Saudi's visit Ethiopian Damn - Egypt incensed Threatening War

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Egypt-Gulf relations tested by Saudi visit to Ethiopia dam

Egyptian media lashed out at Saudi Arabia over a high-level Saudi delegation visit to the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam (GERD) during a short trip to Ethiopia on Friday. Experts said the decision to visit the GERD was an act of revenge against Egypt that could deepen tensions between the two countries.

Ahmed al-Khateeb, a senior adviser at the Saudi royal court and board chairman of the Saudi Fund for Development (SFD), visited the site and met Ethiopia's Prime Minister Hailemariam Desalegn and other officials to discuss GERD’s construction project.

Khateeb’s trip came after the Saudi agriculture minister visited Ethiopia last week, making it the second visit by a Saudi official to Addis Ababa in less than a week.

'You will soon hear that we have the capacity to intervene in the Gulf region's affairs and provide support for the royals who oppose current Saudi policies'

- Tarek Fahmy, Egyptian professor

On Saturday, Egyptian news commentator Mohamed Ali Khayr called on Riyadh to "review its policies before it can only blame itself for what ensues".

"Egypt is not obliged to continue to contain its reactions towards Saudi Arabia... any interference [by Saudi Arabia] in the GERD project implies a direct threat to Egypt’s national security," he said on Egyptian TV.

Khayr went as far as accusing Saudi policy makers of being "amateurs" that have caused bilateral relations between the two countries to completely break down as a result of this visit.

On Saturday, Ahmed Moussa, another journalist, threatened Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states that if they were to invest in Ethiopia, their investment would be lost in the Nile.

Moussa continued to condemn the visit over his talk show on Sada al-Balad, an Egyptian satellite TV channel.

"The GERD will not last forever, a volcano might erupt at any moment. So for those looking to invest billions [of dollars] in this project, your money might as well be going to waste," said Moussa.

Fahmy warned Saudi Arabia that Egypt’s patience is waning and that Cairo will no longer accept actions that threaten its national security.

"Egypt has many cards to pressure Saudi Arabia, which we have yet to use," Fahmy said.

However, he added that Cairo wanted to continue its friendly relations with its "siblings in the Gulf".

Meanwhile, Egyptian political science professor Hassan Nafaa told Daily News Egypt on Sunday that the visit was an indirect message from Saudi Arabia that it could align itself with anyone if Egypt does not comply with Saudi foreign policy.

Nafaa said the visit will likely increase tensions in Saudi-Egyptian relations, saying that Cairo would not be tolerating Saudi’s implicit support for the GERD.

Qatari-Egyptian relations shaken

As Egypt’s alliance with Saudi Arabia continues to deteriorate, bilateral relations with Qatar have also been tested in a new series of obstacles.

Tensions grew after a Qatari national wrote on Twitter that Qatar will no longer be issuing work permits for Egyptians.

"Qatar has been extremely patient in regard to Egypt’s 'dirty' policies. It is now time for payback," he added in the tweet.

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@Gurey

Remember that discussion about the new Sub marines Egypt was buying from the German's and I argued it will be to wage war against the Saudi's ? and you were in opposition? there you have it sxb!

The lines have been drawn in this Hybrid war fare China-Turkey-Saudi-Qatar-Ethiopia-Kenya vs America-UAE-Egypt-Eritrea

This is the best chance for Somalia to get it head out of the water while all these major powers quarrel with each other, lots of attention is being turned towards the Horn of Africa, the Chinese have just sent a fleet of Warships to the Gulf of Aden.

[sahal80]

The lines have been drawn in this Hybrid war fare China-Turkey-Saudi-Qatar-Ethiopia-Kenya vs America-UAE-Egypt-Eritrea

[theyuusuf143]

We Somalis should side with Ethiopia on this. At least we are getting cheap electricity from Ethiopia, but we are getting nothing valuable from Egypt. At the same time I don't want this tension to end for ever. Ethiopia without strong enemies is the worst thing that can happen to the Somalis. Egypt vs Ethiopia water conflict is good for the Somalis, it gives us sense of security and we can extract some profit from both sides. I mean as long as Egypt hates Ethiopia we are safe from Ethiopia, we play the Muslim Arab card if we wish, or play the horn African card when we are protesting again Egypt.

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We Somalis should side with Ethiopia on this. At least we are getting cheap electricity from Ethiopia, but we are getting nothing valuable from Egypt..

For the first time in our history both the Kenyan's and Ethiopian's are on our side due to the rapidly changing geopolitics in the region and powerful players that are hell bent on death, destruction and destabilisation in any country seeking development from China or Turkey.

This shifting alliance is bad news for Somaliland because she cornered herself on both sides, the destructive forces of UAE and Ethiopia that's pissed of about this, the Turks are also making their presence felt in Somaliland if you follow the TurkeyInSomalia twitter account.

The Saudi ban was meant for you, it didn't affect Mogadishu much because we are exporting to other countries and the Saudi's don't make up the bulk of it, the UAE and the Saudi's fell out over religious matters (Saudi's changed their stance against Ikhwani movements) and over SISI.

Their is no coincidence vaccine crap story here, this is geopolitics, you guys either toe the line with the China-Qatar-Turkey-Saudi-Ethiopia-Kenya axis or you remain in the UAE useless Anti development camp, there is no choice here because we are both pawns here and pawns have no choice in this, the consequences of those choices will be felt hard, the livestock ban was the first shots fired.

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The lines have been drawn in this Hybrid war fare China-Turkey-Saudi-Qatar-Ethiopia-Kenya vs America-UAE-Egypt-Eritrea

Egypt is going to be importing it's oil from Iran now, the German's are selling them submarines, there first ever, they are being trained on how to use them, and they will be deployed in the red sea, the rafidah will now have even better access to Yemen.

The policies of these people is so destructive, so short sighted, not only did they turn what was an Arab Persian war into a sectarian Arab vs Arab war were no Persian's are being killed, but now the battle is moving between Sunni Vs Sunni as well

This is what happens when a royal inbred and a desert dwelling Egyptian Bedouin meet each other. this is their punishment for removing the Muslim brotherhood from Egypt whom actually took their side in everything, 20 billion's wasting on al Sisi for absolutely nothing, imagine what that money could have done for them and how far it would have gone if they were smart enough.

[sahal80]

The lines have been drawn in this Hybrid war fare China-Turkey-Saudi-Qatar-Ethiopia-Kenya vs America-UAE-Egypt-Eritrea

Egypt is going to be importing it's oil from Iran now, the German's are selling them submarines, there first ever, they are being trained on how to use them, and they will be deployed in the red sea, the rafidah will now have even better access to Yemen.

The policies of these people is so destructive, so short sighted, not only did they turn what was an Arab Persian war into a sectarian Arab vs Arab war were no Persian's are being killed, but now the battle is moving between Sunni Vs Sunni as well

This is what happens when a royal inbred and a desert dwelling Egyptian Bedouin meet each other. this is their punishment for removing the Muslim brotherhood from Egypt whom actually took their side in everything, 20 billion's wasting on al Sisi for absolutely nothing, imagine what that money could have done for them and how far it would have gone if they were smart enough.

saxibow your posts are rich of information indead. thank you.

[TeeriReturns]

The lines have been drawn in this Hybrid war fare China-Turkey-Saudi-Qatar-Ethiopia-Kenya vs America-UAE-Egypt-Eritrea

poltiics is like a prostitute, it will chnage loyaklty constantly,

UAE, Saudis and turks are Allies against syrian, iran, iraqi shia and russsia on that front, america keeps changing alliances in middle east but is friends to the arabs that sell her oil because of the petrodollar agreement that has kept saudis, qatris, uae in power for last 40 years since nixon/Ford agreement to buy oil in dolar to give the us dollar strength

i am interested in what trump will do or what his policy will be towards eriteria,Egypt -we know what it is towards israel, but more interested also his policy towards Russia, china and iran/the fat arab boys and even towards the EU and UK. i am gona wait 6 months after the fuhrer gets into office to see what his policies are and most important how the neo cons/current supporters of obama policy react and this includes the media.

there is a huge split between the Americans in what polices to adopt since none of their boys or girls won the presidency, trump is a bull in a china shop, no one really knows how he will react or how the establishment will react top his polices, and trump breaking the never cross line of never pissing off china with the two chinas? dude is unpredictable but he is also a strong stubborn headed successful man who literally believes he is not answerable to anyone, will he push the limits of the elite in washington? will there be another Kennedy type assassination (Kennedy was strong minded on money being back by hard assets/silver, wanted to break up the CIA after they planned cuban invasion with out his permission).

wait and see lads, wait and see.

[Museyusuf]

Saudis are playing with fire. They are starting war with their neighbors.
Some one tell these guys they are not made for war. Just wear your long thobe and eat your food.
Bunch of softies

[learnmore1]

I think Egypt is being a bit too paranoid. We've already said this dam will not affect there water supply so I don't understand where this drama is coming from...
I'd rather have stronger relations with Egypt though.

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@Gurey

Remember that discussion about the new Sub marines Egypt was buying from the German's and I argued it will be to wage war against the Saudi's ? and you were in opposition? there you have it sxb!

The lines have been drawn in this Hybrid war fare China-Turkey-Saudi-Qatar-Ethiopia-Kenya vs America-UAE-Egypt-Eritrea

This is the best chance for Somalia to get it head out of the water while all these major powers quarrel with each other, lots of attention is being turned towards the Horn of Africa, the Chinese have just sent a fleet of Warships to the Gulf of Aden.

Egypt fighting a war with Saudi? Egypt has a currency and budget crisis... Saudi is bogged down in Yemen

[Musa26]

smooths political radar is never right. did this man just say china, turkey and the saudis are in some axis against the US

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Egypt fighting a war with Saudi? Egypt has a currency and budget crisis... Saudi is bogged down in Yemen

The currency and budget crisis were brought about by the Saudi's whom cut the funding and the oil shipments, because SISI didn't want to bend down.

This can be viewed as an act of war by itself, for the first time ever in their history, they are buying submarines and a few of them to station them in the red sea, why? the only conclusion you can draw is that it's either against Israel (there best buddies) or the Saudi's (the former buddies that has embroiled them into a currency/oil crisis)

You take your pick which it is, but it's very obvious, the visit to the Dam should clear up all illusions, the current Saudi prince is Pro Ikhwani, Egyptian pilots are helping Assad fight the opposition as reported by Israeli intelligence, why would SISI spend 100 of millions at a time of dire economic crisis were his people struggling to buy sugar in the supermarkets and medicines are scarce, on Submarines they never considered before?

It's not hard to connect the two, they are now buying their oil from Iran, those submarines are there to take out Saudi oil tankers or at least make them think twice about further economic provocation as this current visit and investments in Ethiopia particularly the nile damn.

smooths political radar is never right. did this man just say china, turkey and the saudis are in some axis against the US

The context here is the Horn of Africa, there are no permanent friends in this business just interest, with regards to the Horn of Africa yes those are all allied, the order is important, it's China-Turkey-Ethiopia-Kenya-Saudi, the first two are the biggest investors in the region and the following two the biggest recipients of that aid, the Saudi's have just jumped on board.

The Chinese it's all about their silk road in the Horn, the Turks originally it was to keep the Iranian's out and invest, the American's hate investments especially in Africa and even more so when the Chinese are involved hence their proactive stance, because they believe the resources are theirs, so they will do anything to sabotage as they had always been doing in that region.

Then you have the UAE and it's naval facilities in Eritrea, this will automatically put her at odds with Ethiopia and her investor China on top of this she is training the rebels to fight the TPLF this is no secret, it's also no secret the UAE is also directly at war with Turkey in Somalia and great friends with Egypt whom also hate the Turks and Ethiopia, it's an alliance of convenience.

The USA withdrew from Ethiopia, their drone bases are now in Djibouti and rumours undercover ones in Somalia, she also has a massive base in UAE along with the French, it's not hard to connect the dots here, the Saudi is not the one of old that just gave 20 billion to SISI as a gift, that leader died, they entered a new age.

[grandpakhalif]

Somalia's interest lies in the Egypt-Eritrea axis, why? Because Ethiopia damming the nile affectively gives her complete control over power and water supplies in the horn. This sets a bad precedent going forward as we all know Somalia's two main rivers originate from Ethiopia. We have already seen major changes in the Shabelle river, with sudden flooding and drying of the river beds.

In this case our very own food supply is threatened and Ethiopia has the ability to create and trigger major food crisis at her will. This is much worst than even the occupation of Xamar as it can threaten our very delicate ecosystems which is already weakened due to climate change.

So considering all these factors we should ally with Egypt and support her war against Ethiopian Saudi China axis.

[FAH1223]

Somalia's interest lies in the Egypt-Eritrea axis, why? Because Ethiopia damming the nile affectively gives her complete control over power and water supplies in the horn. This sets a bad precedent going forward as we all know Somalia's two main rivers originate from Ethiopia. We have already seen major changes in the Shabelle river, with sudden flooding and drying of the river beds.

In this case our very own food supply is threatened and Ethiopia has the ability to create and trigger major food crisis at her will. This is much worst than even the occupation of Xamar as it can threaten our very delicate ecosystems which is already weakened due to climate change.

So considering all these factors we should ally with Egypt and support her war against Ethiopian Saudi China axis.

But China is helping development projects. So is Turkey in Somalia.

Smooth is right about one thing. The IMF/World Bank system isn't doing Somalia any favors and isn't helping with comprehensive development.

The Beijing Consensus is much more attractive.