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China laying off 5-6 MILLION workers, earmark $23 billion

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China laying off 5-6 MILLION workers, earmark $23 billion

Postby FAH1223 » Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:36 am

Wow.
China aims to lay off 5-6 million state workers over the next two to three years as part of efforts to curb industrial overcapacity and pollution, two reliable sources said, Beijing's boldest retrenchment program in almost two decades.

China's leadership, obsessed with maintaining stability and making sure redundancies do not lead to unrest, will spend nearly 150 billion yuan ($23 billion) to cover layoffs in just the coal and steel sectors in the next 2-3 years.

The overall figure is likely to rise as closures spread to other industries and even more funding will be required to handle the debt left behind by "zombie" state firms.

The term refers to companies that have shut down some of their operations but keep staff on their rolls since local governments are worried about the social and economic impact of bankruptcies and unemployment.

Shutting down "zombie firms" has been identified as one of the government's priorities this year, with China's Premier Li Keqiang promising in December that they would soon "go under the knife"..

The government plans to lay off five million workers in industries suffering from a supply glut, one source with ties to the leadership said.

A second source with leadership ties put the number of layoffs at six million. Both sources requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to media about the politically sensitive subject for fear of sparking social unrest.

The ministry of industry did not immediately respond when asked for comment on the reports.

The hugely inefficient state sector employed around 37 million people in 2013 and accounts for about 40 percent of the country's industrial output and nearly half of its bank lending.

It is China's most significant nationwide retrenchment since the restructuring of state-owned enterprises from 1998 to 2003 led to around 28 million redundancies and cost the central government about 73.1 billion yuan ($11.2 billion) in resettlement funds.

On Monday, Yin Weimin, the minister for human resources and social security, said China expects to lay off 1.8 million workers in the coal and steel industries, but he did not give a timeframe.

China aims to cut capacity gluts in as many as seven sectors, including cement, glassmaking and shipbuilding, but the oversupplied solar power industry is likely to be spared any large-scale restructuring because it still has growth potential, the first source said.

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The government has already drawn up plans to cut as much as 150 million tonnes of crude steel capacity and 500 million tonnes of surplus coal production in the next three to five years.

It has earmarked 100 billion yuan in central government funds to deal directly with the layoffs from steel and coal over the next two years, vice-industry minister Feng Fei said last week.

The Ministry of Finance said in January it would also collect 46 billion yuan from surcharges on coal-fired power over the coming three years in order to resettle workers. In addition, an assortment of local government matching funds will also be made available.

However, the funds currently being offered will do little to resolve the problems of debts held by zombie firms, which could overwhelm local banks if they are not handled correctly.

"They have proposed this dedicated fund only to pay the workers, but there is no money for the bad debts, and if the bad debts are too big the banks will have problems and there will be panic," said Xu Zhongbo, head of Beijing Metal Consulting, who advises Chinese steel mills.

Factories shut down would have to repay bank loans to avoid saddling state banks with a mountain of non-performing loans, the sources said. "Triangular debt", or money owed by firms to other enterprises, would also have to be resolved, they added.

Although China has promised to help local banks transfer the bad debts of zombie steel mills to asset management firms, local governments are not expected to gain access to the worker lay-off funds until the zombie firms have actually been shut down and debt issues settled.

($1 = 6.5476 Chinese yuan)
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china ... SKCN0W33DS

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Re: China laying off 5-6 MILLION workers, earmark $23 billion

Postby Basra- » Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:59 am

:o that is a lot of people. But good thing about China is--the government controls everything. These layed off Chinese will be getting unemployment money or welfare money. its all good. a dictator government comes handy. ALl the money china were making all the years will support this---it balances out really. USA is looking good. :up:

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Re: China laying off 5-6 MILLION workers, earmark $23 billion

Postby gurey25 » Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:27 am

long overdue,
the steel plants are ancient with 1930's technology , they should have shut them down in the 80's and 90's,
china already has the latest steel technology.
The coal industry is also ancient and polluting,
china is building more nuclear plants and gas from russia will provide clean fuel,
as soon as they come online they will shut down more coal fired plants.

if things work out as planned, by 2030 beijing will have better air quality than London, or newyork or Tokyo.
till then they have to put up with the smog.

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Re: China laying off 5-6 MILLION workers, earmark $23 billion

Postby GalliumerianSlayer » Sun Oct 30, 2016 12:08 pm

long overdue,
the steel plants are ancient with 1930's technology , they should have shut them down in the 80's and 90's,
china already has the latest steel technology.
The coal industry is also ancient and polluting,
china is building more nuclear plants and gas from russia will provide clean fuel,
as soon as they come online they will shut down more coal fired plants.

if things work out as planned, by 2030 beijing will have better air quality than London, or newyork or Tokyo.
till then they have to put up with the smog.
Chinese would have dominated the world had the Europeans/Japanese did not meddle with their lands (blame the later Qing incompetent failures aswell).

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Re: China laying off 5-6 MILLION workers, earmark $23 billion

Postby Basra- » Sun Oct 30, 2016 1:54 pm

Its interesting the cuts are not blamed on down turn economy but a [b]
"curb industrial overcapacity and pollution, two reliable sources said, Beijing's boldest retrenchment program in almost two decades."
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I mean, they should have just come out and said---we cutting of jobs due to down town in economy, but the bright side is---by cutting down jobs---we wont have a lot of emission of pollution. State will be closing all sites that emit pollution! lol

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Postby gurey25 » Mon Oct 31, 2016 5:22 am

Chinese would have dominated the world had the Europeans/Japanese did not meddle with their lands (blame the later Qing incompetent failures aswell).
The chinese have a different mindset to Europeans.
They see themselves as Ching Kuo the middle kingdom.
They were economically self sufficient and did not need imports, but the rest of the world badly wanted their products.
Till the 1830's China was a giant vacume sucking inwards the worlds silver and gold, till they lost control over their own trading ports
in wars with technologically superior europeans.

The problem with china was stability, stability has its advatages you get a prosperous economy, peace
but there is no incentive or drive to keep moving forwards.

The Europeans only real advantage was hundreds of years of near constant war, were they perfected the art of war.
Everyone else stood still.

The qing beacme incompetent failures late in their reign,
early on they were vigorous and actually added to chinese territory, they conquered land and defeated several nations
including europeans.

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Re: China laying off 5-6 MILLION workers, earmark $23 billion

Postby LiquidHYDROGEN » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:02 am

I wish we could have some of that "industrial overcapacity". Somalis are industrial bakhti.


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