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Im sure there traits within Sijuis too, that is revolting...so yeah such things is not exclusive to Somali from somalian only.....

TZ- Somali

Everything you wrote about somalis is 100% right!

Cawar and co are in a state of denial. There is nothing to be proud of as a somali. Everything about us stinks.

We are at the lowest strata of any measurable variable including the qualititive values.

Cawar, could you tell us anything that somalis are good at except deciet, lies, murders, tribalism, the rape of a nation, the love for power, greed, watching news, listening to romors, living off welfare, worshiping tribalism?

Globe this is where i too doubt your origins.
please let me explain where im going with this.

Every somali feels himslef to be superior to everybody else, even those born overseas and cant speak a word of somali,
thier inate sense of somaliness was enough to make them proud.

whereas you seem to be ashamed of bieng somali.


Extreme pride even arrogance is in your blood man,
even i have this feeling of pride even though i know it is illogical.

Gurey,

OK

Give me a reason why I should be proud of being somali???????


I am a somali ( I can't deny that, I was born as a somali- I couldn't do anything about that)- but

LETS LEAVE THE SPINNING


And

Be sincere


WHAT IS SO GOOD ABOUT BEING SOMALIS?????????

there is a psychological explanation and there are others.


Let me start with the psychological.

Like all pastoral people, we have developed a more or less egalitarian soceity in which most people are equal.

No clergy (until today)
No gentry

no classification of society( except for the poor midaans)

this egalitarianism and individualism creates a feeling of superiority and arogance over others in all most Pastoral societies.


The Afar think everybody is scum and they are on top,
Same with the Borana oromas, while the settled oromos like the arsi and others are peacefull and dont have the superiority complex.
The fulani and Huasa have the same attitude, the bedioun arab believes
deep inside that all other arabs should be nothing but slaves.

Gurey

Pastrolism is in our history but many of us (in our generation) have never minded a sheep let alone a camel- so we are not nomads nor egaliterian.

The fact of the matter is that we (even the educated class) intepretes ARROGANCE AS BEING THE SAME AS PRIDE.

Suffering from a superiority complex when everything tells you that you are inferior is a case of arrogance.

Our culture evolved from this pastoral setting and is still strongly influenced by it, even if we maybe in the city or a Western European nation.

But tell me what do you think would be the necessary changes in somali society.
Wahabists aside.

Gurey,
For starters we should abandon praising a redundant culture (it might have served us well if we live in a nomadic society but we live in the 21st century).

Recognize the limits of our culture
Admit its limitations
Criticize it

There were times when somalis had pride, our culture was good

But the last 20 years ou culture is one of greed, murder, tribalism, welfarism and deciet- don't you agree?

nothing wrong with greed and tribalism.
they can be used for good.

i dont see anything wrong with clanism.

Globetrotter gives the impression that he even hates his parents.

Gurey.

Clanism has killed the faith within us saxib and destroyed the whole country. Qabiil amaan ma leh runtii. It has no positive influence whatsoever in reality on us as a nation.

Gamadid,

What do you mean ???? This issue is not about parents- it is about somalis. Grow up for fuccing sake. I recall you wrote that no asharaf woman would accept me-- NEWS I am dating an old sweet-heart- an asharaf to test your theory- and guess what? She is in love and there are indications that she is your relative

Gurey, Tell us what is so good about clanism????

Globo

You are funny when you are drunk Besides, Ashraafta ku jeclaan okaa durbadiibo? It was only the day before you wrote something about an Ashraaf woman and now all of a sudden midaa ku qabatay?

PS: Asharaafta mad madoow aan ahay nooh Kuwa Sacadka la dhaho ma maqashay?

gamadid

SACAD MUUSE??? Sacad Hawiye? Asharaf Hassan or Hussein?

Sacad muuse is Idoor while Sacad madarkais is dark hawiye savages.

No, this asharaf woman is dark. She is from somaliland and she is beautiful. Her mother is from Merca .

I felt that you challenged me!

Adiga ma asharafta reer hobyo baad tahay? Aren't those shekaals?

I get confused by these tribes

Too much hate going around this place!! For the being proud of being Somali or not, I can't be proud for some thing I did not work hard for it or earn it. I just can't understand this superiorty of Somaliness. Qahooti people whom distroyed their motherland and still belittle their host countries!

TZ is 100% right about everything on that list. there is an old saying by Confucious "Three things cannot long be hidden the sun, the moon, and the truth."-