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Conflicts

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 5:59 am
by The rebel
Salaam everybody,

I was doing some serious thinking (God knows how hard that could be and painful for 3rd world person like my self.lol)

As we all know we always face conflicts in our houses, school, workplace. Each of us got their own individual personal code and values you may or may not share with others around you.

So my question is what happens when your personal code conflicts with society's? How do you resolve the conflict? There are plenty of things society allows that I do not in my own life. A good example of conflict is smoking. I will never purposely poison myself with tobacco or any other substance and from a socialist perspective would ban tobacco. I approach everything with a level of respect to the individual though, and recognize the importance of individual choices in a productive society, so I allow for it within the limits of i won't expose myself to second hand smoke.

Conflict on a more major issue, such as murder: I am not (or have not yet) been capable of killing anything beyond insect or plant (plant for food - I am vegan so I don't eat animals that others kill either, as well a I do not eat any processed foods, foods that involve the use of child labour, foods treated with herbicides/pesticides ,etc). I also do not seek justice if one were to kill. I see the only true judge is yourself and thus the only viable method to treatment of a killer is education allowing the killer to become aware. (this probably is not worded well - lets just say i seek no retribution, feel no anger towards, and see no benfit to punishment - the only exception being people hardwired to kill, in which case imprisonment for life or until we develop effective treatment is necessary for the good of the society)

Back to the question what happens when your personal code conflicts with society's? How do you resolve the conflict?

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 6:14 am
by Gamadid.
Would you educate a mass murderer? also, think about the victim the killer has sent to the grave. The victim has rights upon the capable living who are in a position of maintaining order and peace. If you look at somalia, killing is easy and there is no pressure on the killer at all. They either walk away or his tribe will pay some money to the victim families. Sometimes there is no compensation. Bottom line, if you kill, and you are proven beyond reasonable doubt to be killer, you shall be killed. There is no excuse.

If some of us weren't keeping others in check, the world would be in more chaos than it already is. Mankind saxib, needs a strong hand often to keep them on the right track. Even with so called freedom and uninhibited pleasure seeking in the western hemisphere, some people aren't happy and kill others and themselves.



As for being vegetarian, the plant has a life too and it might feel the torment of death once you uproot it Laughing

To finally answer your question, if my personal code contradicts that of of society, I will abandon mine provided the one of the society is better, if not, and mine is suprior, I will hold on to mine.

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 6:27 am
by The rebel
Hello Gamadid ,

Thanks for passing by here. You totally missed my point. I did not want to discuss my personal codes (though I wouldn't mind to do so lol) but to share each other's personal codes. Yet you did not answer my question Smile

Let me repharase it again : How you deal with, when your personal code conflicts with society's?

Will you try to explain your point and respect others' or like some do curse around and show they hate with out logical explainations?

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 6:32 am
by Gamadid.
If my personal code contradicts that of of society, I will abandon mine provided the one of the society is better, if not, and mine is suprior, I will hold on to mine.

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 7:43 am
by mizz_chief
" I also do not seek justice if one were to kill. I see the only true judge is yourself and thus the only viable method to treatment of a killer is education allowing the killer to become aware"


im sorry but that paragraph was really Laughing

if someone killed another, so u wouldnt send them to prison so atleast they would serve time knwoing what they did was wrong, but you would rather educate a killer and tell him how about you have the easy route by opening your "books" and learn what you did was wrong......

saxiiiiib thats tooo much for me to deal with.... eye for eye if not compensate not monetary ways but other form of punishments will do

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 8:24 am
by The rebel
I am glad that I made you to laugh. But that is my personal code and I don't expect many to agree with me. What is yours?
Or is somalithing that to judge others?


The question was ? How you deal when your personal code or belief conflicts with the society you live?

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 8:52 am
by The-Screw
Life in Prison without the possibillity of Parole will not solve anything, as a matter of fact, the longer a convicted killer spends in prison the more anger and hatred he developes for the outside world and for that reason he will do almost anything to escape so he can kill again. once a killer, always a killer. "an eye for an eye" may sound old fashioned and barbaric but it works, it's been proven over and over again, but it should only be practiced for most extreme cases, an alleged killer must first be given a fair trial and proven guilty in a court of law, unlike what the saudis and other arab countries are doing. convicted killers of women, children and the elderly should recieve the death penalty without any delays, s.ex offenders, rapists, included. you cannot re-educate a killer, it doesn't work like that, a killer will always be a killer.




but on a much lighter note, allow me to answer your question, borrowing a word or two from bon jovi, when the world gets in my face, i say...have a nice day. Very Happy



l8er.

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:31 am
by The rebel
Nice post Screw. Again I believe only God gives the life and he only can take it! Kills are violating the laws doesn't mean that is excuse to do the same wrong!!

We can put them in prisin (being in prison doesn't mean to humilate the person)... We can educate them and when we feel they are good people let them selve the sociaty. Well, that is me again.

I wouldn't kill anything including plants if I could live with only milk... I hate milk Sad.