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I agree with him on 4 and 5, the rest he is an athiest and I don't take advice from an atheist on religious matters.

That would have happened if there was a real Marxist regime in Somalia after the 1969 coup. Imagine if we had a "Cultural Revolution"The proletariat must rise up and kill these bourgeois leeches in their khamees and suits. Dhamaan caaqil iyo wadaad ku sheegayaasha waa tuugo. Against the wall, the lot of them!

Do you consider the October Revolution to have been not true from its very start?That would have happened if there was a real Marxist regime in Somalia after the 1969 coup. Imagine if we had a "Cultural Revolution"The proletariat must rise up and kill these bourgeois leeches in their khamees and suits. Dhamaan caaqil iyo wadaad ku sheegayaasha waa tuugo. Against the wall, the lot of them!


That would have happened if there was a real Marxist regime in Somalia after the 1969 coup. Imagine if we had a "Cultural Revolution"The proletariat must rise up and kill these bourgeois leeches in their khamees and suits. Dhamaan caaqil iyo wadaad ku sheegayaasha waa tuugo. Against the wall, the lot of them!

A good example would be the ex-soviet Muslim republics. Very communist, no religion. Soviet Union collapses, everyone starts practising again.That would have happened if there was a real Marxist regime in Somalia after the 1969 coup. Imagine if we had a "Cultural Revolution"The proletariat must rise up and kill these bourgeois leeches in their khamees and suits. Dhamaan caaqil iyo wadaad ku sheegayaasha waa tuugo. Against the wall, the lot of them!
cultural revolutions dont work in muslim countries.
The psyche of muslims is different, a full frontal attack creates a violent response.
A counter revolution will be much stronger, if you eliminate the inneffective leadership.
With muslims you need a gradual undermining of traditional values through education and prosperity.
Tunisia is a good example, it has a secular majority.
To affect change through a cultural revolution, you would need repression on the scale that makes siad barre
look like a care bear.
"starts practicing"A good example would be the ex-soviet Muslim republics. Very communist, no religion. Soviet Union collapses, everyone starts practising again.

Yeah its a common trend i am seeing lately. I debate with these atheists often, from my debates with them i can't tell you they are truly weak minded and indoctrinated people.I am not sure if you have run across that elderly Somali man who went to the USSR or Eastern Bloc for education but returned as hardline atheist Marxists. I have stumbled across at least 5 and they hail from all parts of the country. One common thread is that they are atheist and don't believe or tolerate religion. Unfortunately, one of them is my uncle and he is a brilliant man who is a walking encyclopedia. Every Sunday, I pick him up for breakfast and when we are alone, he lets go and drops wisdom on me:
Religious knowledge is compatible with secular knowledge. There is no need to teach them seperately from one another. Thats a false dischotomy.1. On wadaads - Religious parasites who don't work for a living and made their fortune limiting access to religious knowledge. When he was a boy, his village wadad stood in opposition to secular education not for religious convictions but to ensure that the wadaad's dugsi would remain filled.
Well for Muslims spiritual well being comes before health and never is this done for capitalist reasons. Mosque's are usually built on donations.2. On mosque building campaigns - Money making rackets for the religious mafia. He says why build a masjid when you don't even a clinic for the sick.
It is obvious that he is only angry that they are building mosques to begin with and from an Atheist point of view he detest such a thing. Sad reality for him that our spiritual well-being will not take a step back to match his Godless decadency.There are various types of Muslim FBOs that are active in the context of international relief, humanitarian and development work. They have different objectives and methods of operation, and they belong to different Islamic schools of thought, but they share the basic principles of Islamic ethics. Muslim FBOs see development as both spiritual and material development. In the context of Somalia and Kenya, Muslim FBOs are involved in a wide range of development and humanitarian activities, and their fundraising is based on Islamic principles regarding endowment and charity.
But these are only some manifestations of culture. Do you think all we are left with today is the byproducts of culture, only music or only dance, while having no deep memory of the core cultural system.3. On the societal pressure to curb traditional culture - He explained the reason why many songs and dances are in steep decline was due to the religious mafia. He doesn't see why young people can not dance and enjoy their or sing songs. Neither does he see why women have to wear tents and ninja outfits when it is obviously an Arab custom.
Traditional leaders are far from being parasites nor are they beggars, they play a role of keeping the peace between the clans.4. On tribal leadership - He refers to traditional leaders like Ugaases as societal parasites who live off the sweat and hard work of the others and are beggars. The tribe has to provide welfare to the Ugaas: money, even their wives as provided to them. The Ugaas class live for conflict and politics. They relish the opportunity to solve conflict as a means to make money.
The vehicle for scoundrels and oppurtunists is the incompatible western system which tries to creates vaccums for them and denies Somalis from creating their own democracy that takes into account the prevailing conditions that exists within our society.5. On tribalism - Tribalism is the vehicle for scoundrels and opportunists. When someone approaches you out of tribal solidarity, your pocket will be worse for it. In times of barwaaqo, the wealthy forget about their tol only to reappear when their interests are threatened.
Tell me walaal when he starts to criticize the west or can ever concede to any positive representation concerning Somali culture or Islam. Before then nothing he says will add to any impartiality.I somehow these Godless Marxists to be more moral than the so called religious class.
True. The likes of Al-Khawarizmi (inventor of Algorithms), Ibn Khaldun etc. all excelled in religious as well as secular sciences. Ibn Khaldun was in fact a judge in a Sharia court and was a faqih in the Maliki madhhab.Religious knowledge is compatible with secular knowledge. There is no need to teach them seperately from one another. Thats a false dischotomy.

Some of you are living in a eurocentric reality. You wear, jeans, pants ,dress shirts,suits and ties yet you don't fret about it, Somehow European dresscode is so normalized its not even called cultural or tradtitional. Our culture is only reduced to the piece of fabric we wear when the conversation shifts towards Arabs. I ask since when does jeans,t-shirts, suits etc become Somali traditional wear?Neither does he see why women have to wear tents and ninja outfits when it is obviously an Arab custom.

I agree that is why i said the knowledge Europe tries to convey is in its epystemology ''Atheist'' and becoming romanticly attached to the English language is a quick way to be introduced to paradigms from Europe.Many people sadly believe this propaganda that religion and scientific advancement are incompatible and they always cite the so-called "dark ages". They do not even understand how absurd it is to superimpose the European experience upon all other civilisation.

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