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Somali UAE community

Postby Tanker » Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:59 pm

what happend to the large 1980s community?

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Re: Somali UAE community

Postby Jaidi » Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:03 pm

Many used to work for municipalities which were privatized and/or Emiratized in later years. Others got priced out of places where they lived and saw few options for their kids past secondary school. Some are still there but majority moved on and live all over the place now.

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Re: Somali UAE community

Postby Hyperactive » Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:05 pm

somalis moving out from khaliij since late 80s.

now we have bussness people and western educated who come to work temporarelly.

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Postby Tanker » Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:39 pm

Many used to work for municipalities which were privatized and/or Emiratized in later years. Others got priced out of places where they lived and saw few options for their kids past secondary school. Some are still there but majority moved on and live all over the place now.
what a terrible time to get fired as Somalia was disintegrating

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Re: Somali UAE community

Postby gurey25 » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:26 am

The majority immigrated as refugees to Europe, Australia, Canada and the US.
A minority went back to Somaliland permanently.
90% of the population was from Somaliland, in the UAE there where 100,000 somalis and we were number 3 in the size of ethnic groups after South Asians and Non-gulf arabs.
by the mid 2000's there were 20,000 and most of them newly arrived from the south and living in dubai.

So a total change of population.

The early group worked for the government, all spoke fluent arabic , in municipalities, Army, Police and state corporations.
With growing population of educated Locals they started replacing Somalis and every other arab population slowly,
with job losses and somali civil war , most took the smart choice and fled, before they got fired.

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Re: Somali UAE community

Postby Hararboy » Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:56 am

I went to dubai a few years ago with my uncle, I saw a few of them in Old Dubai, we even went to a somali owned motel in Old Dubai.

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Re: Somali UAE community

Postby FAH1223 » Wed Feb 17, 2016 12:32 am

I just got back from the UAE and its changed. Barely any Somalis left. When I was a kid, there were so many. My aunt still lives out there. She's been there since the 80s..

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Re: Somali UAE community

Postby Jaidi » Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:42 am

I went to dubai a few years ago with my uncle, I saw a few of them in Old Dubai, we even went to a somali owned motel in Old Dubai.
Those are relatively recent arrivals and businessmen. Not part of the community that was there since UAE independence in the 70's. As Gurey said that community has shrunk substantially because their jobs were privatized/displaced by locals.

On a side note, there's a decent number of Yemenis who lived in Somalia who were able to get naturalized after moving to the UAE in the late 80's. Smaller number of naturalized Somalis as well.

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Postby Hyperactive » Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:45 am

in qatar, we increasing with new somalis. specially western somali families. buying appartments.

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Re: Somali UAE community

Postby SahanGalbeed » Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:52 am

Same thing everywhere , in Saudi in Oman in Aden the majority of the somalis used to be from nowadays Somaliland

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Re: Somali UAE community

Postby Djiboutian » Wed Feb 17, 2016 6:39 pm

The majority immigrated as refugees to Europe, Australia, Canada and the US.
A minority went back to Somaliland permanently.
90% of the population was from Somaliland, in the UAE there where 100,000 somalis and we were number 3 in the size of ethnic groups after South Asians and Non-gulf arabs.
by the mid 2000's there were 20,000 and most of them newly arrived from the south and living in dubai.

So a total change of population.

The early group worked for the government, all spoke fluent arabic , in municipalities, Army, Police and state corporations.
With growing population of educated Locals they started replacing Somalis and every other arab population slowly,
with job losses and somali civil war , most took the smart choice and fled, before they got fired.
Source!

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Re: Somali UAE community

Postby gurey25 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:16 am

The majority immigrated as refugees to Europe, Australia, Canada and the US.
A minority went back to Somaliland permanently.
90% of the population was from Somaliland, in the UAE there where 100,000 somalis and we were number 3 in the size of ethnic groups after South Asians and Non-gulf arabs.
by the mid 2000's there were 20,000 and most of them newly arrived from the south and living in dubai.

So a total change of population.

The early group worked for the government, all spoke fluent arabic , in municipalities, Army, Police and state corporations.
With growing population of educated Locals they started replacing Somalis and every other arab population slowly,
with job losses and somali civil war , most took the smart choice and fled, before they got fired.
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http://www.khaleejtimes.com/nation/gene ... in-the-uae
for the ~20,000 figure in 2000's
its closer to 50,000 today because they eased visa restrictions on somalis.

for the 100,000 figure pre 1990.
I am basing it on the number of male contributers to SNM funds.
it was over 60,000 individual males in UAE, and since half of them have family,
the 100,000 figure it conservative,

There was a higher number in Saudia,
Qatar also had a northerner majority but they were in the 10,000~ range.
Omans somali population was as old as the UAE one but the majority were majerteen.
Yemen had over 50,000 mostly northerners, including warsengeli and majerteen
and some were 3rd or 4tth generation,
most have immigrated as well, replaced by new refugees.
I have several relatives that are older than my father and were born in Aden,
they had access to British citizenship because of their birth certificates.
I even have some that recieved UAE citizenships.

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Re: Somali UAE community

Postby Jaidi » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:39 am

The majority immigrated as refugees to Europe, Australia, Canada and the US.
A minority went back to Somaliland permanently.
90% of the population was from Somaliland, in the UAE there where 100,000 somalis and we were number 3 in the size of ethnic groups after South Asians and Non-gulf arabs.
by the mid 2000's there were 20,000 and most of them newly arrived from the south and living in dubai.

So a total change of population.

The early group worked for the government, all spoke fluent arabic , in municipalities, Army, Police and state corporations.
With growing population of educated Locals they started replacing Somalis and every other arab population slowly,
with job losses and somali civil war , most took the smart choice and fled, before they got fired.
Source!
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/nation/gene ... in-the-uae
for the ~20,000 figure in 2000's
its closer to 50,000 today because they eased visa restrictions on somalis.

for the 100,000 figure pre 1990.
I am basing it on the number of male contributers to SNM funds.
it was over 60,000 individual males in UAE, and since half of them have family,
the 100,000 figure it conservative,

There was a higher number in Saudia,
Qatar also had a northerner majority but they were in the 10,000~ range.
Omans somali population was as old as the UAE one but the majority were majerteen.
Yemen had over 50,000 mostly northerners, including warsengeli and majerteen
and some were 3rd or 4tth generation,
most have immigrated as well, replaced by new refugees.
I have several relatives that are older than my father and were born in Aden,
they had access to British citizenship because of their birth certificates.
I even have some that recieved UAE citizenships.
From one of those 3rd generation families myself and yes this information is accurate.

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Re: Somali UAE community

Postby SahanGalbeed » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:57 pm

So my friends , if the somalis had stayed in the UAE , wouldn't have they become citizens ? Weren't they confident in the ability of the imaraati badaw to transform the desert in a paradise ? :lol: Had they stayed and fight for their rights , they would have been well better off than living in Canada , the UK or Australia don't you think ? Anyway gather your papers before the old ones pass away and mount a PR campaign like the indians have done in Uganda against Idi Amin :lol:

I have some older family members born in Aden , that's why we will not cede it to the houthis 8-)

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Re: Somali UAE community

Postby gurey25 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:42 pm

There was a chance to get citizenship before 1971.
My uncle was there from the mid 60s was unofficial leader of Somali community and was on first name basis with sheikh Zayed raximahullah.
Back then abudhabi was a village and anyone could see the shield at his majlis.
Most Somalis were proud of their country and thought they were temporary migrants.
Some smart ones asked for citizenship and got it.
I have cousins with uae citizenship.
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