HABR MAQDI - HABAR MAQDR - AHMED GURAY AND THE CONQUEST OF ABYSSINIA.

[RoobleAlWaliid]

AGENT447 iska daa sxbow. Allah swt knows what's true and what not and Habr Makdr has been added to the book.

[JSL3000]

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are you rooble guardian I know him before I met you so stay out my way.

[RoobleAlWaliid]

Husain Musa Bin 'Abd Allah Makida

One can't say Bin AbdAllah Magaadle, totally out of place and not a clan. Plus Magaadle is a other clan in itself. Plus an i lol Magiidle?

Nonsense


Husain Musa Bin 'Abd Allah Makidor!!

[JSL3000]

I'm just laughing because I never heard of a makidor in history if your tribe was really part of jihad I think they would've been mentioned a long time ago just give up man its too late to change history.

One for all, all for one, makidor musketeers!

OK I'm done had get good laugh out.

[RoobleAlWaliid]

LOL Keep propagating lies with a wrong translation. I have enough to back me up. Of course after the Adal wars the Gadabursi clan was erected.

This is a no brainer.


Pankhurst who has studied the clans from at a better level, once he compared it to the Magaadle it is obvious which one has won over the book. If one knows the Habar Makdr then the claim of the Habr Magaadle fades away as you have seen in this thread.

You damn right it's too late to change the Futuh Al Habashi : Conquest Of Abyssinia book.

[samaalenoble]

For clarity's sake:

1. Habr Magaadle are mentioned separately from Habr Maqdi in one translation.

2. a Qaf can be a 'g' in some Arabic dialects/regions and it is common but a missing "lam" can't be excused.

3. Makadoor translates to - Makka/door - "He who chose Mecca". It can be argued that this clan were the first Somalis/HOAs to become Muslim. They were already fighting Habeshas well before the Adal wars.

5. As of now, evidence still points mostly to Ahmed Gurey being a Samaroon/Makadoor/Mahad Case/Abrayn even without this annotation.

6. The Kacaan bs has long been throughly debunked.

7. It can be argued that it was a set of political wars/conquests not religious wars.

[jalaaludin5]

So where did the story of 'Habar magaadle in the jihad' came from?


If we weren't in it, it didn't happen nor was it jihad. lol
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[AGENT447]

So where did the story of 'Habar magaadle in the jihad' came from?


If we weren't in it, it didn't happen nor was it jihad. lol
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Shalad baratee waala shubi jiray lol. You guys got your Mujahidnimo stripes and credentials on fellow skinies but we earned ours sided boqol oo sano ka hor and guess on who dee, unlike u anaku xabashida jihaadkooda ayaan kusoo shaac baxnay

[AGENT447]

For clarity's sake:

1. Habr Magaadle are mentioned separately from Habr Maqdi in one translation.

2. a Qaf can be a 'g' in some Arabic dialects/regions and it is common but a missing "lam" can't be excused.

3. Makadoor translates to - Makka/door - "He who chose Mecca". It can be argued that this clan were the first Somalis/HOAs to become Muslim. They were already fighting Habeshas well before the Adal wars.

5. As of now, evidence still points mostly to Ahmed Gurey being a Samaroon/Makadoor/Mahad Case/Abrayn even without this annotation.

6. The Kacaan bs has long been throughly debunked.

7. It can be argued that it was a set of political wars/conquests not religious wars.

I am learning brilliant summation

[samaalenoble]

For clarity's sake:

1. Habr Magaadle are mentioned separately from Habr Maqdi in one translation.

2. a Qaf can be a 'g' in some Arabic dialects/regions and it is common but a missing "lam" can't be excused.

3. Makadoor translates to - Makka/door - "He who chose Mecca". It can be argued that this clan were the first Somalis/HOAs to become Muslim. They were already fighting Habeshas well before the Adal wars.

5. As of now, evidence still points mostly to Ahmed Gurey being a Samaroon/Makadoor/Mahad Case/Abrayn even without this annotation.

6. The Kacaan bs has long been throughly debunked.

7. It can be argued that it was a set of political wars/conquests not religious wars.

I am learning brilliant summation

Thanks.

You'll also find that Richard F. Burton deeply hated, in particular, all of the clans that took part in the futuh.

Oh and also, if anybody tells you he was an Arab, let them know that even the Portuguese thought he was a Somali. No one even contemplated his ethnicity.

[jalaaludin5]

So where did the story of 'Habar magaadle in the jihad' came from?


If we weren't in it, it didn't happen nor was it jihad. lol
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Shalad baratee waala shubi jiray lol. You guys got your Mujahidnimo stripes and credentials on fellow skinies but we earned ours sided boqol oo sano ka hor and guess on who dee, unlike u anaku xabashida jihaadkooda ayaan kusoo shaac baxnay

Don't you dare diminish our holy jihad waryaa

Besides, ahmed gurey was a moryaan of the ottoman empire and a terririst who burned and looted churches, massacring women and children of the book

But seriously, how wise of you guys to discuss the Ahmed Gurey war and habashi when they own your ass today. Don't you guys know that ethiopians are raised with stories of (
Not 77 but) Ahmed Gurey and his crimes against ethiopia? Gabre is the conquering lion of all geeljire, and as they say...payback is a bitch

Ps...what's the point of discussing the sandals ahmed gurey looted from ethiopian churchers centuries ago, when somali are the shoe carriers of ethiopia, TODAY.
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[Adler]

Thank you Agent, definitely worth reading

The last piece to the puzzle.


Pay attention to Husain Musa Bin 'Abd Allah Makida, a stripe below the k meaning a strong K.

He is of the tribe of Ahmed Girri. So he is of the Habar Maqdi(as written in the book), but a Makida alone has been written now.

This time a K has been added instead of a Q , strengthening the claim to Makadur.

This time even a i has been added to the word which nullifies the other claims to it and strengthens the Makidoor/Makidor/Makadur claim. You can't say Magida or Magidle, but Makidor has always been used.

A Isaaq of the Habar Magaadle can't say I'm AbdAllah of Magaadle , because Magaadle in itself is a whole different clan.

But just like the (Habr) Garhajis the (Habr) Makidor practice the same culture of occasionally removing the Habar pre-fix.

Husain Musa Bin 'Abd Allah Makidor.

We already discussed that the ya written in Arabic could've actually been an raa.

I can even connect Husain Musa Bin AbdAllah to the abtirsi.

Amazing regarding Husain Musa Bin Abdallah, my abtirsi ends in Sahel-Musa-Abdalle-Makahil-Makadoor-Samaroon-Sicid. Could he have been a brother of Sahel?

[RoobleAlWaliid]

Amazing regarding Husain Musa Bin Abdallah, my abtirsi ends in Sahel-Musa-Abdalle-Makahil-Makadoor-Samaroon-Sicid. Could he have been a brother of Sahel?

You should feel blessed my brother. You're more related to Husain Musa Bin 'Abd Allah Makida(r) himself than me. I am Bin Musa Makida

"Their achievements this day truly are God's doing."

[Adali]

Does it matter who Ahmed Guray was ? Harar belongs to Habesha now. Somalis are archaic as ever, when does this change I wonder.

[Rambie]

Interesting ... Rooble do you mind to share your sources, i'll check em.

BTW in the classical Arabic it was not written as Habar Maqdi but Habar Maqda/Habar Moqda هبر مقدى without the ي or i

https://archive.org/stream/futalabashah ... 6/mode/2up

But on the rest I have no knowledge of it and always though هبر مقدى are Habar Magaadle.