Turkey and Iran reaching deal to end Syrian war

[FAH1223]

[Khalid Ali]

impossible turkey just wants the attention of the west turkey economic its interest is connected with the west besides the syrian conflicts has more hands to it than the iranians andn the syrians it is funny inay carabi jabtay turki iyo iraan ba u tashanaya carab. shame on u arabs.


russia and saudi arabia agreeing would be more interesting or the united states and Russia.

what is the agreement about asad is not gonna leave any time soon.so what is the deal about

[Machiavelli2]

impossible turkey just wants the attention of the west turkey economic its interest is connected with the west besides the syrian conflicts has more hands to it than the iranians andn the syrians it is funny inay carabi jabtay turki iyo iraan ba u tashanaya carab. shame on u arabs.


russia and saudi arabia agreeing would be more interesting or the united states and Russia.

what is the agreement about asad is not gonna leave any time soon.so what is the deal about

Ina Adeer, the deal is to extinguish the aspiration of the Kurdish people to establish Kurdistan comprising of regions in Iran, Turkey, Syria and Iraq. Since the last two are incapable of resisting and defeating the Kurds and the Kurds are seen to be supported by the Americans, therefore it is a normal progression that Iran and Turkey cooperate against the Kurds aspiration of Kurdistan. Russia, Turkey and Iran on one side and on the other, you will have the Gulf Arab countries, USA and Israel. This destruction of Syria has opened up old hatreds and grudges and is beyond the schism of sectarianism.

[TJcombo]

impossible turkey just wants the attention of the west turkey economic its interest is connected with the west besides the syrian conflicts has more hands to it than the iranians andn the syrians it is funny inay carabi jabtay turki iyo iraan ba u tashanaya carab. shame on u arabs.


russia and saudi arabia agreeing would be more interesting or the united states and Russia.

what is the agreement about asad is not gonna leave any time soon.so what is the deal about

Stop kissing Nato and Arab ass for a second and get your brains in order. Arabs have been useless in world Politics since the Turks entered the Middle East nearly a Thausand years ago and now that their Nato Western sugar daddies are in decline they'll go back to their former status. Remember the rulers of Iran are also Turkic descendants except they're Shia

Erdogan made peace with the Eastern powers and good for him as now he will get his piece of the Arab Pie. Arabs and Sunnis in general kiss Nato ass only for Nato to stab them in the back. Just look at the long list of Sunni countries Nato fukked over. Egypt and Turkey are the only survivors and they're both now allied with Russia. Erdogan played games with the West and they tried to pull a coup on him. I'm glad he learned his lesson and hopefully now Turkey can be a Superpower in Eurasia as it controls vital trade routes.

Sultan Erdogan on your pivot East

[gurey25]

Its the kurds, they are an existential threat to Turkey.'
Both the chp and ak parties are united , defying Nato and risking economic disaster is worth it, if you can prevent Kurdistan,'and what do the americans do? court the kurds? the dumbest decision ever..'

Turkey will always be a willing servant and suffer anything to please its master the US.
but if you threaten its very existance with the Kurds, they can do and will do anything.
its not just erdogan, they are all united on this.


and in the middle of this comes Putin, facilitating things as always.

Its interesting how Putin holds all the cards in the Middle east.
The Isrealis are confident that he will take care of their interests, they hedged their bets with the syria fiasco,
if it woorked to plan, you will have a somalia in syria, with dozens of statelets and continued civil war indefinetley, allowing isreal to develop the oil and gas fields in the golan and annex the bordering houran region full of assimilatable druze, some of the best farmland in syria and even larger oil and gas fields than the golan.
If the plan goes belly up, Russia will gaurentee things dont go out of control, all they have to do is "stay away from Hezbollah"
and ditch the Lebanon invasion plan.

The Iranians now trust and rely on Russia for its security, Russia help axe the sanctions.
The Turks see Russia as the only reliable partner.

and even the saudis are now hedging their bets and negotiating.

[TJcombo]

Turkey making peace with Russia is going to be huge for the Turkish economy as now the Caspian Oil Pipelines will now run through Turkey and enter Greece to mainland Europe. Since the West already burned down Ukraine and that Oil Pipeline is shut down Russia needs the Turkey route to enter Europe. This was one of the things Putin gave to Erdogan in that meeting in Moscow. It looks like now Erdogan is getting even bigger concessions from Russia with this deal. Good for Erdogan

The whole Syria war was about the West and the Arabs trying to cut out Putin and Russias monopoly on European Energy by running a pipeline through Syria that entered Turkey and the Europe. One problem though and that is that Putin is not an idiot like Yeltsin or a traitor Gorbochev and shut down that Western and Arab plan to put Russia out of business by backing Assad to the end and then intervening as Russias economic future lies in Nato and the Arabs not running that pipeline through Syria.

It's always a game of survival in Eurasia and Putin is a master player

[AbdiWahab252]

As usual, the Sunnis come out losing.

[Kudo]

As usual, the Sunnis come out losing.

They refuse to learn from history and adapt to circumstances. Sunnis in this conflict are being used to destroy their own future in Syria.

[gurey25]

As usual, the Sunnis come out losing.

The Turks are winning.
For once there is a Sunni player in the game not just a pawn.

Erdogan was screaming for a no flyzone, serious NATO action but they chickened out and then tried to use turkey as a sacrificial lamb.
Erdogan decided to protect Turkish interests after the West pussies out. Coup failed.
All they can do now to Erdogan and Turkey is to make angry faces at them.

Lool.

And TJcombo the Balkan pipeline is not that important for Russia, they plan for most exports to go through the northern Baltic line towards Germany their main customer.

The Balkan line is needed to hedge against Ukrainian instability and entice Bulgaria,Greece, Hungary and Italy plus turkey with win win deals.

Now turkey will get the $300 million transit fees and discounts for purchases. Poor slaves like Bulgaria and Greece were ordered not to take the deal.
Serves them right.

[TJcombo]

That's what happens when you play games with the West and Nato you get screwed over every time. The funniest thing is Turkey and Greece are going to come out as the winners as the West had tried to bury those two states.

Turkey is in a better position to benefit though because they have great leadership and economy while Greece is a walking zombie because it's basically the worst run country outside of Somalia with corrupt leaders and citizens who don't want to pay taxes or work. They'd rather the EU keep giving them caydh than stand up am be counted.

The other thing that's gonna be effected is the Gulf Arabs since they made aa huge mistake trying to screw over Putin for the benefit of their Western masters. It will be interesting to see where the Arabs go from here but they backed themselves into this corner themselves. if things keep going this way your gonna see Gulf States start falling and Saudi Arabia is probably gonna go next.

The idiot Saudis have depleted all their foriegn reserve stocks of currency in their bid to screw over Russia and drive Oil to $10 a barrel. Now their economy is in dire straights and they're not even paying Oil worker salaries. The Saudi Royal Donkeys are gonna go belly up imo and that'sthe next Card to fall

This would be great news as the Saudis are the biggest financiers of Khawarij scum worldwide through their Wahabi and Salafi funding but the damage has been done to the sunni world already. Most of the sunniworld is burning as they've embraced this Saudi extreme culture.

Turkey is our only hope and i hope they prosper and become a big player once again as they used to be before the Arabs stabbed them in the back in WW1. Long live Turkiye

[SANDIEGUY]

That's what happens when you play games with the West and Nato you get screwed over every time. The funniest thing is Turkey and Greece are going to come out as the winners as the West had tried to bury those two states.

Turkey is in a better position to benefit though because they have great leadership and economy while Greece is a walking zombie because it's basically the worst run country outside of Somalia with corrupt leaders and citizens who don't want to pay taxes or work. They'd rather the EU keep giving them caydh than stand up am be counted.

The other thing that's gonna be effected is the Gulf Arabs since they made aa huge mistake trying to screw over Putin for the benefit of their Western masters. It will be interesting to see where the Arabs go from here but they backed themselves into this corner themselves. if things keep going this way your gonna see Gulf States start falling and Saudi Arabia is probably gonna go next.

The idiot Saudis have depleted all their foriegn reserve stocks of currency in their bid to screw over Russia and drive Oil to $10 a barrel. Now their economy is in dire straights and they're not even paying Oil worker salaries. The Saudi Royal Donkeys are gonna go belly up imo and that'sthe next Card to fall

This would be great news as the Saudis are the biggest financiers of Khawarij scum worldwide through their Wahabi and Salafi funding but the damage has been done to the sunni world already. Most of the sunniworld is burning as they've embraced this Saudi extreme culture.

Turkey is our only hope and i hope they prosper and become a big player once again as they used to be before the Arabs stabbed them in the back in WW1. Long live Turkiye

Refresh my memory, is Turkey still a member of NATO?

[original dervish]

Turkey is a thoroughly infiltrated country......don't forget the coup was launched and planned from an American airbase in Turkey.
All these pathetic Muslim countries have made deals with the devil/US.....they can't escape so easily.
Turkey is not a reliable ally.

[gurey25]

Turkey is a thoroughly infiltrated country......don't forget the coup was launched and planned from an American airbase in Turkey.
All these pathetic Muslim countries have made deals with the devil/US.....they can't escape so easily.
Turkey is not a reliable ally.

but the US has no one left inside Turkey to influence.
There are secularists in the army that absolutley hate erdogan, and would love to get rid of him.
but they agree 100% with him on foreign policy.
taking US orders today means the death of Turkey tommorow.

The US should learn how to offer mutually benefitial deals, not give commands that greatly harm their vassals.
If you keep doing this your vassals will rebel and look for new patrons.

[Machiavelli2]

gurey

Ina Adeer, the United States had either found the Kurds to be a more trustworthy ally than the Arabs and the Turks and it's intention is to support the Kurds achieve their hankering for Kurdistan. Or, they are designing by stealth the next major conflict (after the demise of ISIS) in the region and the flow of the sales of arms by the American Military Industrial Complex. The engine of the Turkish economy is fuelled by the investments of the West and in particular by the E.U countries and that is the leverage they hold over the Turks. One of the major Daily Newspapers in Turkey Huriyat recently published that " 85 percent of Turkey’s foreign investors still from West."



"Despite increased recent attention to relations with Gulf partners such as Qatar, Turkey remains overwhelmingly dependent on Western sources for foreign direct investment (FDI), according to data from the Central Bank. Data shows that 85 percent of FDI came from the EU, other European countries, and the U.S. Only around 15 percent came from Asian sources, with Gulf countries having a share of only 7 percent of total FDI."

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/85-per ... sCatID=345

Erdogan knows his weakness and limitations. Under his leadership, a vibrant Turkish economy grew, but it is mainly reliant on Western foreign investments. Erdogan's only card are the Syrian and other refugees in Turkey. He could flood Europe with these refugees.

[original dervish]

Gurey sxb......don't be so naive as to think the US doesn't have Manchurian candidates in every strategic country.
In many cases US intelligence, in the form of educational institutions, charities and Ngos, have been cultivating and nurturing them from birth.
Mark my words....Turkey will either fall back into line or be destroyed. There is no third way.