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Whats does "Liberal Muslim" implies?

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Whats does "Liberal Muslim" implies?

Postby TZ Somali » Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:26 am

The tragedy event of september 11 has gave birth to a new term "Liberal Muslim or Moderate MuslimS. I have alwayz wonder what does this term implies?. Any insight? feel free

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Postby LionHeart-112 » Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:44 am

One word: Cowardice!

And Snet is full of "liberal" Muslims who bought into the whole "you are with us or against us" speech by the white Ape.

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Postby Endowed_Man » Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:04 am

TZ, there is no such a word as "Liberal" or "Moderate" muslim. This is nothing but an ingenious act of Divide and Conquor which the west utilizes effectively to create partition between their enemy - in this particular case, the Muslims!

the so-called "moderate" Muslims is one who adheres to Bush and Blair's policies, whereas a normal practising muslim is considered an "extremist"

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Postby LionHeart-112 » Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:06 am

^^Unfortunately many have fallen for their tricks. Just listen to the likes of Globe and Dhuusa, and i swear you will think they are part of the bush cabinet. Saddening, aint it?

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Postby TZ Somali » Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:22 pm

Lion...do u think we hav got some of this liberal muslim in the forum...if so do u mind if yah name them? for the sake of members

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Postby SoMaLiSiZz » Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:27 pm

[quote="Endowed_Man"]TZ, there is no such a word as "Liberal" or "Moderate" muslim. This is nothing but an ingenious act of Divide and Conquor which the west utilizes effectively to create partition between their enemy - in this particular case, the Muslims!

the so-called "moderate" Muslims is one who adheres to Bush and Blair's policies, whereas a normal practising muslim is considered an "extremist"[/quote]


Yup am with you on that Arrow

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Postby Demure » Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:13 pm

There's no such thing as liberal muslims as Endowed man so eloquently put, even though a lot of Arabs claim so in order to be accepted by the westerners.

I was listening to Bush give a speech in Mongolia this morning, and
he was saying something along the lines; he was glad the mongols were democratic and not affected by those extremist Islamists who are in the way of freedom....blah blah blah... I think for repeating it so often he
actually believes his own propaganda. Let alone the poeple that didn't know any better, those alleged liberal muslims included.

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Postby The Arabman » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:22 pm

"I have alwayz wonder what does this term implies?. Any insight?"

The term implies Muslims who are influenceable, i.e. Muslims who cannot assert themselves.

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Postby QansaGabeyle » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:38 pm

It is another name for munaafiqs. There is a whole bunch of them on this site. Basra is one of them. Laughing

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Postby dhuusa_deer » Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:26 pm

TZ,

Liberal Muslim is some1 who uses his conscience, has empathy, prefers peace and amity over enmity and violence, who doesn't support suicide bombings, believes rule of law and democracy, trusts science, reasoning and facts as sufficient to reach decisions...basically almost like your typical run-of-the-mill secular Westerner

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Postby dhuusa_deer » Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:34 pm

[quote="Demure"] I was listening to Bush give a speech in Mongolia this morning, and
he was saying something along the lines; he was glad the mongols were democratic and not affected by those extremist Islamists who are in the way of freedom....blah blah blah... [/quote]

Demure: I wonder if you are under any illusions as to what 'extremist Islamists' represent? Do you agree with the Taliban and Wahabists? Most if not all call them extremist islamists.

Just becuz you dislike the US government and Bush doesn't mean everything they say is untrue. Would you disagree with Kim, leader of N. Korea, if he tomorrow got on TV and said democracy and rule of law are good? Even though you may suspect him of dishonesty and ultrior motives given his track record of communism and dictorialsm. He is right.

Separate your emotions from your decisions. That seems one of the muslim world's achille's heel.

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Postby TZ Somali » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:07 am

is amazing to see how many muslim have prescribe to this name, every muslim leaders around the world testify to this name...

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Postby The rebel » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:26 am

Name wouldn't bother me a bit. But I am wondering why they apologizing what they have done nor there is solid facts that Muslim are whom done it!!!

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Postby TZ Somali » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:36 am

[quote="The rebel"]Name wouldn't bother me a bit. But I am wondering why they apologizing what they have done nor there is solid facts that Muslim are whom done it!!![/quote]


sxb you see the state of today international politics and world economy is controlled by the western power this is so compelling enough thus makes muslims leaders to incline and accept to such allegation or crime beyond the of their involvement...

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Postby The rebel » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:39 am

Too much generizing. Somali thing eh? Embarassed Embarassed


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