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Al-Nusra Commander: "The Americans Stand On Our Side" (Fake Interview)

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Re: Al-Nusra Commander: "The Americans Stand On Our Side"

Postby Raganimo » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:30 pm

^The rebels aren't a monolith bro. Some are trained and equipped by the US. Others such as Isis are pretty much believed to be created by the CIA at this point. The rest are either indifferent to US involvement while others (the Islamic groups mostly JN and Ahraar) are vehemently against the US and the gulf Arabs.

What destabilised Syria was Assad's lack of ability and strategic thinking. Remember, this all started as simple protests and people asking for basic rights. Nobody wanted a civil war. The problem is that Assad thought that he could beat the protestors to submission just like his father did in the 80's. Only thing is, the idiot did not take the political changes in the region into consideration. Iraq was not a destabilised country back in the 80's. Assad's Syria was neighbor to a destabilised Iraq, where there was easy access to weapons and no shortage of militant groups. It was a disastrous miscalculation on his part.

In fact, if it wasn't for the formation of ISIS and Western and Russian involvement, Assad would have been toppled years ago. ISIS broke the back of the rebels at a crucial time and began to attack JN, Ahraar, FSA and other minor groups. In fact, up until recently, it did not even engage Assad but was busy attacking rebel stronghold such as Deir Azzoor. There were even many instances where the rebels were forced to simultaneously defend themselves against Assad and ISIS.
What you say on Assad is all true, I agree 100%.

Thing with the rebels like FSA and their ilk, they're trained by the US. You have Syrian exiles who have lobbied the US and some NATO countries to the cause of the opposition.

But on the ground, Jabhat Al-Nusra and Ahrar Al-Sham have been the best fighting forces and a lot of the US-rebel factions have aligned with them naturally.

What about Nusra fighters being hospitalized by the Israelis? It's in the Jerusalem Post and other Israeli papers from 2014 and 2015.
Some factions within the FSA are indeed trained by the US. The US is also constantly encouraging them to attack Nusra and Ahraar (which most of them refuse because it makes zero sense to attack the guys that are fighting alongside you).

Nusra fighters being treated by yahuud could be Israeli propaganda to discredit them in the eyes of the Muslim public. Joulani and co. have a proven track-record and are known (whether you agree with them or not is a totally different topic). Unlike the dubious leadership of ISIS, the leadership of Ahraar and Nusra is known sxb and there is no doubt regarding their beliefs and where they stand.

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Re: Al-Nusra Commander: "The Americans Stand On Our Side"

Postby LeJusticier » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:23 pm

The headchoppers have two choices, surrender or die. There is no third choice.
I can clearly see that Russia has had enough of the duplicity of the USA and its allies and it seems the gloves are off. I pretty sure Russians and Syrian government would soon outclass and capture eastern Aleppo and get rid of the numerous factional headchoppers, the west and Gulf States have been shamefully supporting in Syria. 50% of these headchoppers in Syria are not even Syrian!
How can you despise Siad Barre and support Bashar Al-Assad? :Puhlease:
You need to understand, In Syria there no civil war. It is multi-proxy war in which international, competing interests carry out their battles in Syria.
Asad is defending his country from foreign sponsored headchopper, While Siyad was fighting his own people.


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Re: Al-Nusra Commander: "The Americans Stand On Our Side"

Postby Lion104 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:28 pm

The headchoppers have two choices, surrender or die. There is no third choice.
I can clearly see that Russia has had enough of the duplicity of the USA and its allies and it seems the gloves are off. I pretty sure Russians and Syrian government would soon outclass and capture eastern Aleppo and get rid of the numerous factional headchoppers, the west and Gulf States have been shamefully supporting in Syria. 50% of these headchoppers in Syria are not even Syrian!
How can you despise Siad Barre and support Bashar Al-Assad? :Puhlease:
You need to understand, In Syria there no civil war. It is multi-proxy war in which international, competing interests carry out their battles in Syria.
Asad is defending his country from foreign sponsored headchopper, While Siyad was fighting his own people.


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Assad killed 400,000 of his own people and you telling me he's defending his country, but siad barre was fighting his own people.

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Re: Al-Nusra Commander: "The Americans Stand On Our Side"

Postby Raganimo » Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:10 pm

The headchoppers have two choices, surrender or die. There is no third choice.
I can clearly see that Russia has had enough of the duplicity of the USA and its allies and it seems the gloves are off. I pretty sure Russians and Syrian government would soon outclass and capture eastern Aleppo and get rid of the numerous factional headchoppers, the west and Gulf States have been shamefully supporting in Syria. 50% of these headchoppers in Syria are not even Syrian!
How can you despise Siad Barre and support Bashar Al-Assad? :Puhlease:
You need to understand, In Syria there no civil war. It is multi-proxy war in which international, competing interests carry out their battles in Syria.
Asad is defending his country from foreign sponsored headchopper, While Siyad was fighting his own people.


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Assad's family has been butchering Syrians for more than 40 years. Since 2011 alone Assad has butchered hundreds of thousands of innocent Syrians.

Siad was not anywhere near as bad as Assad, yet you despise the former and celebrate the latter..

The Barre regime used the same arguments that Assad uses: bombing Hargeisa was about punishing "treacherous agents who were operating on behalf of a foreign government (Ethiopia)". They targeted SNM but SNM was hiding amongst the public and was sheltered by the public so they were forced to slaughter innocent isaaqs..

You should try to stay consistent and be more principled...

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Re: Al-Nusra Commander: "The Americans Stand On Our Side"

Postby LeJusticier » Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:13 pm

More than five year of screwing up regime change orchestrated by the USA using a proxy army of 90 different beheaders using citizens as shields, finally is close to come to an end.


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Re: Al-Nusra Commander: "The Americans Stand On Our Side"

Postby LeJusticier » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:35 pm

I realize there are many, many good people who haven't taken a stand against or for Syria, and who are just genuinely confused... and busy supporting their families... and who might tune into, say, Canada's CBC, or like media, to learn what's going on in the world. As when it comes to most foreign issues, our media is sharing a narrative that serves the interests of our governments, not the people of Syria. In other words, they are lying about Syria, and endorsing the lies of others.

For those who want it, a brief overview of the past 5.5 years in Syria (although of course there is far greater historical context to be given, which is imperative reading). In terms of recent events wrongly dubbed the "civil war in Syria" or anything to do with "rebels" in Syria, I share the following simplified overview:

March 2011: Western and Gulf corporate media (and human rights groups with close ties to the US State Dpt and/or George Soros) start reporting of "unarmed protests" being quashed by an "evil dictator'". They produce claim after claim, but never any substantiated evidence.

Meanwhile, what they fail to report is that, in fact, in the early protests throughout Syria, there were well-armed "protesters" who, in Dara'a for one example (the so-called "birthplace" of the so-called "revolution") were gunning down unarmed police and unarmed Syrian soldiers: killing 29 and 52 in the first 2 respective Friday demonstrations...This is based on witness testimony and aside from that ample documentation, including weapons storage rooms at the Omari Mosque in Dara'a.

The early (and subsequent) reports pretend that most Syrians supported these protests (violent and sectarian: "Alawis to the grave, Christians to Beirut" was a common chant heard throughout Syrian cities, thank you Saudi Arabia and Muslim Brotherhood), when in fact many or most Syrians who indeed supported political reforms quickly grew wary of the violence they were seeing in protests around the country, and of how the empty words of protesters did not address real calls for political reforms.

Ignored in these early corporate and Gulf media reports are that the Syrian government, under the leadership of President Assad, did start making reforms (and did so even prior to the March 2011 colour revolution kick-off), and that President Assad himself in mid-2011 stood before an audience at Damascus University calling for national reform, from the people, calling for the people to work together towards Syria's future and to avoid bloodshed.

I'm very aware that Syrians, including those who stand with the Syrian government of President Assad, would say that still more reforms are needed. But at present, this is besides the point (and frankly not the business of non-Syrians): right now, Syrians are most concerned with ending the bloodshed and restoring security and stability, and are working for the future of Syria.

In contrast to the bleating of Western media, lying NGOs and Western talking heads, the war ON Syria was never about human rights, freedom, democracy or even President Assad himself.

It was and continues to be about cutting Syria into pieces, imposing a Western (and Zionist)-friendly puppet government which would cease all Resistance against the most murderous state in the region, Israel, and which would also cease to support Palestine, and would cede Syria's resources (oil, gas...)...among other non-human rights-related issues.

The Syrian people have refused the imposition of a foreign government, the imposition of foreign ideologies (Wahhabism and like extremist ideologies, Imperialism, sectarianism... to name some), and continue to reject Western (and Gulf) intervention.

Every corporate (and even certain "independent") media and Human Rights group which you trust is almost assuredly lying to you on Syria (and related issues):

The BBC, the Guardian, Channel 4, CBC, CNN, NPR, Democracy Now, Real News, Middle East Eye... to name but some of the main news sites (and some of the pro-Palestine sites which lie on Syria).

Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, MSF (Doctors Without Borders), Avaaz, and the Syria-specific ones: the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR), the Syria Campaign, the Aleppo Media Centre, and the so-called White Helmets ... have all either endorsed and propagated lies against Syria, or flat-out lied themselves (inevitably relying on unnamed activists or unverified reports). Most of them also endorse a no-fly-zone in Syria, as per Libya (please look in hindsight at how Western intervention "saved" Libya. Read: destroyed Libya).

The main Western media/human rights groups/State Dpt lies nowadays are a direct response to the progress of the Syrian army and allies in cleansing Aleppo districts of the terrorists who've murdered, maimed, kept hostage and besieged Syrians of Aleppo and its countryside for years.

Western leaders are not happy that their "moderate" terrorists (who violated the September ceasefire from the very start, and over 300 times, most of whom flat-out rejected the ceasefire) no longer have the open flow of weapons and supplies from Turkey, nor the ease of movement, and that they continue to be defeated in many areas of Aleppo.

Thus, be wary of corporate media's many claims regarding Aleppo and the Syrian army/government. And very related, be wary of orchestrated media praise of the so-called "humanitarians", al-Qaeda in Syria, the "White Helmets". All of the major news outlets you trust, including pseudo-independents like Democracy Now, and including pseudo-leftists like Code Pink, are promoting these terrorist-apologists and propagandists as "rescuers", which couldn't be farther from the truth.

These mythical rescuers, who take trophy photos with dead Syrian soldiers, and many of whom themselves carry weapons and war against Syria, are one of the current means of deceiving well-meaning people into supporting Western intervention in Syria: further arming of terrorists, further accusations against the Syrian army and Russia, and calls for a No Fly Zone--which would mean the destruction of Syria--among other evils.

Please, don't be fooled. Put your cognitive dissonance aside: Syrian lives are at stake.

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Re: Al-Nusra Commander: "The Americans Stand On Our Side"

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Re: Al-Nusra Commander: "The Americans Stand On Our Side"

Postby gegiroor » Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:08 pm

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/ji ... hern-hama/

Jihadist rebels overrun two more sites in northern Hama

By Leith Fadel -
29/09/2016

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HAMA, SYRIA (4:30 P.M.) - the jihadist rebels have seized two more sites in the northern Hama countryside after capturing the key town of Qarah earlier today.

Led by Jund Al-Aqsa (Syrian Al-AQaeda franchise) and the Free Syrian Army's "Jaysh Al-Nasr," the jihadist rebels managed to seize two checkpoints located just north of the imperative village of Taybat Al-Ism.

According to Jund Al-Aqsa's official media wing, their forces captured the Al-Raayah and Al-Tal Al-Abyad checkpoints at the northern fringes of Taybat Al-Ism in northern Hama.

A Syrian military source in Hama told Al-Masdar News that the jihadist rebels have already overrun the Syrian Arab Army's defenses near Taybat Al-Ism.

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Re: Al-Nusra Commander: "The Americans Stand On Our Side"

Postby gegiroor » Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:36 pm

What is the Saudi Crown Prince doing in Turkey?
http://www.trtworld.com/mea/what-is-the ... key-196339

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Re: Al-Nusra Commander: "The Americans Stand On Our Side"

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Re: Al-Nusra Commander: "The Americans Stand On Our Side"

Postby grandpakhalif » Sat Oct 01, 2016 8:57 am

Gullible fool, Americans stand with the rawafidite enterprise and Iran.

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Re: Al-Nusra Commander: "The Americans Stand On Our Side"

Postby gegiroor » Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:54 am

Jabhat Fath al Sham (fomerly Jabhat Al-Nusra) in depth interview - BBC Newsnight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU1a61y ... e=youtu.be

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Re: Al-Nusra Commander: "The Americans Stand On Our Side"

Postby gegiroor » Sun Oct 02, 2016 8:15 am

This is another coverage of that BBC interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=924VqzvuVvQ

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Re: Al-Nusra Commander: "The Americans Stand On Our Side"

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