cadaan lady. their 2 kids one 13 months, another 3. middle of night when police came to fight after they drink too much. first one they called was his sister to get the kids until the process the case , either to send foster home or adoption. guess what they were unfit and sister allowed to legally adopt kids as here after many background check. the cadaan mother still fighting even after finalizing the adoption. she got sober and wants her kids back from his sister. dad shaqeysta beya ahayen, beside the drinking weekends and after work ours.

they cannot just take kids, there are process and law and rights. my best guess is she didn't have community and family support and that is hardest case for parents.

we say here; law doesn't protect the foolish.

[Hyperactive]

What do you suggest? She should be on birth control and waste her precious eggs? No excuse even if she was unfit mum with her first child.

it's too late for her case to suggest to put hold on having kids while resolving first 3 kids's case.

there is law and that is excuse to take her kids. law wasn't made for Somalis parents but was there to protect kids and be voice for who doesn't have voice. grown people including parents, harm kids in away or another . for that reason they made Child Services Aid.

there is standard as long as you are in their country to keep it rising kids. not necessary we agree or think is right but still we have to play by it and live by it. or we only harming our selves and kids.

[AyeeyoH]

Wa imtixaan aduun amba wax ay samaysay ba laga jaraya.Cathaab dunya aya dhaama ka aakhira.Whatever its, Allah knows best.Ilaahy samir ha siyo.

[Tuushi]

I am not sure what her case is but i assure no one takes kids away from their mother unlawfully.And keep taking each one after that.

I have seen cases similar in nature in person.Typically,the mother is taken infront of court and declared unfit and if there is no other eligible family(father) or others,then they go thru the foster system.

Some cases are so severe;meaning the mother has been given chance to get her shit together and never did,then do they ban that person from having any other children and if u insist on keeping more children,they will literally wait for her due date and take the child away.

WE Somalis believe this naive notation that all mothers are awesome.

[AyeeyoH]

Tuushi, not all women want children either.Some of them just have them, because society and the husband are expecting of them to have as many kids as possible once they get married.Cidi horta naag ma waydiisa caruur ma rabta? Walle naago badan ba ku haboonen hooyonimu oo caruurta silciya.

[Hyperactive]

tuushi, as case my cousin, my family, specially his mom and his family, believe, is good to take kids from cadaan lady cause she is gaalo and better off kids to life with them cause they muslim.

sidey iskugu na'amleynayan bad ka yaabi. while case is the court, they admit(my eedo and her son) to cheat the mother telling her, accept kids go with my sister instead child services, so when we get our shit together we can take back!! the plan never been to get back kids with their mother.

it was these stages one feels " ooops, I messed up my life, disappointed my family and I want turn around, get rid my past with this woman, take my kids to my family rise them, until I get my shit together, so my sister can adopt them"

our people need tough love and reality check. these extreme case cannot just happen. still she needs help and we should help her.

[Tuushi]

Granny.Not only that.We pressure people to have kids.The moment a couple gets married,u will hear everyone asking them if she pregnant et.Wtf.How is that any of ur business.Maybe they never wanna have children,maybe they cant have them.


Hyper.I know what u mean.

Waa dad xaaram raba.Women write themselves up as separated and feed their kids money pulled from someone who woke up 3 am and maybe had to shovel their sidewalk for minimum wage at -20 temperature while they slept.Noloshaas miyaad kheyr ka sugeysaa.

She does need.I really hope she can be helped.

[GAMES]

Tuushi, not all women want children either.Some of them just have them, because society and the husband are expecting of them to have as many kids as possible once they get married.Cidi horta naag ma waydiisa caruur ma rabta? Walle naago badan ba ku haboonen hooyonimu oo caruurta silciya.

Actually thats not true ayeeyo. Its the other way around. Its nimanka who don't want kids and women forcing them to get married and have kids.

There is a such a thing as 'Addiction to pregnancy and having babies'. A study in the US has found out that some women get 'high from pregnancy'.

Waxeey iska jecel yihiin ineey ilmo iska dhal dhalaan. Look at the Octomom from California, who kept having babies. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.

#Truestories.

[MrSinister]

I used to be emotional about what happens to some people but not any more. our people knowingly or not do stuff that harm them later in their lives. such claiming single mothers when their husband with them and having kids every year but still claim being single. claiming benefits while their husbands makes living, to just cheat system. marrying and not claiming their husband and men not claiming their kids to get benefits from govenmrnt. just short list what they do that may cost them their kids or put them in legal issues with the system.

fist 2 kids was taking from her, then she had 3rd one was taken from her from hospital, she decided to go back home to have more kids so government wont take from her!! is this madness makes sense to you guys? like she gave up on her kids to get more kids and come back to claim them after 5 years!!

least to say; she is irresponsible parent. hope now she learned her lesson.

Ninyahoow waxa Canada ka socda lama socotid ee stop being so judgmental. This is a Somali woman who is down and hurt: either help her or keep walking, but don't kick her while she's down. Irresponsible parent kulahaa, and you don't even have the complete details of this case. Stop being so condescending. We all know the broken aspects of our communities here in North America, we don't need a lesson on that.

agreed here. there is a time for lecturing/finger pointing and there is a time you either help someone or move on.