Something I have observed about self haters.

[GalliumerianSlayer]

How can Somali youth in the West develop a strong Somali identity when we have xoolo in our midst who keep causing disunity and division amongst us western Somalis? Qabyaalad should not be a factor here in the West since we're all pretty much in the same boat. It's a tragedy that we have kids who never even experienced the war who carry hate for other Somalis based on what tribe they're from.

Somali Youths were pretty good in the west, before the civil war kids popped up and embraced gang culture
Eastern Somali community (including Middle east) > Western Somali community

[TheblueNwhite]

Take your holier than thou bs to Las Qorey.

[Raganimo]

People don't know how to separate ethnicity from nationality. So because I despise the current leadership of Somalia and see no point in waiting for the people who support them to get their crap together, that makes me a tribalist? I don't believe that my tribe is superior to any other tribe. In fact, let me break this to you: qabiil is all made-up bullshit. Somalis are the same people.

Learn the difference between national politics and ethnic identity.

[Raganimo]

Take your holier than thou bs to Las Qorey.

But I'm not even from LQ

[TheblueNwhite]

The Hawiyes been fighting for decades and now that they've stopped killing each other off.
These people live on a different planet than the rest of us. You can't share a country with people who are this destructive and short-sighted. Wallahi as much as Isaaqs can be obnoxious and extremely tribalistic, I don't see them destroying their own country like this. They are politically way more savvy than these people and understand the importance of long-term planning and the common good. These concepts are completely foreign to Hawiye.

You insult an entire clan and you have the gull to pretend you are talking About SFG. Mind you SFG is comprised of 4.5.

Hawiye fought each like every other clan in Somalia. Yet, you tag them to be savages and belonging to another planet.

Mr. High n Mighty, you can shove your bs to you know where. I actually thought you were reasonable and objective when it comes to clan affairs but you shot yourself in foot. Snake in the grass.

[Raganimo]

The Hawiyes been fighting for decades and now that they've stopped killing each other off.
These people live on a different planet than the rest of us. You can't share a country with people who are this destructive and short-sighted. Wallahi as much as Isaaqs can be obnoxious and extremely tribalistic, I don't see them destroying their own country like this. They are politically way more savvy than these people and understand the importance of long-term planning and the common good. These concepts are completely foreign to Hawiye.

You insult an entire clan and you have the gull to pretend you are talking About SFG. Mind you SFG is comprised of 4.5.

Hawiye fought each like every other clan in Somalia. Yet, you tag them to be savages and belonging to another planet.

Mr. High n Mighty, you can shove your bs to you know where. I actually thought you were reasonable and objective when it comes to clan affairs but you shot yourself in foot. Snake in the grass.

Keep crying. What I said is mild compared to what others have said about me and my tribe. You dig up some crap I said in a heated moment and use it to assassinate my character, when this thread was never about me in the first place. I'm not on trial here so kindly go cry somewhere else, you inferiority complex-ridden buffoon.

[TheblueNwhite]

Oh I was attacked, oh, I was joking. Rah rah.

You can always make a tuna sandwich before you cry yourself to sleep Mr. Xingalool.

[TheMightyNomad]

I apologize in advance for this essay

I grew up around non-Somalis as I was born and raised in a foreign country. When I came to Europe, i naturally gravitated towards non-Somalis since my Somali was terrible and most of the Somalis were recent arrivals from Mogadishu. The fact that they spoke with a southern dialect made it even worse. I remember there was this kid who said to me "aboowe barooni ma dheelee". When he saw that I was blank he said "barooni ma kasee" and I literally thought he was speaking a foreign language since we say "kubad ma ila ciyaareysaa?"

I never really associated with Somalis in my youth and most of the Somalis in my city thought that I was habashi. Most of them came as qaxooti so they were very different culturally from my family. Plus they generally had a bad reputation so I used to be embarrassed to be associated with them. It's a shameful fact but this is the truth. These niggas even used to get punked by dhegacas of all people

The fact that my father had left Sanaag when he was a kid didn't exactly help either.

This was in my youth. As I became older, I began to understand the importance of being around your own and accepting your people for better or worse. I put a strong emphasis on learning the language, the history, heck I even went hardcore into qabiil history

My point is, for many people it's just ignorance and the fact that, for whatever reason, they never really were around strong, positive, ambitious Somalis so they grew up thinking they were special snowflakes. Notice how most of the self-hating Somalis will tell you that their family is the exception to the rule that all Somalis are bad.

There are kids out there who internalise the negative stereotypes about Somalis and you can't really blame them in most cases.

I remember there was this Somali model in my city who used to only be around white people. Her boyfriend was white, she was plastered all over the city.. very good-looking too. My brother met her by accident at a supermarket and she started to talk to him when she recognized him as Somali. Mind you, he was a lot younger than her and she had no sexual desire for him. She kept asking him about how she could get in touch with the somali community, she wanted to go to weddings etc.. the girl was totally isolated from the community and didn't even speak the language but she desperately wanted to connect with us. Shit was sad. Imagine how she grew up. Probably in some village, surrounded by nothing but whites. Felt inadequate because she didn't really fit in with them so she probably did some research on somali culture and wanted to establish a connection. She was simply a product of her environment.

You never feel truly complete as a human beings until you accept and love your own blood, your own background. This is why I'm big on instilling a strong sense of identity in our youth as I myself have been through the confusion of growing up a stranger, moving from country to country and not truly feeling at home anywhere. It taught me a lot, but it would've benefited me a lot more to avoid going through that phase and having to figure this shit out by myself.

Brothers, it's especially us men who need to lead the way wallahi. Women can say what they want, but at the end of the day they look towards us for guidance and direction. Many of us are failing our communities.

Well said. Thank you for sharing this post walaal.

I know for a fact that many people can relate to this .

[Raganimo]

Oh I was attacked, oh, I was joking. Rah rah.

You can always make a tuna sandwich before you cry yourself to sleep Mr. Xingalool.

Omg, he joked about my tribe.. let me go cry about it. I'll dig up some of his old posts to establish a case against him in the court of somnet

[TheMightyNomad]

Ive had a conciousness shift.I disagree with labelling people as pejorative ''Self haters''. By doing so we make them such and they will begin to internalize it. By villanizing people we create hostility and further rejection.

We need to convert these people and encourage love within themselves.

[TheblueNwhite]

You judge Somalis, making thread after thread. The voices from Dhahar told you that you have a free ticket to label Somalis as degenetares, low lives, and what have you. Exactly who made you the judge on what ppl do on social media? Are you paying their rent?

How does it feel to be judged?

Now, go ahead and eat that sandwich before the stray cat snatches it from you.

[Raganimo]

You judge Somalis, making thread after thread. The voices from Dhahar told you that you have a free ticket to label Somalis as degenetares, low lives, and what have you. Exactly who made you the judge on what ppl do on social media? Are you paying their rent?

How does it feel to be judged?

Now, go ahead and eat that sandwich before the stray cat snatches it from you.

I made one thread about atheists, gays and woman-haters from a specific forum. If you want to stick up for them, feel free to respond in the relevant thread instead of following me around and puking all over the forum. You're clearly obsessed. Get a life.

[Raganimo]

How does it feel to be judged

I actually feel honored that my posts have made such a huge psychological impact on you lol. You literally went through my posts one by one, analysed them and then made an actual case against me as if we were in a courtroom

[TheblueNwhite]

Lol! There you go again. You got superiority complex and a magnanimous ego.

I'm just shedding a light on your character. You are an insecure poser.

I'm out. Peace.

[TheMightyNomad]

You judge Somalis, making thread after thread. The voices from Dhahar told you that you have a free ticket to label Somalis as degenetares, low lives, and what have you. Exactly who made you the judge on what ppl do on social media? Are you paying their rent?

How does it feel to be judged?

Now, go ahead and eat that sandwich before the stray cat snatches it from you.

Many people here and elsewhere are fustrated by the current circumstances that face Somali people. They have every right to be as a member of the community.

Sure their responses to it and how the channel that frustation might be misguided from time to time, but there is no ill intent behind it. You can tell people really do want the best for their fellow kinsmen and you can tell that Raganimo really doesn't think badly of his own, by that fact that he cares deeply for his fellow Somalis enough to voice it. Enough to be aggitated by it.

So lets stop finger pointing at one another and try to understand one another. Understand others as well as ourselves. Learn to correct eachother and oneself in a constructive manner.