Why are there so many Indian CEOs/Engineers for top firms?

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

I like to follow business, finance and tech news and one thing I have noticed is that all of the major technology, software and financial firms have indian ceos and directors. Why is that, and what can Somalis learn from them? I may be due to the fact that indians are very educationally orientated and academicallly driven people. In my town, most of the GPs and dentists are South Asian.

I have yet to see a Somali doctor in city with thousands of Somalis - that's very sad. I also noticed South Asians take their kids to activities such as computer clubs, chess clubs and sports clubs to help stimulate the body and mind. Somali parents largely leave their kids to their own devices and spend as litle time as possible with them. We also have a very lazy, do as little as possible to barely get by mentality which probably comes from our geeljire/nomadic past.

I live in an ethnically mixed neighbourhood and I never see South Asians kids standing around. They are all either in work, school or university/college. I see plenty of Somali/arab youths laying about doing nothing. Somali youths are also over-represented in prisons/mental institutes. How can we combat this loser, low achieving mentality that has taken hold of us?

[MayDay777]

Humans excel when under pressure. Indians are extremely strict on their kids.

I went to school with Indians. Their life was sad. They weren't given lunch money if they performed less than what was expected and their parents always expect high grades!!

Somali mamas won't ever do this because they are over protective. especially when it comes to boys. It was very hard to find a girl failing except for the few dumb ones while Somali boys made the majority on the bottom of the list. The dumbest kid in every class of that school was 90% of the time a Somali boy even though Somali population of the school was 1/2 that of Indians

[JSL3000]

Asians are talking over the white people's role surpassing them income and education they will become the new global leaders it's all about competition.

Only arabs in gulf states have money and can afford engineers from across the world but unfortunately africans will come last good thing they have the best land where the resources are maybe that will save them in the end.

[thehappyone]

I have yet to see a Somali doctor in city with thousands of Somalis - that's very sad.

That is bogus. In my town, Somalis are outdoing everyone else. You'll only find Somalis from a guy or a lady who came here 5 years ago but turns out to be a millionaire. I am not one of the millionaires and ask them how they do it. One guy told me happy we take risks and you don't want to do it. Bottom line, Somalis are born risk takers and some of them turn that into a fortune.

Given the circumstances, Somalis are outdoing others. Just look at the businesses and education fields. Somalis are very much present in every field.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

@THO. That might be the case where you live but in the UK, Somali males come at the bottom of the socio-economic totem pole. They are also heavily involved with crime and terrorism. In Canada, Somali youths are dropping like flies over gang-violence and I have heard very bad things about Minneapolis/Ohio. The only place Somalis are succeeding is in Africa and the Middle-east/Asia. Why is that? Maybe Somalis do better in countries with little to no social welfare.

[Tuushi]

Indians and all other Asians invest in their children. The expectations and demands placed on them are amazing.

Somali parents are great at being hard on their girls mostly. Not realizing both genders need the push.

Asians parents set the standards very high at early age. U r either gonna be a doctor or an engineer. Everything else comes valued less.

They are also much more likely to be educated themselves. How can a Somali parent be on the same page when they are less likely to even read/speak English. There is a chance the kids are translating for them.

In a Somali household; the couple plays a team? Do they raise the kids together?

It is a vicious cycle. I hope we break it.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Thank you tuushi for your contribution. I have highlighted the big problem with psrents whi don't have an education themselves. Alxamdulillah both my parents spoke english ehen they entered the UK. But I have seen so many families where the mother or father is unable to attend parents' evening or help with homework because they don't speak the language. But there are adult learning courses and ESL classes available for free to these people. I have seen a woman who has lived in the UK for over 30 years and barely speaks a few words of english.

[Tuushi]

My pleasure.

Which begs the question, if they dont have the drive and the ambition to learn and improve their lives for themselves, is there the drive to do things with the kids on the long haul?

Our only hope is the new generation. May the become more involved parents. We do have some for sure and they are more likely to be educated.

[thehappyone]

Tuushi I have a feeling your kids would become geniuses, you need to start popping them out

[AwRastaale]

Actually Indian CEOs and engineers are minority.

You can't compare almost 2 billion Indians to barely 15 million Somalis.

Indians perform poor per capita.

The Chinese have far more CEOs and engineers. Indians have more programmers/IT compared to Chinese but still Chinese coders are superior.

In engineering, Indians struggle to build sewages back in India while China has some of the world's largest ground breaking engineering projects.

India's biggest engineering project is only $2b compared to China's $22b



Most Indians are hired because they are submissive, loyal and take orders well where as Chinese believe working for their own.

As for medical docs, when it comes to that sub-Indian region, Sri Lankans dominate.

Bad example.

Somalis should learn from the Japanese, Koreans or Taiwanese but Indians can't even upgrade the British colonial railway.

[Adali]

I like to follow business, finance and tech news and one thing I have noticed is that all of the major technology, software and financial firms have indian ceos and directors. Why is that, and what can Somalis learn from them? I may be due to the fact that indians are very educationally orientated and academicallly driven people. In my town, most of the GPs and dentists are South Asian.

I have yet to see a Somali doctor in city with thousands of Somalis - that's very sad. I also noticed South Asians take their kids to activities such as computer clubs, chess clubs and sports clubs to help stimulate the body and mind. Somali parents largely leave their kids to their own devices and spend as litle time as possible with them. We also have a very lazy, do as little as possible to barely get by mentality which probably comes from our geeljire/nomadic past.

I live in an ethnically mixed neighbourhood and I never see South Asians kids standing around. They are all either in work, school or university/college. I see plenty of Somali/arab youths laying about doing nothing. Somali youths are also over-represented in prisons/mental institutes. How can we combat this loser, low achieving mentality that has taken hold of us?

Looking towards other communities and putting them on a pedestal is one way you can disparage somalis, another way is pointing out all the negatives without a single positive.

I know of numerous somali after school activity centers that focuses primarily on sports(football) and tutoring(A-levels and GCSE).

Also South Asians means PAkis, go to midlands or up north and you will see ghettos, you will see gangs, you will see plenty of drug dealers, roadman and addicts coming from this group.

For some reason pakis in London are pussies, they get bullied throughout highschool and can never be seen in the football pitches or playgrounds, they locked inside.

Most of the pakis who succeed I have seen were women, and their women constantly help their men get ahead, there is alot of corruption, in my company there was so much corruption that we had several high managers who were pakis due to the fact that they had backing from a bitch who was married to one of the directors, she not only helped her little bro, but his friend, and so it continued.

They are very tribalistic, whereas somalis who do well in the corporate will avoid each other, because they are afraid of something, I don't know exactly what it is, maybe they have your mentality of thinking fellow somalis are not up to par with them.

[theyuusuf143]

Liquid is the worst kind of Somali i ever seen. Phuking slef hater stupid.

[FAH1223]

Chinese and Indians are everywhere

Indians have multiple generations here now so they're in every field. Not only medicine and business

[Tuushi]

Chinese and Indians are everywhere

Indians have multiple generations here now so they're in every field. Not only medicine and business

Lets go with an example close to home. Kenya. I dont think literacy levels between the two countries are huge.

[gurey25]

India has a middle class of around 200 million out of 1100million.
and about 60 million people with the lifestyle of developed countries.
The literacy rate is still less than 50%.
still this means they have a pool of 500 million to draw from.

this also means that in india more than half the population have living standards worse than the poorest in somalia and africa.

When i lived in lagos nigeria, i worked with a guy that grew up in poverty and worked his way up.
He lived in slums and was dirt poor, he was working in india and found that indias poor are far worse off than he ever experienced.

India is one hell of a shithole..

drop an indian slum dweller in goma, congo and the some desert in mali and he will think he died and went to heaven,
all those resources,and food...